Franchise Tag: Demarcus Lawrence & the Salary Cap

[Galian Beast]

There is no difference between you and the people who wanted to pay Dez at any cost.

 

[Stash]

Yes it does. You focus on having a balanced defense across the board. The money you save on not re-signing a guy with huge flags is instead re-allocated across the defense giving you more dollars per play with less risk of injury, suspension, or reduced performance.

Not difficult.

Stupid, not "difficult".

You didn't even think it through enough to present any viable alternatives, did you?

Instead, once again hiding in the grey with your imaginary "$5 million dollar players".

 

[Nightman]

Do you really think that you - someone who created this misguided, misinformed, mess of a thread - should be bringing up the word "facts" right now? If nothing else, it shows a total lack of self awareness.

Facts and he is going to say Romo got benched for Dak

Not that he broke his shoulder in the PS and KMoore broke his foot

Facts......we don't need your stinking facts

 

[Galian Beast]

Stupid, not "difficult".

You didn't even think it through enough to present any viable alternatives, did you?

Instead, once again hiding in the grey with your imaginary "$5 million dollar players".

What grey are you talking about? You keep ignoring arguments to make straw men and referring to some "Grey"

 

[Galian Beast]

Facts and he is going to say Romo got benched for Dak

Not that he broke his shoulder in the PS and KMoore broke his foot

Facts......we don't need your stinking facts

Romo was healthy again and did not resume a starting role... Are you serious?

 

[Stash]

No idea what would make you think this team is poised to win a super bowl next year.

Only on your Credibilty Tombstone.

 

[Stash]

What grey are you talking about? You keep ignoring arguments to make straw men and referring to some "Grey"

The key "facts" that you mistakenly overlook since the start of this misguided endeavor.

Like the "fact" that trading Tyron Smith costs the same - if not more - than franchise tagging Demarcus Lawrence! D'oh! You either didn't know or omitted it because you knew it was terrible. I'm guessing option A, but neither one makes you look good.

Like the "fact" that the "$5 million player" numbers you throw out for replacements don't exist! And you don't and can't provide any of those "names" you want to point to. Lazy or stupid, take your pick.

As I've said numerous times, it's obvious you didn't think any of this through and failed to do the required homework.

Fail.

 

[Nightman]

No idea what would make you think this team is poised to win a super bowl next year.

That is why you are you and keep talking about re-building

Might as well join team @waldoputty and start tanking in Sept

 

[Galian Beast]

The key "facts" that you mistakenly overlook since the start of this misguided endeavor.

Like the "fact" that trading Tyron Smith costs the same - if not more - than franchise tagging Demarcus Lawrence! D'oh! You either didn't know or omitted it because you knew it was terrible. I'm guessing option A, but neither one makes you look good.

Like the "fact" that the "$5 million player" numbers you throw out for replacements don't exist! And you don't and can't provide any of those "names" you want to point to. Lazy or stupid, take your pick.

As I've said numerous times, it's obvious you didn't think any of this through and failed to do the required homework.

Fail.

Yes, keep ignoring everything I said and say it was in the grey or I didn't think about it.

I said it would cost a lot to cut Smith now. I'm the one who said how much it would cost to franchise him, but somehow didn't know how much it would be?

Don't exist? Look at players in 2017 that were signed in that price range... you're clueless.

 

[Galian Beast]

That is why you are you and keep talking about re-building

Might as well join team @waldoputty and start tanking in Sept

There is a difference between tanking and building.

You think we're going to win with the status quo. Guess who will be right this time next year.

 

[Stash]

Yes, keep ignoring everything I said and say it was in the grey or I didn't think about it.

I said it would cost a lot to cut Smith now. I'm the one who said how much it would cost to franchise him, but somehow didn't know how much it would be?

Don't exist? Look at players in 2017 that were signed in that price range... you're clueless.

Yeah, I'm "clueless". While you're the punching bag and court jester of the forum for this. Getting punked and schooled left, right, and center.

