News: Floor To Ceiling: The Shifting Draft Strategy Of The Dallas Cowboys

[gimmesix]

The effectiveness of the past two drafts and the high number of legitimate quality starters in the others...still gives me confidence. We'll see if Escobar produces when not paired with a Witten.

Williams has at least been a starter.

Well, the effectiveness is a product of who's available so a lot is going to depend on that. Take the 2013 draft as an example again. Dallas traded down from my understanding because it had three OL available and none were considered a real good value for pick 18. The hope there was that either Justin Pugh, Kyle Long or Travis Frederick would make it to pick 31.

We could have ended up with Pugh instead and your confidence might not be quite as high.

The draft process identifies players who may be worth a certain pick, but which player you get is dependent on what the teams before you choose to do. I don't have confidence in that because you are essentially taking what you can get within that range, but I do have hope that right player within that range was the one that fell to Dallas.

Charlton, for example, could be better than McKinley, could be better than Barnett, could be better than Allen, could be better than Harris, but it won't because Dallas identified him as being better. It will be because Dallas was fortunate that other teams ahead of them didn't take him instead of Barnett, Allen, Harris and McKinley.

Some will say that shows how great Dallas is at drafting, but it really doesn't. It just shows that they rightly identified him as a player worth taking in that range and were fortunate none of those others who they had as higher values were.

 

[CCBoy]

Well, the effectiveness is a product of who's available so a lot is going to depend on that. Take the 2013 draft as an example again. Dallas traded down from my understanding because it had three OL available and none were considered a real good value for pick 18. The hope there was that either Justin Pugh, Kyle Long or Travis Frederick would make it to pick 31.

We could have ended up with Pugh instead and your confidence might not be quite as high.

The draft process identifies players who may be worth a certain pick, but which player you get is dependent on what the teams before you choose to do. I don't have confidence in that because you are essentially taking what you can get within that range, but I do have hope that right player within that range was the one that fell to Dallas.

Charlton, for example, could be better than McKinley, could be better than Barnett, could be better than Allen, could be better than Harris, but it won't because Dallas identified him as being better. It will be because Dallas was fortunate that other teams ahead of them didn't take him instead of Barnett, Allen, Harris and McKinley.

Some will say that shows how great Dallas is at drafting, but it really doesn't. It just shows that they rightly identified him as a player worth taking in that range and were fortunate none of those others who they had as higher values were.

Those are valid considerations...but a not comparison to the board and actual evaluations held by Dallas. Still variables, that would affect. I'm not shaken about potential alone. There was still a valid and functional selection group in effect.

 

[gimmesix]

Well, the effectiveness is a product of who's available so a lot is going to depend on that. Take the 2013 draft as an example again. Dallas traded down from my understanding because it had three OL available and none were considered a real good value for pick 18. The hope there was that either Justin Pugh, Kyle Long or Travis Frederick would make it to pick 31.

We could have ended up with Pugh instead and your confidence might not be quite as high.

The draft process identifies players who may be worth a certain pick, but which player you get is dependent on what the teams before you choose to do. I don't have confidence in that because you are essentially taking what you can get within that range, but I do have hope that right player within that range was the one that fell to Dallas.

Charlton, for example, could be better than McKinley, could be better than Barnett, could be better than Allen, could be better than Harris, but it won't because Dallas identified him as being better. It will be because Dallas was fortunate that other teams ahead of them didn't take him instead of Barnett, Allen, Harris and McKinley.

Some will say that shows how great Dallas is at drafting, but it really doesn't. It just shows that they rightly identified him as a player worth taking in that range and were fortunate none of those others who they had as higher values were.

Byron Jones might be a good example of the opposite of good fortune for Dallas. I think Jones is a solid player, but if Marcus Peters had made it to our pick, I'm sure that we would have taken him instead. That's the luck side of it. It was the hand we were dealt.

The draft process side of it was maybe the scouts should have identified Landon Collins as a better secondary pick. If he had been at the top of that tier or in the tier above Jones, then possibly we would have taken him ... although we might have taken Jones because of the fact that he could be a corner or a safety if needed while Collins was strictly a safety. If so, that gets into the argument of need vs. value.

 

[LocimusPrime]

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