Food for Thought

[IceBowler]

It's funny to hear many of Y'all talking abut how Garrett must have "showed some fire this week" and the players responded." That belief flies in the face of what Troy said about Garrett - that he NEVER changes, is the most constant person he's ever known.

I believe this has been a lack of player pride, execution and urgency all along. Does coaching enter into this? Of course it does but, these guys are supposed to be pros and getting players up for a game is over-rated at this level.

Now, I am in favor of moving on from JG - it's just time and no amount of success from here on out should alter that. But, you have to look at what NFL coaches have to deal with:

• Union Labor with GUARANTEED money
• A total "Me First" attitude that's been proliferated since most of them were in Jr. High School
• A game that seemingly changes in scope from year to year
• Less than competent officiating on a League-wide basis

And then, of course, in Dallas, you add in Jerry Jones.

All I'm saying is that these players took it upon themselves to perform with pride in themselves. They executed - made tackles - the OL was brutal - Zeke ran HARD - more Man coverage was played over that soft zone crap we seem to love.

Just wondering just how much difference coaching's gonna make in the long run when players decide not to play and their payday's guaranteed. Sure, you can sit them but the depth isn't there like the old days - plus the cap doesn't play well with Owners watching their "investments" riding the pine ...

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

I agree with most everything you said, especially the generation of "me first" players in all sports. And you're right, these kids have been told they are the greatest thing since sliced bread since they were 12 years old.

But can we have a team full of them? How do other teams consistently play well with the same pool of attitudes?

I honestly don't understand, year in and out we make the same dumb mistakes even when we do change the players. Nothing changes in Dallas.

Your answer is as good as anything I can come up with because I have no idea. I'm hoping a new coach changes things but I'm certainly not banking on it.

You shouldn't need someone to push you to work hard. Middled aged guys like myself, and I assume you given your name, take pride in doing a good job.

 

[DandyTom64]

Take away their video games and hand them a shovel. There's no me first in hard work. And most hard work involves a team.

 

[Rockport]

It's funny to hear many of Y'all talking abut how Garrett must have "showed some fire this week" and the players responded." That belief flies in the face of what Troy said about Garrett - that he NEVER changes, is the most constant person he's ever known.

I believe this has been a lack of player pride, execution and urgency all along. Does coaching enter into this? Of course it does but, these guys are supposed to be pros and getting players up for a game is over-rated at this level.

Now, I am in favor of moving on from JG - it's just time and no amount of success from here on out should alter that. But, you have to look at what NFL coaches have to deal with:

• Union Labor with GUARANTEED money
• A total "Me First" attitude that's been proliferated since most of them were in Jr. High School
• A game that seemingly changes in scope from year to year
• Less than competent officiating on a League-wide basis

And then, of course, in Dallas, you add in Jerry Jones.

All I'm saying is that these players took it upon themselves to perform with pride in themselves. They executed - made tackles - the OL was brutal - Zeke ran HARD - more Man coverage was played over that soft zone crap we seem to love.

Just wondering just how much difference coaching's gonna make in the long run when players decide not to play and their payday's guaranteed. Sure, you can sit them but the depth isn't there like the old days - plus the cap doesn't play well with Owners watching their "investments" riding the pine ...

 

[Doomsday]

To me fire and all that is a bit overrated, the gameplan today was really good. They attacked the Rams weakness, the run defense.

They were more aggressive on defense and they stuck with the run, something they haven't done in previous weeks.

 

[IceBowler]

I agree with most everything you said, especially the generation of "me first" players in all sports. And you're right, these kids have been told they are the greatest thing since sliced bread since they were 12 years old.

But can we have a team full of them? How do other teams consistently play well with the same pool of attitudes?

I honestly don't understand, year in and out we make the same dumb mistakes even when we do change the players. Nothing changes in Dallas.

Your answer is as good as anything I can come up with because I have no idea. I'm hoping a new coach changes things but I'm certainly not banking on it.

You shouldn't need someone to push you to work hard. Middled aged guys like myself, and I assume you given your name, take pride in doing a good job.

Thanks for the "Middle-Aged" tag ... However, I am most certainly on the downhill run now!

 

[GORICO]

It's funny to hear many of Y'all talking abut how Garrett must have "showed some fire this week" and the players responded." That belief flies in the face of what Troy said about Garrett - that he NEVER changes, is the most constant person he's ever known.