You really do need to read that article I sent you. You're a child.

 

[xwalker]

The key "facts" that you mistakenly overlook since the start of this misguided endeavor.

Like the "fact" that trading Tyron Smith costs the same - if not more - than franchise tagging Demarcus Lawrence! D'oh! You either didn't know or omitted it because you knew it was terrible. I'm guessing option A, but neither one makes you look good.

Like the "fact" that the "$5 million player" numbers you throw out for replacements don't exist! And you don't and can't provide any of those "names" you want to point to. Lazy or stupid, take your pick.

As I've said numerous times, it's obvious you didn't think any of this through and failed to do the required homework.

Fail.

He likes the attention even if it's negative.

His posting pattern has amused me for a long time.

He is gone for a long time then shows up and creates multiple threads. He rarely posts in any thread he didn't create.

 

[Galian Beast]

The following players were signed between 5 and 6 million dollars.

Yeah, I'm "clueless". While you're the punching bag and court jester of the forum for this. Getting punked and schooled left, right, and center.

You really do need to read that article I sent you. You're a child.

Mike Remmers RT 28 CAR MIN 5 $30,000,000 $6,000,000
A.J. Klein ILB 26 CAR NO 4 $24,000,000 $6,000,000
Dion Sims TE 26 MIA CHI 3 $18,000,000 $6,000,000
Lawrence Timmons ILB 31 PIT MIA 2 $12,000,000 $6,000,000
Brian Hoyer QB 32 CHI SF 2 $12,000,000 $6,000,000
Josh McCown QB 38 CLE NYJ 1 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
Terrelle Pryor WR 28 CLE WAS 1 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
Brandon Carr CB 31 DAL BAL 4 $23,500,000 $5,875,000
J.C. Tretter C 26 GB CLE 3 $16,750,000 $5,583,333
Sylvester Williams DT 29 DEN TEN 3 $16,500,000 $5,500,000
Darrelle Revis CB 32 NYJ KC 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Jeremy Maclin WR 29 KC BAL 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Nick Foles QB 28 KC PHI 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Markus Wheaton WR 26 PIT CHI 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Brandon Marshall WR 33 NYJ NYG 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Marcus Cooper CB 27 ARI CHI 3 $16,000,000 $5,333,333
Malcolm Smith OLB 28 OAK SF 5 $26,500,000 $5,300,000
Jared Cook TE 30 GB OAK 2 $10,600,000 $5,300,000
Terrell McClain DE 29 DAL WAS 4 $21,000,000 $5,250,000
Kyle Juszczyk FB 26 BAL SF 4 $21,000,000 $5,250,000
Chris Baker DT 30 WAS TB 3 $15,750,000 $5,250,000
Benjamin Ijalana RT 28 NYJ NYJ 2 $10,250,000 $5,125,000
Austin Howard RT 30 OAK BAL 3 $15,025,000 $5,008,333
Stacy McGee DT 27 OAK WAS 5 $25,000,000 $5,000,000
Latavius Murray RB 26 OAK MIN 3 $15,000,000 $5,000,000
Torrey Smith WR 28 SF PHI 3 $15,000,000 $5,000,000
Morris Claiborne CB 27 DAL NYJ 1 $5,000,000 $5,000,000


All players signed between 5-6 million

 

[Galian Beast]

He likes the attention even if it's negative.

His posting pattern has amused me for a long time.

He is gone for a long time then shows up and creates multiple threads. He rarely posts in any thread he didn't create.

You keep saying that, despite it not being true.

The only thing that is true is that I don't post for long periods of time. It's called having a job and other priorities.

 

[Stash]

He likes the attention even if it's negative.

His posting pattern has amused me for a long time.

He is gone for a long time then shows up and creates multiple threads. He rarely posts in any thread he didn't create.

But the sheer lack of awareness when everybody is pointing out the obvious mistakes?

That's truly kid stuff.

