For all those who say Romo is the problem

[DallasInDC]

Who do you think were the possible solutions for replacing him over the past four years?

Looking over all of the FA QBs over the past four years, there was only 1 QB available who I would consider over Romo - Peyton Manning and I doubt he would have even considered the Cowboys given our OL issues and his neck injury/lack of mobility.

List of FA QBs by year:

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?y=2010


Next option would have been drafting a replacement QB. Since 2009 57 QBs were drafted and only 44 were available for the Cowboys to Draft without trading up. Of those QBs drafted, only Wilson and kaepernick stand out as possible replacements Nick Foles and Kirk Cousins were available but I don't consider either of them as an upgrade to Romo.

List of Drafted QB's by year:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

The last option was to trade for a QB. The only significant QB trade I could think of was Alex Smith. He is a bus driver at best. Definitely not an upgrade.

Over 400 QBs were available since 2009 and only 1 FA and 2 Draft picks (arguably) were available as potential upgrades. So I ask all of the Romo bashers, how would have upgraded the QB position over the past 5 years?

From my perspective, when Romo is gone, we are going to wish we had someone half as good as Romo unless we have the overall first pick or we get lucky like we did with Romo. That doesn't look promising to me.

 

[Disturbed]

I say draft AJ McCarron out of Alabama. He knows how to win....makes good decisions...is a smart player.

Trade Romo, he will never be a winner.

And I disagree with your comments on Smith. I think he and the new coach (Andy Reid) in KC are proving how significant these roles are to a team.

I think Dallas could have similiar results with the Auburn head coach (Gus Malzahn) and QB AJ McCarron.

 

[DABOYZ]

Get some one with football smarts that knows how to win when the game is on the line and stack this defense. Romo gets us to 8-8 average every year but also cost's us way to many games. Time to move on.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Get some one with football smarts that knows how to win when the game is on the line and stack this defense. Romo gets us to 8-8 average every year but also cost's us way to many games. Time to move on.

We cant move on bro......................the cap penalty of trading or releasing him would be astronomical..................not even feasible to discuss it for at least the next 3 to 4 seasons...........even then it would be a double digit cap hit.

We are married to Romo at this point and the divorce would bankrupt us................you cant take a $20 or $30 million dollar cap hit without gutting the entire roster and fielding a team of rookies for a couple of seasons.

 

[DallasInDC]

I say draft AJ McCarron out of Alabama. He knows how to win....makes good decisions...is a smart player.

Trade Romo, he will never be a winner.

And I disagree with your comments on Smith. I think he and the new coach (Andy Reid) in KC are proving how significant these roles are to a team.

I think Dallas could have similiar results with the Auburn head coach (Gus Malzahn) and QB AJ McCarron.

It's easy to say we should draft a second round prospect and that will solve our problems. But just look at the 99 drafted QBs from the second rd on since 2004 and tell me how many turned out to be solid starting QBs 8-9 tops and like said before only a couple of those could be considered an upgrade over Romo. The odds are against you.

 

[iceberg]

I say draft AJ McCarron out of Alabama. He knows how to win....makes good decisions...is a smart player.

Trade Romo, he will never be a winner.

And I disagree with your comments on Smith. I think he and the new coach (Andy Reid) in KC are proving how significant these roles are to a team.

I think Dallas could have similiar results with the Auburn head coach (Gus Malzahn) and QB AJ McCarron.

when someone says "trade romo, he will never be a winner" i think 2 things.

1. if he'll never be a winner, who would take him?
2. salary cap.

then dismiss anything they ever say again.

 

[Lazyking]

When we had the chance to move him (before the contract extension) I wanted to start fresh, get a young guy and build around him. Build up the defense to the point we don't need a gunslinger to win and help us lose games.

If we picked the right QB, we would possibly be really good in like 3 seasons..

Now, we have a $100 million dollar guy, who is showing cracks to being on the downside of his career and a defense that is shambles. Of course, having the right coaching in place would help but I don't see how we'll be much better in the coming years with Romo then we would be with a cheaper, younger, QB on the rise.

