Flos replacement?... ND OT Ryan Harris

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I REPEAT:
DO
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RYAN HARRIS.
he makes a industrial vacume look weak compared to his suckiness.
 

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burmafrd;1426991 said:
McQ was not rated highly because he had only played two years. He did not play football in High School, I think. I do recall that he had played very little compared to his brother who was drafted in the third rd by Raiders. His TWIN brother. He played a lot at LT in the preseason games when the Hotel tweaked his leg and was out. He garnered so much good press from scouts that BP was not able to put him on the practice squad as he would have been snapped up right away. THAT is why he was on the roster for the full year. BP and Sparano even went to far as to state that if he had to play at LT that year he would be ok. All indications are that he has the talent; he just needs the reps and the experience.

Burm, don't you know that because McQ was drafted in the late rounds that it's impossible for him to EVER be a good football player? ONLY the early rounds produce good players. The later rounds only produce pure garbage. Why bother even having a draft go past the 3rd round?

/sarcasm
 

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People will always strain to find the "next big thing" at need positions - whether it makes sense or not. I'm not saying McQ can't be a good player... only an idiot would say that at this point, seeing as we don't know what he's got. But I have very guarded expectations. The guy has to overcome some things before he's even to spot-starting material.
 

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ENGCowboy;1426903 said:
With R. Harris and J. Staley were not talking 1st round maybe not even 2nd im not quite sure where they are projected.

Staley is a bona-fied 1st round pick
 

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having 2 projects at OT isn't a bad thing, Columbo is on a short-deal, and who knows how long his knee is going to hold up
 

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There is no reason to think Colombo's knee is any concern. It was not an injury that leaves a permanent weakness. Its not like a back injury. There is no reason to use a high choice on a tackle. If there is a good one in the second- MAYBE. BUT STAY AWAY FROM RYAN HARRIS!!!!
 

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fortdick;1426883 said:
As far as McQ, I have to wonder if you can really expect to have a good LT from a 6th round draft pick. He may have the size and strength, but I have to believe something was lacking for him to be a late day 2 pick. I am also not so confident he will be abale to replace Flo. As a project, he is a great one, but the odds are against him. Maybe he will, but I wouldn't bet the farm.

Have you ever heard of Tom Brady? 199th pick, 6th round.
 

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ENGCowboy;1426903 said:
Harris and Staley have the speed and agility just lack a bit of size, a proffesional such as Joe Juresak sould be quite capable of adding size without losing speed/agility.


I'm pretty sure the training staff at those major programs have their version of Joe Juresak as well...

just a hunch!
 

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smarta5150;1427204 said:
Have you ever heard of Tom Brady? 199th pick, 6th round.

So you are saying that McQ will be as good a LT as Brady is a QB? All I am saying is that I am not convinced that the guy will be the answer. Do I hope so? Yes. Would I refuse to pick a OT in the draft because he is there? No.

Can someone tell me, other than Parcells glowing praise for McQ, what makes everyone think he is the answer if Flo goes down? The guy was borderline practice squad material when he arrived. He was good enough in camp to make it a risk to put him on the PS, but that doesn't punch his ticket to Canton.

Just because the Pats got lucky with a 6th round pick doesn;t mean all 6th round picks are good. Would you be for trading our #22 for anyone else's 6th round pick?
 

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Considering the number of teams that expressed interest in McQ, he has to be considered as at least starting talent at LT. For a late rd pick, that is pretty good!!
 

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burmafrd;1427924 said:
Considering the number of teams that expressed interest in McQ, he has to be considered as at least starting talent at LT. For a late rd pick, that is pretty good!!

I am not arguing that McQ doesn''t have potential. I am saying that that is all it is right now, potential.

We have gonethru many years of question marks at both left and right tackle. I hope McQ turns into a pro bowl player, but I would not hold my breath.

My orignal comment was that I agreed with another poster that OT was a position we should be concerned about in the coming draft. I don't feel we are set at OT, WR, or ILB. We need to look to improve at these, that is all.

Everyone harps about FS, but I think that losing Flo, or Ayodele, or Glenn/Ownes would be a bigger problem. We need to look for a replacemnt for Flo, and I am not convinced it is McQ.
 