 

[Galian Beast]

But the sheer lack of awareness when everybody is pointing out the obvious mistakes?

That's truly kid stuff.

The more people arguing the same point doesn't make the point any more valid. You do realize this right?

It's the exact same argument people made to re-sign Dez. They were wrong then just as you are now.

 

[Stash]

The following players were signed between 5 and 6 million dollars.



Mike Remmers RT 28 CAR MIN 5 $30,000,000 $6,000,000
A.J. Klein ILB 26 CAR NO 4 $24,000,000 $6,000,000
Dion Sims TE 26 MIA CHI 3 $18,000,000 $6,000,000
Lawrence Timmons ILB 31 PIT MIA 2 $12,000,000 $6,000,000
Brian Hoyer QB 32 CHI SF 2 $12,000,000 $6,000,000
Josh McCown QB 38 CLE NYJ 1 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
Terrelle Pryor WR 28 CLE WAS 1 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
Brandon Carr CB 31 DAL BAL 4 $23,500,000 $5,875,000
J.C. Tretter C 26 GB CLE 3 $16,750,000 $5,583,333
Sylvester Williams DT 29 DEN TEN 3 $16,500,000 $5,500,000
Darrelle Revis CB 32 NYJ KC 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Jeremy Maclin WR 29 KC BAL 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Nick Foles QB 28 KC PHI 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Markus Wheaton WR 26 PIT CHI 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Brandon Marshall WR 33 NYJ NYG 2 $11,000,000 $5,500,000
Marcus Cooper CB 27 ARI CHI 3 $16,000,000 $5,333,333
Malcolm Smith OLB 28 OAK SF 5 $26,500,000 $5,300,000
Jared Cook TE 30 GB OAK 2 $10,600,000 $5,300,000
Terrell McClain DE 29 DAL WAS 4 $21,000,000 $5,250,000
Kyle Juszczyk FB 26 BAL SF 4 $21,000,000 $5,250,000
Chris Baker DT 30 WAS TB 3 $15,750,000 $5,250,000
Benjamin Ijalana RT 28 NYJ NYJ 2 $10,250,000 $5,125,000
Austin Howard RT 30 OAK BAL 3 $15,025,000 $5,008,333
Stacy McGee DT 27 OAK WAS 5 $25,000,000 $5,000,000
Latavius Murray RB 26 OAK MIN 3 $15,000,000 $5,000,000
Torrey Smith WR 28 SF PHI 3 $15,000,000 $5,000,000
Morris Claiborne CB 27 DAL NYJ 1 $5,000,000 $5,000,000


All players signed between 5-6 million

I think you posted the wrong "list". There's no left tackles or double-digit sack guys anywhere on this one.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think you posted the wrong "list". There's no left tackles or double-digit sack guys anywhere on this one.

Boom and there we have it.

You continue to not understand a very simple argument.

The argument isn't and never was that you could replace either one these players and their production and talent with ONE player who makes 5-6 million a year...

That was laughable dude.

 

[Galian Beast]

Some choice quotes from my OP which you didn't read that might help you out..



I'm sure it won't be popular, but I say you let Lawrence (9?) walk and let someone else give him his big payday and instead pick up the comp pick. Draft a defensive end in the first round and trade up if you have to, to get the right guy. Then you hope that Taco Charlton wasn't the boneheaded draft choice I think he was and pair the two together for the next 4 years.

2018 Draft Priorities
1. DE
2. T (if Tyron Smith is moved)

5. Take the major hit and cut Tyrone Crawford now. Sign a free agent NT in free agency. Would like to look at Dontari Poe.

 

[Stash]

The more people arguing the same point doesn't make the point any more valid. You do realize this right?

And when everyone tells you you're wrong, you should strongly consider that fact.

"You do realize this right?"

It's the exact same argument people made to re-sign Dez. They were wrong then just as you are now.

Sure it is. You're the lone voice of reason amid a sea of cluelessness.

Oh vey.