I believe this has been a lack of player pride, execution and urgency all along. Does coaching enter into this? Of course it does but, these guys are supposed to be pros and getting players up for a game is over-rated at this level.

Now, I am in favor of moving on from JG - it's just time and no amount of success from here on out should alter that. But, you have to look at what NFL coaches have to deal with:

• Union Labor with GUARANTEED money
• A total "Me First" attitude that's been proliferated since most of them were in Jr. High School
• A game that seemingly changes in scope from year to year
• Less than competent officiating on a League-wide basis

And then, of course, in Dallas, you add in Jerry Jones.

All I'm saying is that these players took it upon themselves to perform with pride in themselves. They executed - made tackles - the OL was brutal - Zeke ran HARD - more Man coverage was played over that soft zone crap we seem to love.

Just wondering just how much difference coaching's gonna make in the long run when players decide not to play and their payday's guaranteed. Sure, you can sit them but the depth isn't there like the old days - plus the cap doesn't play well with Owners watching their "investments" riding the pine ...

not to mention way less practicing in full pads and way less overall practice as a team

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

Thanks for the "Middle-Aged" tag ... However, I am most certainly on the downhill run now!

Haha...with the way I feel most days I'm not too far behind you!

 

[Whyjerry]

This is why the next coach needs to be a fearsome leader. In my opinion the country club culture and the lack of accountability is the biggest issue in Dallas. The next coach needs to make this team uncomfortable.

 

[visionary]

It's funny to hear many of Y'all talking abut how Garrett must have "showed some fire this week" and the players responded." That belief flies in the face of what Troy said about Garrett - that he NEVER changes, is the most constant person he's ever known.

I believe this has been a lack of player pride, execution and urgency all along. Does coaching enter into this? Of course it does but, these guys are supposed to be pros and getting players up for a game is over-rated at this level.

Now, I am in favor of moving on from JG - it's just time and no amount of success from here on out should alter that. But, you have to look at what NFL coaches have to deal with:

• Union Labor with GUARANTEED money
• A total "Me First" attitude that's been proliferated since most of them were in Jr. High School
• A game that seemingly changes in scope from year to year
• Less than competent officiating on a League-wide basis

And then, of course, in Dallas, you add in Jerry Jones.

All I'm saying is that these players took it upon themselves to perform with pride in themselves. They executed - made tackles - the OL was brutal - Zeke ran HARD - more Man coverage was played over that soft zone crap we seem to love.

Just wondering just how much difference coaching's gonna make in the long run when players decide not to play and their payday's guaranteed. Sure, you can sit them but the depth isn't there like the old days - plus the cap doesn't play well with Owners watching their "investments" riding the pine ...

NE, SF, Seattle, NO, Ravens

Please let me know which of these teams don’t have highly paid players

Just stop this Garrett apologist tour by his homies

It is bad coaching
It is Garrett that is responsible

Get rid of him yesterday

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Well the title did say food for thought.

 

[Carter]

in my opinion you must have These three Things to be constantly successfull:

- a HC who holds everyone including himself accountable and acts rational instead of emotional. No Star Bonus and Butt Clapping (see Bilicheck or even Payton).
- a GM/Owner who gets his Nose out of the Sports Part of the Game and lets his Coaches do what they feel best and can make rational decisions like cutting Players he likes but dont live up to the contract (Kraft vs. Jones).
- a QB that is a true leader and can get his teammates to run through a brickwall for him (Brady, Brees etc.)

Cowboys have arguably only one of These three and that is the QB and he is just on his way to being that true leader.

They could start by getting 2/3 done this Offseason throwing JG out which is about 5 years too late anyway.

A Great Coach + Dak turning into the Leader he is on his way to might even overcome Jerry Jones and his incompetent Son.