 

[DogFace]

Who do you think were the possible solutions for replacing him over the past four years?

Looking over all of the FA QBs over the past four years, there was only 1 QB available who I would consider over Romo - Peyton Manning and I doubt he would have even considered the Cowboys given our OL issues and his neck injury/lack of mobility.

List of FA QBs by year:

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?y=2010


Next option would have been drafting a replacement QB. Since 2009 57 QBs were drafted and only 44 were available for the Cowboys to Draft without trading up. Of those QBs drafted, only Wilson and kaepernick stand out as possible replacements Nick Foles and Kirk Cousins were available but I don't consider either of them as an upgrade to Romo.

List of Drafted QB's by year:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

The last option was to trade for a QB. The only significant QB trade I could think of was Alex Smith. He is a bus driver at best. Definitely not an upgrade.

Over 400 QBs were available since 2009 and only 1 FA and 2 Draft picks (arguably) were available as potential upgrades. So I ask all of the Romo bashers, how would have upgraded the QB position over the past 5 years?

From my perspective, when Romo is gone, we are going to wish we had someone half as good as Romo unless we have the overall first pick or we get lucky like we did with Romo. That doesn't look promising to me.

Excellent post. Laying out the actual alternatives that were and may be possible.
I never hear from the anti Romo crowd Realistic alternatives. Many that were possible to get were either not better or Kapernick and Wilson. Everyone except 2 teams missed on them. So...

 

[bark]

We cannot trade romo.../contract.. He is your qb for the next 2-3 yrs minimum

 

[big dog cowboy]

Trade Romo, he will never be a winner.

How?

I'm serious.

 

[Hook'em#11]

when someone says "trade romo, he will never be a winner" i think 2 things.

1. if he'll never be a winner, who would take him?
2. salary cap.

then dismiss anything they ever say again.

I wouldn't even go that far..

I just chalk it up to complete Nonsense.

 

[ologan]

Get some one with football smarts that knows how to win when the game is on the line and stack this defense. Romo gets us to 8-8 average every year but also cost's us way to many games. Time to move on.

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I think you hit on something.......IMO, Romo get's us to 8-8, as the team stands RIGHT NOW! We follow your advice and do what's highlighted in red, and this team is 10-6/ 11-5/ or 12/4.....again, IMO!

 

[tm1119]

My question to the OP is how can it get worse?

You're right, if we didn't have romo we would indeed be really bad. But with a really bad record comes those franchise qb's you said we didn't have an opportunity to draft. But instead we are stuck in purgatory as a mediocre team that can't win big games.I would have much rather dealt with a bad year or 2 while the team was retooled around a new QB rather than what we are dealing with....and most likely will continue to deal with over the next 3-4 years while Romo is still here

 

[ufcrules1]

My question to the OP is how can it get worse?

You're right, if we didn't have romo we would indeed be really bad. But with a really bad record comes those franchise qb's you said we didn't have an opportunity to draft. But instead we are stuck in purgatory as a mediocre team that can't win big games.I would have much rather dealt with a bad year or 2 while the team was retooled around a new QB rather than what we are dealing with....and most likely will continue to deal with over the next 3-4 years while Romo is still here

Brilliant post. 8-8 is almost a worst case scenario for trying to rebuild a football team. Romo is just good enough to get us a 18-23 round draft pick in the first round every year.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Who do you think were the possible solutions for replacing him over the past four years?

Looking over all of the FA QBs over the past four years, there was only 1 QB available who I would consider over Romo - Peyton Manning and I doubt he would have even considered the Cowboys given our OL issues and his neck injury/lack of mobility.

List of FA QBs by year:

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?y=2010


Next option would have been drafting a replacement QB. Since 2009 57 QBs were drafted and only 44 were available for the Cowboys to Draft without trading up. Of those QBs drafted, only Wilson and kaepernick stand out as possible replacements Nick Foles and Kirk Cousins were available but I don't consider either of them as an upgrade to Romo.

