Free and the right side of the OL

[jobberone]

I looked at the All 22.....once. I did not see anyone helping out the right side of the OL. They took their natural gap control and stances. Both did reasonably well in the run game. I did not look at their overall grade but just whether one player or the other was working to help one another outside normal blocking patterns. I just did not see that.

We just made too many mistakes and I personally did not like the play calling at all. We ran too much on first down. It's difficult to say we should be throwing to the inside more as I'm not an expert at looking at NFL defenses. In fact I did not pay a lot of attention to how the DBs played us. I'll go back and do that if I find the time.

I came away with the general feeling that we are closer to Philly than I thought but we gave up too many big plays and did not get enough pressure. We got beat too much in the run game as well. But we didn't get rolled in the second half but the same observations hold true. A little bit more pressure, better run defense esp the DL, and fewer mistakes will make a decent game, IMO.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Hush... That's not what we've been told...

 

[jobberone]

Looked at Spencer and Selvie. Despite the sentiment on the board Spencer is clearly the better player although both are upgradeable at present. I'd use Selvie on passing downs as long as he gets keeps containment which he ain't. Spencer is a better SDE now. He's stronger, has a better bull rush and plays with a bit more discipline although he ain't a paragon of virtue at that either. Spencer is getting closer to the QB.

I think if you add Melton, Mincey, and Spencer as the primary rotators at end and use Selvie more in rushing downs then that'd help....some. Add Lawrence in there as needed but I did not look at him yet.

Some Philly thoughts.

1. We overpursue and Philly is great at going where we ain't. They have the art of running to daylight down pretty good. We looked like we tried to scheme that some with the SDE jumping inside some and they'd just run it outside. Philly is too quick for that stuff. They've got to turn it up inside and play the run better while allowing the LBers to flow to the ball. They are biting on fakes and misdirections too much. Philly is built for that stuff. It's mickey mouse but very effective with all the huge guys along the line. You've got big bodies with high COGs and high polar moment of inertia trying to dance with scatterbugs.

2. We shouldn't be playing zone but drapped all over the receivers and knocking them off their routes. We're dropping too deep and allowing too many intermediate routes. I hate that WCO crap because its not real FB but they make teams look stupid with it. I swear Rice played a few downs in a Philly uniform with that crossing and slant stuff. Very sneaky IMO and marginally legal.

3. Our DL gets gashed too often. We spread the plays out reasonably well but they are hitting the open daylight too often. Again it's over RT like last year.

4. Our DBs take bad angles.

5. Our LBers are too slow. We miss a healthy Lee and Durant who has Carter speed. I didn't watch the LBers much.

6. Wilcox can make some plays as can Church. Just not enough and did I mention bad angles.

I'll look at it a few more times but we aren't as bad as some here think just not as good as we'd all like. Unless the offense goes on a huge 35+ points a game, we get a pass rush, get more TOs and play the pass a little better then we is in trouble.

 

[waving monkey]

thanks Jobberone

 

[jobberone]

thanks Jobberone

YW

 

[DogFace]

Looked at Spencer and Selvie. Despite the sentiment on the board Spencer is clearly the better player although both are upgradeable at present. I'd use Selvie on passing downs as long as he gets keeps containment which he ain't. Spencer is a better SDE now. He's stronger, has a better bull rush and plays with a bit more discipline although he ain't a paragon of virtue at that either. Spencer is getting closer to the QB.

I think if you add Melton, Mincey, and Spencer as the primary rotators at end and use Selvie more in rushing downs then that'd help....some. Add Lawrence in there as needed but I did not look at him yet.

Some Philly thoughts.

1. We overpursue and Philly is great at going where we ain't. They have the art of running to daylight down pretty good. We looked like we tried to scheme that some with the SDE jumping inside some and they'd just run it outside. Philly is too quick for that stuff. They've got to turn it up inside and play the run better while allowing the LBers to flow to the ball. They are biting on fakes and misdirections too much. Philly is built for that stuff. It's mickey mouse but very effective with all the huge guys along the line. You've got big bodies with high COGs and high polar moment of inertia trying to dance with scatterbugs.

