Four pieces to put this roster over the top

[Killerinstinct]

1. Sign Calais Campbell DT - He’s 37 so he is not a long term solution but he is among the best run stopping defensive linemen in the league. He’s not a liability vs the pass either. He’s also flexible where you can move him around from DT to End. Dlaw Kneeland Mazi Campbell Kendrick’s and Clark at the Will instead of in the middle makes for a much improved run defense.

2. Trade for Trayvon Burks WR. - He’s buried on the Titans depth chart. I loved him coming out of college. He has been a disappointment so far but as a no 3 option he might shine. I think he could give us a bit of the big bodied Debo Samuel type of WR.

3. Bring back Gilly. We didn’t get to see what Diggs Gilly Bland could do together. Bland is a good outside corner but he could be a great slot corner. I like Lewis but I think he is upgradable and would still see playing time in dime packages.

4. Trade for a rb with juice. The jets have several, the bears too, Atlanta, San Fran, Baltimore signed Henry making the rookie from last year with home run speed that I was hoping Dallas would grab expendable. There are options all over the place here.

These 4 pieces would make a big difference and they are affordable and we have enough draft picks next year to let a couple go.

 

[_sturt_]

DE? Highest priority to add talent, logically, should be where we're thinnest.

And where are we thinnest?

1-Tech, and it isn't even close.

Not many of those on the market, but there is one that stands out as affordable and though older, still reasonably productive. Lawrence Guy. Even better, he's well-known for his locker room presence, and ostensibly would make an excellent mentor to Mazi.


After that, you could consider another DT or DE, depending on where you think Golston and Fehoko are going to end up... both having been considered DEs that you could move inside. Don't get me wrong... I'd love to add Campbell or any of the other FA DEs known for their pass rushing... I just don't think any of those will be in our budget based on what I'm seeing. And we should leave room for Wheat to enter that conversation.


WR? Don't think we need another vet WR, but if one fell in our lap, that would be fine. We already know CeeDee, Cooks, Tolbert and Turpin are locks to be on the roster (assuming no injuries). Many if not most of us assume Stephens will be a 5th. Conventionally speaking, that leaves you with one slot at best... for which Brooks (who they love), Durden (who they love), and Flournoy (who they just drafted) to fight over. What's more, you have a few dark horses that could show up in camp... McMath, Billy-Johnson, in particular.

CB? Drafting Carson may have eliminated the interest in Gilmore... who likely was going to cost too much anyway.

RB? Trade for some player with juice? To the contrary, most teams go 3 deep on their RB depth chart, and reviewing those that drafted an RB (or two) that ended up pushing some vet arguably down to #4 on the depth chart... there are only two teams that would meet the criteria: The Jets (Abanikanda) and the Rams (Evans). Not sure there's a lot to get excited about with either of those... at least enough to trade for one, though if either was cut, you could consider bringing him to camp to compete.

Me, I'm among those who believe we're already okay there, and I'm among the slice of that party that believe Deuce is going to impress with his juice, as long as he has an O-line in front of him that allows him a chance. What we saw too often last year was Deuce being inserted into game situations where he didn't have the benefit of the starting line, and he was too often stopped before he could get started due to defensive penetration... like Broaddus put it, you can make one guy miss, but you're asking too much to make 3 or 4 guys miss.



So, 1-tech, yes please.

DL, sure, add someone, but I'm skeptical that we can add anyone who will make much of a difference.

RB, won't rule it out, but not urgent and also not sure we can add a difference-maker.

WR, probably not.
CB, probably not.



But that said, here's who I would like to add: David Bakhtiari... McCarthy's guy and Rodgers' protector for several years at LT.

That assumes he's healthy, of course. From what I've read, he is, but GB moved on from him because he's been too fragile (only 1 game in 2021, and then 1 game in 2023). He walks in the door as the Game 1 starter at LT, and allows you the luxury of letting Guyton develop behind him. Like Lawrence Guy, he'd make an excellent mentor to a DAL first round pick.

 

[shabazz]

It's cute that some fans still think the FO is trying to win a Championship this season

Aye Carumba

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

1. Sign Calais Campbell DT - He’s 37 so he is not a long term solution but he is among the best run stopping defensive linemen in the league. He’s not a liability vs the pass either. He’s also flexible where you can move him around from DT to End. Dlaw Kneeland Mazi Campbell Kendrick’s and Clark at the Will instead of in the middle makes for a much improved run defense.