 

[Kolemmitt]

NE, SF, Seattle, NO, Ravens

Please let me know which of these teams don’t have highly paid players

Just stop this Garrett apologist tour by his homies

It is bad coaching
It is Garrett that is responsible

Get rid of him yesterday

All due respect, but as an educator/ coach of several decades I think this whole "blame it on the youth" narrative is weak.
Kids these days are no better and no worse than kids from 20 years ago or 40 years ago. If anything, they face more pressure. Most of the kids I teach and coach play school sports and club sports, have to keep up good grades, and also work part time jobs. I honestly dont know how they do it all. And to be honest, many of the kids I know that went on to play college or beyond were from lower-income homes and were not at all raised the way you were describing.
And, as Visionary wrote, if your narrative is true, do you really think we are playing with "modern " kids and the Patriots, the Saints, the Steelers, etc. beam people in from the 60s? Of course not. It's all about the culture that your coaches and owners build.

 

[Flamma]

To me fire and all that is a bit overrated, the gameplan today was really good. They attacked the Rams weakness, the run defense.

They were more aggressive on defense and they stuck with the run, something they haven't done in previous weeks.

I'm not sure about the gameplan part of it. I kind of agree with the first two posts to some extent. A coach not only has to game plan, but get the players to believe their mothers were just slapped by the opposing coach. The Cowboys had great success against the Rams because they played like a team possessed. They dominated the LOS on both sides of the ball. There's really no way to lose in that situation. Can you get them to do that again?

The Bills, 49ers, and Saints often play like that than not. Credit to the coach of the Bills and Steelers for playing above talent level. But we saw the 49ers kind of take the week off. This is why I think the first two posts make a lot of sense.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

I like the post. It was almost too much food though. I think I gained like 5lbs.

Let's see how long it takes to become a Garrett hate post.

 

[RS12]

I am of the school of thought that McVay and his pass only mentality got the ball rolling down hill from the get go in this game for the Cowboys. It's funny because Eric Dickerson was on LA radio yesterday saying the same thing. Said he knew after the play calling first series they were going to lose. Basically McVay showed Garrett like tendencies of being stubborn and sticking to a game plan that isn't working. Then found out his QB can't play from behind.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Where is the proof Garrett and his coaches didn't fire up the players in preparation for the Rams?

 

[visionary]

All due respect, but as an educator/ coach of several decades I think this whole "blame it on the youth" narrative is weak.
Kids these days are no better and no worse than kids from 20 years ago or 40 years ago. If anything, they face more pressure. Most of the kids I teach and coach play school sports and club sports, have to keep up good grades, and also work part time jobs. I honestly dont know how they do it all. And to be honest, many of the kids I know that went on to play college or beyond were from lower-income homes and were not at all raised the way you were describing.
And, as Visionary wrote, if your narrative is true, do you really think we are playing with "modern " kids and the Patriots, the Saints, the Steelers, etc. beam people in from the 60s? Of course not. It's all about the culture that your coaches and owners build.

preach it brother

this is all just excuse making for garbage coaching

as Belichick said “talent can’t overcome bad coaching”

 

[Whirlwin]

Every week someone took a different turn and screwing up the game it was never the same thing. When you play a complete game we win. Everyone is to blame for losing. But not everyone in the same game. That’s the strange thing about this season. That’s why I believe we can go all the way still.

 

[foofighters]

It's funny to hear many of Y'all talking abut how Garrett must have "showed some fire this week" and the players responded." That belief flies in the face of what Troy said about Garrett - that he NEVER changes, is the most constant person he's ever known.

I believe this has been a lack of player pride, execution and urgency all along. Does coaching enter into this? Of course it does but, these guys are supposed to be pros and getting players up for a game is over-rated at this level.

Now, I am in favor of moving on from JG - it's just time and no amount of success from here on out should alter that. But, you have to look at what NFL coaches have to deal with:

• Union Labor with GUARANTEED money
• A total "Me First" attitude that's been proliferated since most of them were in Jr. High School
• A game that seemingly changes in scope from year to year
• Less than competent officiating on a League-wide basis

And then, of course, in Dallas, you add in Jerry Jones.

All I'm saying is that these players took it upon themselves to perform with pride in themselves. They executed - made tackles - the OL was brutal - Zeke ran HARD - more Man coverage was played over that soft zone crap we seem to love.

Just wondering just how much difference coaching's gonna make in the long run when players decide not to play and their payday's guaranteed. Sure, you can sit them but the depth isn't there like the old days - plus the cap doesn't play well with Owners watching their "investments" riding the pine ...

Jaylon and DLaw finally got tired of me harassing them on Twitter and finally started...