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You cannot stock up at all positions; there are just so many spots on the roster. And unless you want someone just like McQ, a late rd pick, then you have to draft on the first day. EVEN then you are not assured of getting someone better then McQ. The boys have had him for full year; they know better then anyone else what they have.
 

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fortdick;1428022 said:
I am not arguing that McQ doesn''t have potential. I am saying that that is all it is right now, potential.

aren't rookies just potential too?
 

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fortdick;1427910 said:
So you are saying that McQ will be as good a LT as Brady is a QB? All I am saying is that I am not convinced that the guy will be the answer. Do I hope so? Yes. Would I refuse to pick a OT in the draft because he is there? No.

Can someone tell me, other than Parcells glowing praise for McQ, what makes everyone think he is the answer if Flo goes down? The guy was borderline practice squad material when he arrived. He was good enough in camp to make it a risk to put him on the PS, but that doesn't punch his ticket to Canton.

Just because the Pats got lucky with a 6th round pick doesn;t mean all 6th round picks are good. Would you be for trading our #22 for anyone else's 6th round pick?

What I am saying is what round you are drafted does not limit your talents or potential for one day being a game day starter.

I love how people wanna replace unproven players with OTHER unproven players.

Its sick how quickly some of you want to make changes.

There is this thing called development, you may have heard of it.

Not every player can come into the league a dominate it... it could take years to strengthen themselves, practice the skills, and learn the systems.

Give these guys (McQ, Watkins, JJ, our DLine, etc.) some time.
 

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smarta5150;1428092 said:
I love how people wanna replace unproven players with OTHER unproven players.

I don't get it either

but at least it beats replacing someone w/ some random, unnamed person
 

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Considering the losuy job the Cowboys have done 'speculating' with regard to the offensive line, I think they're due for a 'slam dunk' prospect.

The mistakes they've made recently have proved very costly.

For every Jacob Rogers, they have to pay big money for a Marc Colombo to man that spot.

For every Stephen Peterman, they have to pay big money for Leonard Davis to man that spot.

For every Al Johnson, they have to pay big money for Andre Gurode to man that spot.

I would like to see a high draft pick invested in a more reliable prospect than waiting for someone to develop.

It still bothers me that this team could have drafted Marcus McNeil last year and had a tackle position set for the next 10 years. Instead they drafted a backup TE who had a minimal impact.

:mad:
 

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stasheroo;1428118 said:
For every Jacob Rogers, they have to pay big money for a Marc Colombo to man that spot.

Columbo doesn't cost us much at all

stash said:
I would like to see a high draft pick invested in a more reliable prospect than waiting for someone to develop.

me too, I would like to see the Cowboys develop Pat McQuistan, Joe Berger, Corey Proctor

and I agree, we're due
 

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fortdick;1427910 said:
He was good enough in camp to make it a risk to put him on the PS, but that doesn't punch his ticket to Canton.

Hey, BP Wannabe, who said anything about Canton? Are you expecting a HOF out of this replacement you suggest we draft? If so, I hope you're prepared for disappointment.


fortdick;1428022 said:
I am not arguing that McQ doesn''t have potential. I am saying that that is all it is right now, potential.

Just potential, huh? And what would an OT we draft in the top three rounds of the draft be? Oh right... that would be potential. So if we already have that OT with potential on the roster, why not - Oh I dunno - see if THAT guy's potential leads to production?

You don't develop a guy for one freakin' season then give up on him. You end up being the raiders or cardinals when you do that.


Bob Sacamano;1428085 said:
aren't rookies just potential too?

:hammer:

smarta5150;1428092 said:
What I am saying is what round you are drafted does not limit your talents or potential for one day being a game day starter.

I love how people wanna replace unproven players with OTHER unproven players.

Its sick how quickly some of you want to make changes.

There is this thing called development, you may have heard of it.

Not every player can come into the league a dominate it... it could take years to strengthen themselves, practice the skills, and learn the systems.

Give these guys (McQ, Watkins, JJ, our DLine, etc.) some time.


:hammer: except for the JJ part. He's been around 3 years so he doesn't really fit the description of someone that needs development. Not to mention RB is the position in football that requires the LEAST amount of development (as far as running the football goes).
 
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