List of Drafted QB's by year:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

The last option was to trade for a QB. The only significant QB trade I could think of was Alex Smith. He is a bus driver at best. Definitely not an upgrade.

Over 400 QBs were available since 2009 and only 1 FA and 2 Draft picks (arguably) were available as potential upgrades. So I ask all of the Romo bashers, how would have upgraded the QB position over the past 5 years?

From my perspective, when Romo is gone, we are going to wish we had someone half as good as Romo unless we have the overall first pick or we get lucky like we did with Romo. That doesn't look promising to me.

Its funny how easily you dismiss not going after Peyton.. lol.

Also, i think i'd rather have a bus driver QB here. Someone who just takes what the D gives them and makes smart decisions and doesn't try to force things. You talk as if that's a bad thing.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Who do you think were the possible solutions for replacing him over the past four years?

Looking over all of the FA QBs over the past four years, there was only 1 QB available who I would consider over Romo - Peyton Manning and I doubt he would have even considered the Cowboys given our OL issues and his neck injury/lack of mobility.

List of FA QBs by year:

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?y=2010


Next option would have been drafting a replacement QB. Since 2009 57 QBs were drafted and only 44 were available for the Cowboys to Draft without trading up. Of those QBs drafted, only Wilson and kaepernick stand out as possible replacements Nick Foles and Kirk Cousins were available but I don't consider either of them as an upgrade to Romo.

List of Drafted QB's by year:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

The last option was to trade for a QB. The only significant QB trade I could think of was Alex Smith. He is a bus driver at best. Definitely not an upgrade.

Over 400 QBs were available since 2009 and only 1 FA and 2 Draft picks (arguably) were available as potential upgrades. So I ask all of the Romo bashers, how would have upgraded the QB position over the past 5 years?

From my perspective, when Romo is gone, we are going to wish we had someone half as good as Romo unless we have the overall first pick or we get lucky like we did with Romo. That doesn't look promising to me.

That isn't my problem replacing him. This is not a zero sum game.

All this is is a strawman you can easily knock down.

Now I am not certain I would have replaced Romo. I do think he tends to either over believe in his skills when it comes to crunch time, or cannot keep a cool enough head.

In either case, replacing him doesn't enter into that.

But if I did want him replaced, something could have been cobbled together to make that so. Seems when Jerry got a snoot full and made a move for Mo Claiborne, he moved up to get the guy he wanted. So I'll allow you to extrapolate what could or could not have been done with Jerry on the war path.

You claim Alex Smith is merely a bus driver. You say that like it is a bad thing.

There have been quite a few bus drivers that have won it all. Not saying he ever will. But this is the flaw in your analysis, because YOU assign value from YOUR perspective.

The facts are simple. Romo has brilliant days. Romo throws for a great number of yards. The team loses enough that all that doesn't matter.

Under the big lights, Romo has shown he will fold at times. Not every time or most times.

But he now has a history that is perceived to reveal he will toss a pick at the most inopportune time of the game and the team will lose. Many excuses have been made for why those picks occur.

But in all those picks, the common denominator is Romo.

Ockham's Razor applies here. - It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

Meaning, with all the different theories as to whose fault it is the picks occur and the game is lost, the simplest is usually the one that is correct if you do not know thew exact causal effect.

The simplest hypothesis is Romo is the reason for the losing since he is the common denominator of all the picks that have lost games.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

That isn't my problem replacing him. This is not a zero sum game.

All this is is a strawman you can easily knock down.

Now I am not certain I would have replaced Romo. I do think he tends to either over believe in his skills when it comes to crunch time, or cannot keep a cool enough head.

In either case, replacing him doesn't enter into that.

But if I did want him replaced, something could have been cobbled together to make that so. Seems when Jerry got a snoot full and made a move for Mo Claiborne, he moved up to get the guy he wanted. So I'll allow you to extrapolate what could or could not have been done with Jerry on the war path.

You claim Alex Smith is merely a bus driver. You say that like it is a bad thing.

