Franco Harris' Job "On Hold" In Light Of Scandal

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Even a dope like Ashton Kutcher had the good sense to retract.
 

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burmafrd;4250804 said:
It was an idiotic comment and stupidity should always carry a price.

No it shouldn't. He voiced his opinion on the matter. Regardless of how any might feel about him or if they disagree with his opinion, no one should give assent to men being fired for voicing an opinion.

It's more offensive than anything he said in that comment.
 

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vta;4250826 said:
No it shouldn't. He voiced his opinion on the matter. Regardless of how any might feel about him or if they disagree with his opinion, no one should give assent to men being fired for voicing an opinion.

It's more offensive than anything he said in that comment.
When you're job is public relations, your employer has every right to fire you if you voice an opinion that upsets and offends a great number of people.

Are they overreacting in this case? Maybe, maybe not. But I sure don't blame 'em for wanting to steer as clear of this crapstorm as possible.
 

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The reverberations of this horrible crime are gonna be felt for a long time.
 

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Rogah;4250840 said:
When you're job is public relations, your employer has every right to fire you if you voice an opinion that upsets and offends a great number of people.

Are they overreacting in this case? Maybe, maybe not. But I sure don't blame 'em for wanting to steer as clear of this crapstorm as possible.

Maybe people should not be offended. He didn't defend pedophilia, he commented on Penn States reaction to Paterno. I wouldn't defend Paterno or Penn State, because it's not about that, he simply voiced his opinion on that issue and no one should be offended.

I won't agree with it no matter what the argument. People shouldn't be fired for voicing their opinion.
 

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vta;4250850 said:
Maybe people should not be offended. He didn't defend pedophilia, he commented on Penn States reaction to Paterno. I wouldn't defend Paterno or Penn State, because it's not about that, he simply voiced his opinion on that issue and no one should be offended.

I won't agree with it no matter what the argument. People shouldn't be fired for voicing their opinion.

I agree with VTA ..... there was nothing wrong with defending the football program of Penn State.
 

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Harris stood up for what he believed was right and was willing to pay the price for it. ... I've got no problems with that.

(I also have no problem with the casino putting their arrangement on hold.)

The Casino, interestingly, is located in Sandusky's home town.
Odd.
 

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zrinkill;4250855 said:
I agree with VTA ..... there was nothing wrong with defending the football program of Penn State.

I don't think it is about it being right or wrong. It is about the casino not wanting to have to deal with that stuff at this moment.
 

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vta;4250826 said:
No it shouldn't. He voiced his opinion on the matter. Regardless of how any might feel about him or if they disagree with his opinion, no one should give assent to men being fired for voicing an opinion.

It's more offensive than anything he said in that comment.

Completely incorrect.
 

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The Casino has every right to hire and fire who they want.

But firing a guy for his defense of a football program is on par with firing someone for their political position as defending Joe Paterno, Penn State and the program is now politically incorrect and can lead to public vilification. As I have found out.
 

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zrinkill;4250855 said:
I agree with VTA ..... there was nothing wrong with defending the football program of Penn State.

MANY Employment contracts are drafted with conduct and media allowances. You can provide support without using the media to do it.

He had every "right" to speak, and a private complay has every right to fire an employee/contractor if they feel the contract was violated.

He doesn't seem too work up about losing his "gambling" spokeshole role
 

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IMO, if he *just* supported Paterno as his old coach; it would have been fine. The fact that he bashed the school who is trying to do the right thing was crossing the line.

Sometimes it's better to just shut the **** up. :facepalm:

He has the right to an opinion. He can sue the Casino for firing him. Stating an opinion is not illegal. It's a protected right.
 

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Sam I Am;4251018 said:
IMO, if he *just* supported Paterno as his old coach; it would have been fine. The fact that he bashed the school who is trying to do the right thing was crossing the line.

Sometimes it's better to just shut the **** up. :facepalm:

He has the right to an opinion. He can sue the Casino for firing him. Stating an opinion is not illegal. It's a protected right.


well you might do a little search and find out no one ever won a case like that.

The company has a RIGHT to fire someone who can cause damage to the business. They felt that was the case and who can really disagree with that?

He was not prevented from speaking- that was the only way it could be illegal or court worthy. He was penalized for saying something really dumb at this time.
 

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Sam I Am;4251018 said:
IMO, if he *just* supported Paterno as his old coach; it would have been fine. The fact that he bashed the school who is trying to do the right thing was crossing the line.

Sometimes it's better to just shut the **** up. :facepalm:

He has the right to an opinion. He can sue the Casino for firing him. Stating an opinion is not illegal. It's a protected right.

If your statements/stances are going to hurt business instead of help business, you could and should be fired.
 

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casmith07;4251245 said:
If your statements/stances are going to hurt business instead of help business, you could and should be fired.

Odds are, nobody that frequents that casino cares. Odds are, nobody would care no matter who he worked for.
 

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burmafrd;4251147 said:
well you might do a little search and find out no one ever won a case like that.

I call BS.

btw, I is probably more damaging to seek this type of lawsuit, though I would threaten one and demands severance. That he can definitely get. If they don't give in, they are would be the morons.
 

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Hey he can stick up for what whatever he wants.

And get fired for it too.
 

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Sam I Am;4251303 said:
Odds are, nobody that frequents that casino cares. Odds are, nobody would care no matter who he worked for.

Odds are one person cared who writes checks - the important one.

Sam I Am;4251306 said:
I call BS.

btw, I is probably more damaging to seek this type of lawsuit, though I would threaten one and demands severance. That he can definitely get. If they don't give in, they are would be the morons.

Severance wouldn't apply to contractors. It is likely that most celebrity spokepeople are paid as independent contractors and not "salaried" full-time employees.

If it is the former, he should have a termination clause in his contract, if it is the latter, length of employment is almost always a factor in severance and there are state laws.

Odds are he was an independent contractor with a hold harmless right to terminate clause.

Meaning..he likely got "put your elevator FOB key on the table here is a token for then parking garage."
 
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