2. Trade for Trayvon Burks WR. - He’s buried on the Titans depth chart. I loved him coming out of college. He has been a disappointment so far but as a no 3 option he might shine. I think he could give us a bit of the big bodied Debo Samuel type of WR.

3. Bring back Gilly. We didn’t get to see what Diggs Gilly Bland could do together. Bland is a good outside corner but he could be a great slot corner. I like Lewis but I think he is upgradable and would still see playing time in dime packages.

4. Trade for a rb with juice. The jets have several, the bears too, Atlanta, San Fran, Baltimore signed Henry making the rookie from last year with home run speed that I was hoping Dallas would grab expendable. There are options all over the place here.

These 4 pieces would make a big difference and they are affordable and we have enough draft picks next year to let a couple go.

Here are my moves
1- fire the current GM
2- hire a real GM
3- see #1
4- see #2

 

[blueblood70]

DE? Highest priority to add talent, logically, should be where we're thinnest.

And where are we thinnest?

1-Tech, and it isn't even close.

Not many of those on the market, but there is one that stands out as affordable and though older, still reasonably productive. Lawrence Guy. Even better, he's well-known for his locker room presence, and ostensibly would make an excellent mentor to Mazi.


After that, you could consider another DT or DE, depending on where you think Golston and Fehoko are going to end up... both having been considered DEs that you could move inside. Don't get me wrong... I'd love to add Campbell or any of the other FA DEs known for their pass rushing... I just don't think any of those will be in our budget based on what I'm seeing. And we should leave room for Wheat to enter that conversation.


WR? Don't think we need another vet WR, but if one fell in our lap, that would be fine. We already know CeeDee, Cooks, Tolbert and Turpin are locks to be on the roster (assuming no injuries). Many if not most of us assume Stephens will be a 5th. Conventionally speaking, that leaves you with one slot at best... for which Brooks (who they love), Durden (who they love), and Flournoy (who they just drafted) to fight over. What's more, you have a few dark horses that could show up in camp... McMath, Billy-Johnson, in particular.

CB? Drafting Carson may have eliminated the interest in Gilmore... who likely was going to cost too much anyway.

RB? Trade for some player with juice? To the contrary, most teams go 3 deep on their RB depth chart, and reviewing those that drafted an RB (or two) that ended up pushing some vet arguably down to #4 on the depth chart... there are only two teams that would meet the criteria: The Jets (Abanikanda) and the Rams (Evans). Not sure there's a lot to get excited about with either of those... at least enough to trade for one, though if either was cut, you could consider bringing him to camp to compete.

Me, I'm among those who believe we're already okay there, and I'm among the slice of that party that believe Deuce is going to impress with his juice, as long as he has an O-line in front of him that allows him a chance. What we saw too often last year was Deuce being inserted into game situations where he didn't have the benefit of the starting line, and he was too often stopped before he could get started due to defensive penetration... like Broaddus put it, you can make one guy miss, but you're asking too much to make 3 or 4 guys miss.



So, 1-tech, yes please.

DL, sure, add someone, but I'm skeptical that we can add anyone who will make much of a difference.

RB, won't rule it out, but not urgent and also not sure we can add a difference-maker.

WR, probably not.
CB, probably not.



But that said, here's who I would like to add: David Bakhtiari... McCarthy's guy and Rodgers' protector for several years at LT.

That assumes he's healthy, of course. From what I've read, he is, but GB moved on from him because he's been too fragile (only 1 game in 2021, and then 1 game in 2023). He walks in the door as the Game 1 starter at LT, and allows you the luxury of letting Guyton develop behind him. Like Lawrence Guy, he'd make an excellent mentor to a DAL first round pick.

Here's the problem with your logic we would never have allowed tyron Smith to leave here because he's had injury issues and he wanted 6 to $8 million we decided to let him walk what would be bringing a guy that didn't grow up in an organization that has similar problems with health and probably wants the same kind of money why in the world would you do that you know they will not do that they have settled in to developing a guy and if not it Edoga will have to be the bridge..

All I'm saying is know the situation know the front office what they're doing so far when they allowed Tyron to walk is saying we don't want another aging injury prone higher paid veteran we wanna develop a new left tackle... Or they will find an option on this team either with a doga or switching steel or someone else but they will not bring another tackles have problems staying healthy who probably want some pretty solid money because if we were gonna do that they would have simply kept tyron...