There have been quite a few bus drivers that have won it all. Not saying he ever will. But this is the flaw in your analysis, because YOU assign value from YOUR perspective.

The facts are simple. Romo has brilliant days. Romo throws for a great number of yards. The team loses enough that all that doesn't matter.

Under the big lights, Romo has shown he will fold at times. Not every time or most times.

But he now has a history that is perceived to reveal he will toss a pick at the most inopportune time of the game and the team will lose. Many excuses have been made for why those picks occur.

But in all those picks, the common denominator is Romo.

Ockham's Razor applies here. - It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

Meaning, with all the different theories as to whose fault it is the picks occur and the game is lost, the simplest is usually the one that is correct if you do not know thew exact causal effect.

The simplest hypothesis is Romo is the reason for the losing since he is the common denominator of all the picks that have lost games.

Plato is rolling over in his grave.

 

[TheCount]

Romo isn't THE PROBLEM, he can be A PROBLEM, but he's not the only issue with the team. If you think blindly throwing a slant with your feet splayed out below you with a game on the line is acceptable, then I don't know what to tell you. He's been around too long to be making these sorts of mistakes.

 

[DallasInDC]

My question to the OP is how can it get worse?

You're right, if we didn't have romo we would indeed be really bad. But with a really bad record comes those franchise qb's you said we didn't have an opportunity to draft. But instead we are stuck in purgatory as a mediocre team that can't win big games.I would have much rather dealt with a bad year or 2 while the team was retooled around a new QB rather than what we are dealing with....and most likely will continue to deal with over the next 3-4 years while Romo is still here

Blowing the whole thing up is an approach. High draft picks for several years could give you new opportunities to break our current status quo. However, given our GM and current inability to really coach up the players we have, I fear a starting from scratch approach could easily result in being perrenial bottom feeders a la the browns.

Looking at the draft data on QBs it is easy to see that if you want a franchise QB, you have much better chance of finding one with a top 5 pick (well duh). Anything after that becomes a real crap shoot with odds out of yourr favor. For every Tom Brady, there are 100 Josh Freeman's.

 

[DallasInDC]

That isn't my problem replacing him. This is not a zero sum game.

All this is is a strawman you can easily knock down.

Now I am not certain I would have replaced Romo. I do think he tends to either over believe in his skills when it comes to crunch time, or cannot keep a cool enough head.

In either case, replacing him doesn't enter into that.

But if I did want him replaced, something could have been cobbled together to make that so. Seems when Jerry got a snoot full and made a move for Mo Claiborne, he moved up to get the guy he wanted. So I'll allow you to extrapolate what could or could not have been done with Jerry on the war path.

You claim Alex Smith is merely a bus driver. You say that like it is a bad thing.

There have been quite a few bus drivers that have won it all. Not saying he ever will. But this is the flaw in your analysis, because YOU assign value from YOUR perspective.

The facts are simple. Romo has brilliant days. Romo throws for a great number of yards. The team loses enough that all that doesn't matter.

Under the big lights, Romo has shown he will fold at times. Not every time or most times.

But he now has a history that is perceived to reveal he will toss a pick at the most inopportune time of the game and the team will lose. Many excuses have been made for why those picks occur.

But in all those picks, the common denominator is Romo.

Ockham's Razor applies here. - It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

Meaning, with all the different theories as to whose fault it is the picks occur and the game is lost, the simplest is usually the one that is correct if you do not know thew exact causal effect.

The simplest hypothesis is Romo is the reason for the losing since he is the common denominator of all the picks that have lost games.

Whose to say a journeyman QB/bus driver would do any better with this current cast of misfits. With a defense that has been giving up yards and points like a seive, an OL that has been marginally better than years past and a WR corp that seems to struggle with sing coverage sans Dez, an aging TE followed by 2 TEs are what they are backup TEs, I think a bus driver would only result in more futility. A bus driver works when you have a solid Defense and a stout OL that keeps your QB from having to hoist the team on his shoulders to win the game. This team isn't built that way.