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7. Philadelphia Eagles (16) Shawn Andrews is the league's best guard, and he makes a huge difference to Brian Westbrook and the rest of the running game. The other guard, Todd Herremans, is probably the weakest point on the Eagles' line, but he is strong in blocking straight ahead. Jamaal Jackson, a 330-pound center, showed a lot of promise in 2006, his first full season as a starter. Left tackle William Thomas and right tackle Jon Runyan are smart, experienced players who are tasked with the extremely important — and challenging — job of keeping Donovan McNabb upright. The Eagles have great young talent in backups Winston Justice and Max Jean-Gilles, although there have been concerns about work ethic for both


13. Washington Commanders (6) Legendary offensive line coach Joe Bugel has done good work in his second stint with the Commanders. The line did a nice job of protecting young quarterback Jason Campbell last season, and the running game played at a much higher level than anyone could have predicted after Clinton Portis went down.
The loss of guard Derrick Dockery to free agency will hurt, though. Todd Wade will replace Dockery in the starting lineup, and that's a step down, especially in run blocking. Casey Rabach is a good center and Randy Thomas is a tough run-blocking guard, so Dockery's departure won't devastate the middle of the line. Left tackle Chris Samuels made his fourth Pro Bowl last year, and right tackle Jon Jansen had a good season despite playing with a leg injury. A serious injury to either one of their tackles would be a huge loss to the Commanders, as there isn't much depth behind them.


22. Dallas Cowboys (19) The Cowboys hope they bought a big upgrade when they signed Leonard Davis to a seven-year, $49 million contract. The biggest question is where that upgrade will come — guard or tackle. The most likely scenario has Davis starting at right guard, with Marc Colombo and Flozell Adams manning the tackle spots. Kyle Kosier, penciled in as the starter at left guard, is the weak link. He gets overpowered too often, especially against bigger defensive linemen. There's been talk that Pat McQuistan, who has played just one game in his NFL career, could beat Kosier for the starting job.


25. New York Giants (15) Who's going to protect Eli Manning's blind side? The Giants released left tackle Luke Petitgout and didn't seem to have a good plan in place for what to do with the position. Considering that the entire 2007 season seems to revolve around whether Manning will finally develop into the kind of quarterback the Giants thought he was when they engineered their big 2004 draft-day trade to acquire him, it doesn't make sense that they didn't do more to address the left tackle spot.
The most likely answer is that David Diehl will move from left guard, where he played last year, to left tackle. That could cause big problems for Manning; Diehl just isn't quick enough to deal with pass rushers coming off the edge. The rest of the line is fine. Kareem McKenzie is an effective run blocker at right tackle, and the middle three of Rich Seubert, Shaun O'Hara and Chris Snee get a good initial surge on running plays, which means Brandon Jacobs should be very effective when the Giants pound him up the middle in short yardage. But left tackle is both the most important position and the biggest question mark.
 

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Didn't we rank higher than that in their DVOA (or whatever the hell its called) for 2006 (as in, before we upgraded the line)? This reads like someone with only a vague knowledge of the O-line wrote it.
 

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theogt;1559317 said:
Didn't we rank higher than that in their DVOA (or whatever the hell its called) for 2006 (as in, before we upgraded the line)? This reads like someone with only a vague knowledge of the O-line wrote it.


That's what I thought, too....

But dunno. I just saw it and posted it.
 

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I'm getting sick of this "where is Davis going to play", the Cowboys have always stated he will play guard, that isn't in question.
 

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theogt;1559317 said:
Didn't we rank higher than that in their DVOA (or whatever the hell its called) for 2006 (as in, before we upgraded the line)? This reads like someone with only a vague knowledge of the O-line wrote it.

Hey at least he knows about McQuistan, but I don't recall Koiser getting overpowered all the time like he said. Also to note, for some reason people still think Davis *might* play tackle which isn't the case unless there is an injury...

I guess you just can't know all team as the same time, but are still required to make educated guesses even if that guess isn't so educated. :rolleyes:
 

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speedkilz88;1559323 said:
I'm getting sick of this "where is Davis going to play", the Cowboys have always stated he will play guard, that isn't in question.


Agreed.

I guess maybe, they could argue that if McQuistan comes along and wins out at LG; and Colombo sucks, that Davis could replace Colombo at RT and Kosier would move to RG.

But that's seems a lot to stretch for that to happen.

I don't see how people are confused about his position. But I guess, technically, its not 'set in stone.'
 

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nyc;1559324 said:
Hey at least he knows about McQuistan, but I don't recall Koiser getting overpowered all the time like he said. Also to note, for some reason people still think Davis *might* play tackle which isn't the case unless there is an injury...

I guess you just can't know all team as the same time, but are still required to make educated guesses even if that guess isn't so educated. :rolleyes:
Yeah, that's the problem. If you only have a surface level knowledge of the teams, how could you possibly rank them? They need to stick with un-biased statistical studies.
 
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Well the offensive line needs to improve on run blocking... I think they did a servicable job last year protecting Romo.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1559340 said:
Well the offensive line needs to improve on run blocking... I think they did a servicable job last year protecting Romo.

Rivera was one of the major issues in run blocking last year. With Davis now playing guard and not expected to require much lateral movement in his blocking schemes, I think the running game should be pretty good next year providing Jones can somehow stay upright when the wind blows.

Adams *should* be completely healed now so no excuses for him. Kosier wasn't dominating but he was good and Gurode got better and better as the season went on. Columbo had another year to improve and is expecting a new contract after this year. I think our offensive line is going to be a bright spot this year. The question is, will McQuistan become a guard, or will he stay at tackle to possible replace Adams next season.
 

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I'm still waiting for the FootballInsiders report on the OL - the Outsiders was exactly that; they had no clue.... I could have wrote that mess.
 

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kosier still not getting respect? may get beat out by mcquistian?

hope no one makes the "mistake" of calling kozier a detroit cast off. : )
 
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I'm hoping someone beats out Kosier because he gets blown off the ball too much for my liking as a LG! Call me spoiled from seeing Larry Allen destroy people all those years but geesh.... McQuistan could push him *crosses finger*
 

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I wasn't aware Kosier graded out that badly. I've read he was consistent more than that. In fact I've not read that.

Sounds like someone doesn't know the Boys very well.

If the Boys win more this year at least two OL will be legit Pro Bowlers. Maybe more.

How many Pro Bowl OL did we have in the nineties? What's the most in one year?
 
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