News: Five slam dunks and head scratchers from the draft

There are some on the media and so called draft experts that disagree with the Williams pick and said he is not strong enough to play in the NFL. They said that the Cowboys reached. I call them idiots. It was a great pick.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Slam dunk....LVE, Williams....Gallup maybe, need to see him.

Slammed and Drunk...the FO for the rest of the draft. :muttley:
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First 2 picks were slam dunks, more question marks as the draft went on - pretty much how it's supposed to work. Later round guys come with risks.

The problem is when your first 2 are question marks. I think Dallas avoided that this year.
 
Bigdog said:
There are some on the media and so called draft experts that disagree with the Williams pick and said he is not strong enough to play in the NFL. They said that the Cowboys reached. I call them idiots. It was a great pick.
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And he will get much stronger
The difference in yr one and two is amazing with these guys
 
conner01 said:
And he will get much stronger
The difference in yr one and two is amazing with these guys
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Yup and I think he has great character and just wants to get better. He has that desire to be he best. A lot of people say that but don't want to put in the work. He does for all indication.
 
Bigdog said:
Yup and I think he has great character and just wants to get better. He has that desire to be he best. A lot of people say that but don't want to put in the work. He does for all indication.
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That’s the difference is good players and great players
An avg athlete can make in the nfl if they work hard enough
They hardest thing to judge on a player is their desire to be the best they can be but I think he has it
 
conner01 said:
That’s the difference is good players and great players
An avg athlete can make in the nfl if they work hard enough
They hardest thing to judge on a player is their desire to be the best they can be but I think he has it
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Emmitt..wasn’t the biggest wasn’t the fastest wasn’t the strongest....however he had the biggest strongest heart that desired to be the best...and he was...still is...
 
I feel bad for Davenport. His talent isn't the issue, it's Nola mortgaging the future for him.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Emmitt..wasn’t the biggest wasn’t the fastest wasn’t the strongest....however he had the biggest strongest heart that desired to be the best...and he was...still is...
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Jerry Rice and Tom Brady comes to mind also.
 
I liked the 2nd round pick much more than the first. Hopefully they both work out.
 
Hard to blame any team for what they do in rounds 5-7 as long as it's not something radical. After the 4th, you could argue the 3rd, it's basically digging for gold, trying to get good guys on the practice squad you can actually use for practice, and hoping you get at least a couple depth pieces.

Hard to give them credit, either. Fans would have loved to see a couple DTs in rounds 5 to 7 but like most in that range they'll never start and most won't contribute on game day. So why give them credit?

Late rounds are just teams taking the guys they like and then hoping. I think the modern draft culture makes people place more significance on these later guys than is even remotely warranted. Just focus on how many short term/long term starters/contributors they got.

I see 3+: week 1 starters at LG and MLB, week 1 contributor at WR, week 1 contributor at TE but it won't show up much on the stat sheet. After that, I think you're hoping and playing wait and see, but these early guys I can apply expectations and goals to with some reasonable accuracy. I feel really good about the draft.

Before anyone gets in a tizzy, I know there are some of you who legitimately knew enough prospects to have strong feelings about the later rounds, and I don't diminish that, but honestly surely you've seen enough drafts to know it's a crap shoot to a degree after round 4
 
DasSchnitzel said:
Hard to blame any team for what they do in rounds 5-7 as long as it's not something radical. After the 4th, you could argue the 3rd, it's basically digging for gold, trying to get good guys on the practice squad you can actually use for practice, and hoping you get at least a couple depth pieces.

Hard to give them credit, either. Fans would have loved to see a couple DTs in rounds 5 to 7 but like most in that range they'll never start and most won't contribute on game day. So why give them credit?

Late rounds are just teams taking the guys they like and then hoping. I think the modern draft culture makes people place more significance on these later guys than is even remotely warranted. Just focus on how many short term/long term starters/contributors they got.

I see 3+: week 1 starters at LG and MLB, week 1 contributor at WR, week 1 contributor at TE but it won't show up much on the stat sheet. After that, I think you're hoping and playing wait and see, but these early guys I can apply expectations and goals to with some reasonable accuracy. I feel really good about the draft.

Before anyone gets in a tizzy, I know there are some of you who legitimately knew enough prospects to have strong feelings about the later rounds, and I don't diminish that, but honestly surely you've seen enough drafts to know it's a crap shoot to a degree after round 4
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Yes this is logical thinking....and probably mostly true, hit on a gem in the late rounds...but sometimes a team with holes to fill need to count on these late round picks...

Also...

Back when there where 12 rounds....the thinking was in rounds 1 through 6 you got your good players, core players and expected them to contribute. Then in rounds 7 through 12 you were lucky to find and gems...remember Larry Brown was a 12th round draft pick....

So fast forward to the 7 round draft, and all of a sudden picks 4 to 7 are scrubs?
They wasted the last few picks on offense when they should have went defense if the picks don’t matter, then you take a chance where you need players. If one lols as those as throw away picks.

I did not like rounds 4 to 7. As I think they could have down better. But hope I am wrong and they all work out, even the ones on the PS.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Yes this is logical thinking....and probably mostly true, hit on a gem in the late rounds...but sometimes a team with holes to fill need to count on these late round picks...

Also...

Back when there where 12 rounds....the thinking was in rounds 1 through 6 you got your good players, core players and expected them to contribute. Then in rounds 7 through 12 you were lucky to find and gems...remember Larry Brown was a 12th round draft pick....

So fast forward to the 7 round draft, and all of a sudden picks 4 to 7 are scrubs?
They wasted the last few picks on offense when they should have went defense if the picks don’t matter, then you take a chance where you need players. If one lols as those as throw away picks.

I did not like rounds 4 to 7. As I think they could have down better. But hope I am wrong and they all work out, even the ones on the PS.
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Yeah, you're not wrong. And more defense would have been nice. I don't disagree. Still, that's just an opinion, and they drafted using their opinion, and theirs is much more informed than mine or, probably, yours.

Did you ever see the Bob Ross painting show? Sometimes he'd be going along and suddenly paint something that really clashed and it's funny because you didn't realize how into it you were getting but suddenly you're thinking "that ruined it".

Then he keeps painting and suddenly that blob of paint makes sense because he was working with a plan and you didn't know the plan or what it was built on. I think it's like this with the late rounds of the draft.

Personally though, I've gotten to where I trust this FO on the draft. They might do a lot of things poorly but I don't think drafting is one. Maybe that's why I'm so inclined to say "whatever happens, happens. They're getting their guys".
 
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