2. We shouldn't be playing zone but drapped all over the receivers and knocking them off their routes. We're dropping too deep and allowing too many intermediate routes. I hate that WCO crap because its not real FB but they make teams look stupid with it. I swear Rice played a few downs in a Philly uniform with that crossing and slant stuff. Very sneaky IMO and marginally legal.

3. Our DL gets gashed too often. We spread the plays out reasonably well but they are hitting the open daylight too often. Again it's over RT like last year.

4. Our DBs take bad angles.

5. Our LBers are too slow. We miss a healthy Lee and Durant who has Carter speed. I didn't watch the LBers much.

6. Wilcox can make some plays as can Church. Just not enough and did I mention bad angles.

I'll look at it a few more times but we aren't as bad as some here think just not as good as we'd all like. Unless the offense goes on a huge 35+ points a game, we get a pass rush, get more TOs and play the pass a little better then we is in trouble.

What do you mean marginally legal? Like close to picks? Or what

To your first post I feel the 10 days rest will make all the difference.

 

[jobberone]

What do you mean marginally legal? Like close to picks? Or what

To your first post I feel the 10 days rest will make all the difference.

Excuse my poor attempt at humor. I was talking about Jerry Rice sneaking onto the field in a Philly uniform. I know; poor joke.

Speaking of picks I think that we should be using rubs, not picks, to get open more. This is the trend of the league and we aren't taking advantage of it.

 

[Crown Royal]

Excuse my poor attempt at humor. I was talking about Jerry Rice sneaking onto the field in a Philly uniform. I know; poor joke.

Speaking of picks I think that we should be using rubs, not picks, to get open more. This is the trend of the league and we aren't taking advantage of it.

We've used it a couple of times with witten & beasley.

 

[Gaede]

More and more lately, the defense resembles last years.

Failure across the board on all three levels (DL, lb, and S). So much so that fans can't even pinpoint what went wrong, but can only provide posts detailing a litany of issues.

I'm worried that the defense we all expected this year is finally showing up.

 

[CyberB0b]

More and more lately, the defense resembles last years.

Failure across the board on all three levels (DL, lb, and S). So much so that fans can't even pinpoint what went wrong, but can only provide posts detailing a litany of issues.

I'm worried that the defense we all expected this year is finally showing up.

Reversion to the mean.

 

[Gridiron Man]

I think everyone is well aware that our defense has been dependent upon our offense to keep them fresh and off the field. In turn, this also keeps the opponent's offense on the sidelines as well. This tactic keeps us in the game as long as we are converting on third downs, running the ball, dominating in time of possession and taking the ball to the end zone. As of late the offense has struggled to convert on third downs and fails to find the end zone. I think our early success has mostly to do with facing average to below average teams.

There is no way we are going to beat a high powered offense, unless our offense can execute as well as it had earlier in the season against lesser teams. Let's face it, our defense needs to step up and our offense has to keep pace, or were doomed.

 

[CF74]

Do you think maybe we ran the ball more because it was a short week and Romo just didn't have enough time to recover from the previous game?

 

[BigStar]

I looked at the All 22.....once. I did not see anyone helping out the right side of the OL. They took their natural gap control and stances. Both did reasonably well in the run game. I did not look at their overall grade but just whether one player or the other was working to help one another outside normal blocking patterns. I just did not see that.

We just made too many mistakes and I personally did not like the play calling at all. We ran too much on first down. It's difficult to say we should be throwing to the inside more as I'm not an expert at looking at NFL defenses. In fact I did not pay a lot of attention to how the DBs played us. I'll go back and do that if I find the time.

I came away with the general feeling that we are closer to Philly than I thought but we gave up too many big plays and did not get enough pressure. We got beat too much in the run game as well. But we didn't get rolled in the second half but the same observations hold true. A little bit more pressure, better run defense esp the DL, and fewer mistakes will make a decent game, IMO.

When you re-watch, could you try to see if the Safeties are playing a kind of high-low shaded man-1 or something similar in Dez's direction. Otherwise, man coverage shouldn't stop mid routes like deep ins or mid level crosses above dropping LBs, not to mention pick routes that could negate even bracket coverage if done correctly (GB/NE). Not saying I'm some expert either but there are clues that even fans can determine for themselves without needing to coach professionally, etc. Linney/JG obv "have to" have a reason right not to

 

[jobberone]

We've used it a couple of times with witten & beasley.

A bit not much that I remember.