Franchise QB marketing

[DandyDon52]

It’s been my experience the NFL runs through the defense . If your defense functions and gets three and outs keeps the opposition to a respectable output you’re going to win simple . The QB should not be a turnover magnet and at least get to the 20’s . Not asking for the moon .

The offense and qb will sell more tickets than the defense esp with the casuals.

 

[pete026]

Your definition of a franchise QB is absurdly vague. Also the number of “franchise QBs” is also debatable. In my opinion, there are like 30-50 QBs in any ....

IMO, it is absurd to think Franchise QB = Elite QB. From your opening post, you seem to think they are. They have a relationship, as explained in my post, but are not equivalent.

Also, as stated in my post, a determination of "Franchise QB" is obviously subjective because sports analysts discuss/argue it frequently.

But saying it is a throwaway term is like saying a certain player being discussed as a "Great QB" vs. a "Good QB" are throwaway terms.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The only standard formulas that I see is building a great defense with a competent QB (“franchise”and elite not necessary) with offensive lineman, running and receiving threats. At least one elite receiving threat-but no need for two elite receiving threats based on past champions. If the team has an elite QB they still need that one elite receiver, elite defense, but only decent running game.

I was referring to the offensive and defensive draft allocation where they will zero in on a prospect or group of prospects because of positional need. Need for a left tackle after waiving goodbye to Tyron-draft Guyton (there was a heavy run on tackles that first round before the Cowboys picked). They spent heavily on defense the past 9 months because the defense was so poor, and they want it better NOW-not later because of the window they view with Prescott. It is reactive construction.

I get what you’re saying but every champion is different. Rams, Chiefs, Seahawks and Eagles have different make ups. Cowboys probably fit the Eagles formula closer then they do those other teams.

 

[Blitzen]

IMO, it is absurd to think Franchise QB = Elite QB. From your opening post, you seem to think they are. They have a relationship, as explained in my post, but are not equivalent.

Also, as stated in my post, a determination of "Franchise QB" is obviously subjective because sports analysts discuss/argue it frequently.

But saying it is a throwaway term is like saying a certain player being discussed as a "Great QB" vs. a "Good QB" are throwaway terms.

I gave some definition to how I use “elite.” If you want, you could do the same for “franchise.” The reason that I believe the term “franchise” is used is to market. They keep the term ambiguous because if you try to define it-it becomes something correct or incorrect when discussing a particular player. That way-players can be discussed in vague arguments. This player is equivalent to this other player because look at these stats for instance-even though the two players play on different squads and the argument is apples/oranges.

 

[Rockport]

You certainly spread enough of your own.

Thank you! I’m glad you’ve noticed I check you haters. Someone has to do it. There’s a few of us.

 

[Whirlwin]

I think he would sell his soul, for championship

Anybody thinks that Jerry doesn’t want to win,
Think again

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think we SHOULD be able to discern if a QB makes people around him BETTER. If he can make small plays MATTER. I think 'hommes does that. Those weird plays he makes aren't always stat heavy but he keeps things moving.

If you just look at raw stats...you aren't seeing things right. You are blinded by bling.

A good defense makes the QB better, right?

BUT...a QB...can also help the defense. I'd look at 1st downs, and TOP....to see if your QB is "helping". It doesn't always have to be "30 TDs ever year".

If your QB can control the clock and keep the powerful opposing offense off the field and defense fresh....then he's MY "franchise" QB. The yards and scoring will work itself out if he stays consistent.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think he would sell his soul, for championship

Anybody thinks that Jerry doesn’t want to win,
Think again

He does WANT to win. The problem is it HAS to be HIS way. He's still trying to extinquish the "perception" that Jimmy won those super bowls.

He needs batman slapped...that he ALLLOWED Jimmy to win them. He thinks it's still 1990 and being loyal to "his boys" will work. Throwing money at the kids today...is not the formula.Telling the head coach what to do and say....won't work. He forgot he didn't do that to Jimmy.

Hire the right people, provide the resources, then step back an let them win. THEIR win is YOUR win, Jerry Jones.

This one is for you Jerry:

 

[DarkVader33]

He does WANT to win. The problem is it HAS to be HIS way. He's still trying to extinquish the "perception" that Jimmy won those super bowls.

He needs batman slapped...that he ALLLOWED Jimmy to win them. He thinks it's still 1990 and being loyal to "his boys" will work. Throwing money at the kids today...is not the formula.Telling the head coach what to do and say....won't work. He forgot he didn't do that to Jimmy.

Hire the right people, provide the resources, then step back an let them win. THEIR win is YOUR win, Jerry Jones.

This one is for you Jerry:

100%

 

[Blitzen]

I get what you’re saying but every champion is different. Rams, Chiefs, Seahawks and Eagles have different make ups. Cowboys probably fit the Eagles formula closer than they do those other teams.

I can see that the Cowboys want a defense that is similar to Philadelphia. I’m interested to see how it works out with Parker and the new scheme/players.

 

[Whirlwin]

I can see that the Cowboys want a defense that is similar to Philadelphia. I’m interested to see how it works out with Parker and the new scheme/players.

This is not Philadelphia defense, this is the Cowboys defense lol
Just saying

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I can see that the Cowboys want a defense that is similar to Philadelphia. I’m interested to see how it works out with Parker and the new scheme/players.

It’s gonna depend on how good the secondary is I think.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Oh ok.

Answer is still no.

Okay we replace Dak and suddenly 30 years of postseason ineptitude magically disappears.

Got it.

 

[RonWashington]

The offense and qb will sell more tickets than the defense esp with the casuals.

And win nothing

 

[Blitzen]

I think he would sell his soul, for championship

Anybody thinks that Jerry doesn’t want to win,
Think again

He wants it under his conditions. If given real truth serum, he would tell you he would gladly take another championship if:

1. He was the general manager at the time (and with no association with Jimmy’s squad)
2. He was the owner at the time and not obligated to sell the team afterwards.

He wants a championship under his dominion. Not because he’s a fan of the Cowboys. He’s a fan of having his ego stroked. He has been quoted in the past that he would hire a GM “if a championship was guaranteed with that GM.” Which is another way of saying he will never hire a GM while he controls the team. He also wants to continue making as much cash as possible with the team, and tries to balance that with winning. In the Netflix documentary, he says the biggest problem with the team after the 1-15 season was loss of cash flow. He’s extremely talented at marketing and that documentary shows many of the endorsement deals the team struck during their highest success in the 90’s. They have ridden that success (along with the Landry years) to this day.

 

[noshame]

I don't like the term franchise quarterback.
I believe there are elite quarterbacks, average quarterbacks, and below average quarterbacks.
It's all about performing under pressure.

Elite quarterbacks raise their game when the pressure comes making clutch plays that add to their team..
We've had 2.

Average quarterbacks , under pressure, play well enough to get the job done. But seldom make that clutch play to put the team over the top.
We've had 3.

Below average group, when the pressure's on, they just fold their tent.When there's no pressure, they look like all pros, allowing the team to carry them.
We've had many.

If there was a franchise quarterback, I think the criteria would have to be.
1. Spend your entire career with one franchise.
2. Win one or multiple Championships.
3. Represent the team in a positive light on and off the field.
In that case, we've had 2.