 

[Coogiguy03]

1. Sign Calais Campbell DT - He’s 37 so he is not a long term solution but he is among the best run stopping defensive linemen in the league. He’s not a liability vs the pass either. He’s also flexible where you can move him around from DT to End. Dlaw Kneeland Mazi Campbell Kendrick’s and Clark at the Will instead of in the middle makes for a much improved run defense.

2. Trade for Trayvon Burks WR. - He’s buried on the Titans depth chart. I loved him coming out of college. He has been a disappointment so far but as a no 3 option he might shine. I think he could give us a bit of the big bodied Debo Samuel type of WR.

3. Bring back Gilly. We didn’t get to see what Diggs Gilly Bland could do together. Bland is a good outside corner but he could be a great slot corner. I like Lewis but I think he is upgradable and would still see playing time in dime packages.

4. Trade for a rb with juice. The jets have several, the bears too, Atlanta, San Fran, Baltimore signed Henry making the rookie from last year with home run speed that I was hoping Dallas would grab expendable. There are options all over the place here.

These 4 pieces would make a big difference and they are affordable and we have enough draft picks next year to let a couple go.

I'll take the 1st option, I don't know why there hasn't been any interest!!!!

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I think a DT is always in need,...and RB that can break it open too...the backs here don't scare anyone. Duece is not gonna get enough carries to make a lot of difference i think... Dallas had their shot at RB in the 3rd round which they threw away. Idiots... this Marist guy better be All Pro within the next three years.

 

[_sturt_]

wants the same kind of money

That's the problem with your logic... as well as mine, admittedly... neither of us know for a fact that Bakhtiari will take.

It's true, if he wants as much as you theorize he does, that doesn't seem to be in the realm of possibility.

If he's going to end up in a deal that I'm inclined to think a 32 year-old who has sandwiched-in one healthy season between two lost seasons... ie, a very team-friendly one... I think that's do-able.

Where we differ in our conclusions is, I don't think Bakhtiari is going to find anyone ready to pay that kind of bank for him... his situation and Tyron's situation are not the same thing.

 

[Killerinstinct]

I think a DT is always in need,...and RB that can break it open too...the backs here don't scare anyone. Duece is not gonna get enough carries to make a lot of difference i think... Dallas had their shot at RB in the 3rd round which they threw away. Idiots... this Marist guy better be All Pro within the next three years.

I couldn’t agree more. Not to mention they had a trade offer for pick 87 and could have ended up with Marist AND a RB.

 

[_sturt_]

this Marist guy better be All Pro within the next three years

Really?

Because I don't think (a) many of the RBs we could have chosen will prove to be All-Pro, and (b) many 3rd rounders, as a group, routinely get to All-Pro status.

I get your comment, but I think the thought was that Zimmer loved the guy, and they threw Zimmer that bone. And based on what little we know, it appears that Zimmer was super impressed by Liufau's on-field IQ and ability to quickly assess what he's seeing on the offensive side of the ball.

I'll be satisfied if Liufau turns out to be a starter.

 

[blueblood70]

I think a DT is always in need,...and RB that can break it open too...the backs here don't scare anyone. Duece is not gonna get enough carries to make a lot of difference i think... Dallas had their shot at RB in the 3rd round which they threw away. Idiots... this Marist guy better be All Pro within the next three years.

First of all you could be right and you could be very wrong picking up a running back instead of the linebacker there's no guarantee that running backs gonna be any better than what we have on this team you say no one scares anyone maybe no one scares anyone yet how do we know that undrafted free agent Nathaniel P he has been known to run A 4.35 or A 4.4 four whatever you want to believe he could end up being a little faster version of Tony Pollard...

And we already have our power backs but we don't need to scare anyone because I could tell you this right now I mean people talk about Najee Harris and all this nonsense and his 3.9 yards per carry career average doesn't scare anyone either but that doesn't stop the Pittsburgh Steelers from starting this guy the last three years and just feeding them him the ball as much as possible you don't have to be scary as long as you're effective if we have both kinds of players on this team which I believe we can as long as the offensive line comes together the offensive line and the utilization of our running backs last year was a bigger problem than the fact that no one scared anyone per se...

Eddie George was the same kind of player that Najee Harris is he was not scary at all but he moved the chains he was a power back that didn't do anything special and he had just about every year of his career was under 4 yards per carry the man literally was like a 3.5 yards per carry guy and somehow he has a very popular name he was it held in very high regard I mean you don't need to be scary to be effective that's the thing.... Breakaway speed would be nice but you don't need to do that to be an effective run game but I believe one of these young guys could possibly do it and Nathaniel Pete I would look to 1st but I think last year if we were to use Rico dowdle the way we used Tony Pollard and let Tony Pollard be the old Tony Pollard and run as more of the backup like he did for zeke his first couple years that this run game would have looked a lot better... So what's on the coaches in the scheme and the offensive line of how this group will do...

 

[_sturt_]

they had a trade offer for pick 87 and could have ended up with Marist AND a RB

Source on that trade offer? Maybe I missed it, but I'm ignorant of this.

Regardless, "could have" is an easy claim to make. While one might be persuaded that most teams didn't have Liufau as high on their boards as DAL apparently did, all it takes is one other team to get in front of your next pick, of course, and the best laid plans end up imploding. If you're that persuaded about a player, I'm not going to get upset... it's your jobs on the line... this is only a consumer entertainment choice I make, a relative hobby.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Source on that trade offer? Maybe I missed it, but I'm ignorant of this.

Regardless, "could have" is an easy claim to make. While one might be persuaded that most teams didn't have Liufau as high on their boards as DAL apparently did, all it takes is one other team to get in front of your next pick, of course, and the best laid plans end up imploding. If you're that persuaded about a player, I'm not going to get upset... it's your jobs on the line... this is only a consumer entertainment choice I make, a relative hobby.

The trade offer was to drop 7 spots. Marist would have been there.

 

[KJJ]

The only thing that will put this roster over the top is if “several” first and second year players make a big impact in 2024.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Put this roster over the top... People here always over hype our roster, every year, I think. It'll take a lot more than 4 pieces, I think.

 

[America's Cowboy]

1. Sign Calais Campbell DT - He’s 37 so he is not a long term solution but he is among the best run stopping defensive linemen in the league. He’s not a liability vs the pass either. He’s also flexible where you can move him around from DT to End. Dlaw Kneeland Mazi Campbell Kendrick’s and Clark at the Will instead of in the middle makes for a much improved run defense.

2. Trade for Trayvon Burks WR. - He’s buried on the Titans depth chart. I loved him coming out of college. He has been a disappointment so far but as a no 3 option he might shine. I think he could give us a bit of the big bodied Debo Samuel type of WR.

3. Bring back Gilly. We didn’t get to see what Diggs Gilly Bland could do together. Bland is a good outside corner but he could be a great slot corner. I like Lewis but I think he is upgradable and would still see playing time in dime packages.

4. Trade for a rb with juice. The jets have several, the bears too, Atlanta, San Fran, Baltimore signed Henry making the rookie from last year with home run speed that I was hoping Dallas would grab expendable. There are options all over the place here.

These 4 pieces would make a big difference and they are affordable and we have enough draft picks next year to let a couple go.

I like it!

 

[_sturt_]

The trade offer was to drop 7 spots. Marist would have been there.

1. No offense, but again.... source?

(I know the internet is reliable as a rule, but I'm just a prude.)

2. Stop me if you've heard this before... all it takes is one other team to get in front of your next pick, of course, and the best laid plans end up imploding. If you're that persuaded about a player, I'm not going to get upset... it's your jobs on the line... this is only a consumer entertainment choice I make, a relative hobby.

 

[JBS]

GM
HC
QB

I did it in 3 pieces

 

[jazzcat22]

I'll take the 1st option, I don't know why there hasn't been any interest!!!!

He would be more of a TC type of signing. They probably want to see the players on the current roster first.

 

[Chasing6]

1. Sign Calais Campbell DT - He’s 37 so he is not a long term solution but he is among the best run stopping defensive linemen in the league. He’s not a liability vs the pass either. He’s also flexible where you can move him around from DT to End. Dlaw Kneeland Mazi Campbell Kendrick’s and Clark at the Will instead of in the middle makes for a much improved run defense.

2. Trade for Trayvon Burks WR. - He’s buried on the Titans depth chart. I loved him coming out of college. He has been a disappointment so far but as a no 3 option he might shine. I think he could give us a bit of the big bodied Debo Samuel type of WR.

3. Bring back Gilly. We didn’t get to see what Diggs Gilly Bland could do together. Bland is a good outside corner but he could be a great slot corner. I like Lewis but I think he is upgradable and would still see playing time in dime packages.

4. Trade for a rb with juice. The jets have several, the bears too, Atlanta, San Fran, Baltimore signed Henry making the rookie from last year with home run speed that I was hoping Dallas would grab expendable. There are options all over the place here.

These 4 pieces would make a big difference and they are affordable and we have enough draft picks next year to let a couple go.

We will most likely wait for someone to be cut.