Free Press: Detroit fans response to Roy Williams comments in Austin

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The article is mostly a rehash of the Star-Telegram story, but the fans reactions that follow can sometimes be very interesting. Some are realistic; most are not:

Roy Williams: Wants to be a Lion, but not opposed to playing with T.O.

FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES • April 8, 2008

Receiver Roy Williams once again has reiterated he wants to stay a Detroit Lion, but is unsure if the team will pay him.

Speaking at his alma mater Texas to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram over the weekend, Williams said, "Of course I want to stay in Detroit. Everybody wants to stay with the team that drafted them. They are telling me I am going to be a Lion for at least one more season. That’s what I have on my mind."

The Star-Telegram quoted an anonymous source close to Williams that said the Lion wants play for the Cowboys if he wasn’t in Detroit.

When asked if he would like to play for the Cowboys, Williams said, "Man you know I can’t answer that question."

Williams is in the final year of his contract and the Lions have yet to approach him about an extension. They could franchise tag him and guarantee him a one-year big payday in 2009.

"Could they pay me? Yes," Williams said. "Will they pay me? That’s the question that needs to be answered. If I get franchised, I get franchised. If they want to go in another direction that is part of the business."

The Cowboys are in search of a veteran receiver. And Williams’ uncertain status makes him a prime target for a possible draft-day trade.

"I have thought about all of that," Williams said. "I just do what I do. I am getting prepared for the season. ... If things don’t work out, I wouldn’t mind playing anywhere. ... It’s a little disappointing. That’s the nature of this business. Whatever they do with me, they do with me."

Lions coach Rod Marinelli told the Detroit Free Press recently the Lions won't trade Williams.

“I’ll say it again," Marinelli said, "he’s not going anywhere. No. There’s no way. Like I’ve said, I want to see those two big trees (Williams and Calvin Johnson) playing together."

Williams grew up in Texas and was a Cowboys fan. He said he would have no problem playing with Owens or namesake safety Roy Williams.

"I could see myself playing with anybody," Williams told the Fort Worth paper. "Everybody talks about T.O. All T.O. wants to do is win. If he don’t get any balls and you win, you won’t hear nothing from him. But if you don’t win, you are going to hear from him but that goes with any big-time receiver. You want to help your team win. If you don’t, you are going to be (upset). And with Roy, at least I don’t have to worry about that hit. They have a good football team."

Williams told the Free Press on March 25: "If they want to make me a Lion for life, I'm good with that. If not, I'm just going to play my type of ball and see what happens after that."

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timma wrote:
You are all way to trigger happy. I agree we need to trade Williams, but he was a #7 pick. If you use the draft day value chart (which they will be using) he would have been worth 1500 points as a "rookie prospect". He is now a valuable veteran (and should be valued slightly higher). Dallas would need to offer up BOTH first round picks, #22 and #28 (worth 780 and 660 respectively) to even be in the ballpark. That STILL falls short of his 1500 "draft-day, prospect value". Remember, we are giving up a proven top-10 pick for two low first round prospects. In all honest, we should be getting both first round picks and a fourth to make it a fair trade (based on the value chart). Plus, we owe him more in bonus that salary this year. Getting rid of Williams actually hurts our "cap crisis".
4/8/2008 12:24:36 PM

TheCaptain19 wrote:
Iknowbetter, Roy Williams isn't exactly a Randy Moss or TO or a Marvin Harrison. It's a completely different situation. He is more like Donte Stallworth and the Patriots let him go.
4/8/2008 12:03:52 PM

IKNOWBETTER wrote:
WOULD THE COLTS NOT RESIGN MARVIN HARRISON?? WOULD THE PATS NOT RE SIGN RANDY MOSS??? WHAT ABOUT T.O. THINK DALLAS WOULD RE SIGN HIM??? WHAT IS DETROIT THINKING, YOU GIVE THIS GUY A 5 OR 6 YEAR DEAL AND LOCK HIM IN FOR HIS PRIME?? MATT MILLEN IS A JOKE AND THE LIONS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A TAX WRITE OFF TO THE FORD FAMILY. YOU MUST RESIGN ROY. YOU DO NOT LET HIM WALK. CALVIN JOHNSON IS NOT ROY WILLIAMS. ROY WILL RISK DEATH TO MAKE THE CATCH. HES LIKE DON BEEBE, HE WILL RISK IT ALL FOR THAT BALL.
4/8/2008 11:40:17 AM

rabababa wrote:
How about Flozell?
4/8/2008 10:37:59 AM

rabababa wrote:
Trade away our only ray of sun? Only for the other Roy Williams!
4/8/2008 10:36:27 AM

Seer1963 wrote:
The Lions are at a crossroads this year if the players they picked up that know the Tampa 2 and the problem children they got rid of can be an improvement than we just need to worry about fewer things. If Stanton is healthy he can push Kitna for the starting job competition there would be a welcome sight. Oline and dline are much needed. We need to open holes for our RB and protect our QB better. We also need to pressure the other teams QB's and start suffing the other teams RB's. If we can do this and it would require gettting rid of WR like roy williams who can talk a good game but falls short on production in key situations then I am for it.
4/8/2008 9:32:04 AM

ruffaroundedges wrote:
Teams will lowball the Lions since they are aware of the contract issue...the Lions will not get fair value, but still may need to make a move
4/8/2008 9:30:05 AM

ruffaroundedges wrote:
Roy is gone in 09'. There are many superior franchises that will throw him the same if not more money..the Lions need to trade him while they can still get some decent value for him. If we can get Dallas's first rounder and turn into a solid MLB choice like the kid outta Penn State Connor..may be worth it..gamble cuz of trading a proven for an unproven..but again, ROy will be gone in 09'.
4/8/2008 9:28:59 AM

youngsco wrote:
i love roy but if Dallas offers a 1st rnd pick and a 2nd or 3rd rounder than i think you have to take that. As much as i would like to see Roy stay we have to many holes to patch up that those picks would allow us to do. Marinelli will find the right type of players hes looking for in the draft. Roy and Furrey did a great job in 06 and I think Furrey and Johnson could have comparable #s if not better. I would even take a 1st rounder and 1 of their top d lineman for roy, but i doubt Dallas is willing to give upt hat much.
4/8/2008 9:04:13 AM

kevs88 wrote:
Why are all of these haters out here mad because Roy obviously want's out of here? Who in their right mind would want to play for the Lions? They aren't going anywhere, haven't won nothing and are constantly rebuilding. And to play for your hometown team, a team that has won and will win. I know I'd take less money if I were Roy. Just so I could say that "Its not about the money, It's about winning and also being within a class organization with superior ownership and management." Who wouldn't want that?
4/8/2008 8:30:24 AM

iceman721 wrote:
As someone said earlier football is a business. This team has enough holes that if you can get one of Dallas' #1 picks for Roy then you make the trade. Period. I like Roy but business is business. Why would any GM with this roster not want to get your RB or OT in the first round then come back later in the round with another first and pick up Dan Connor then add more talent in the 2nd round and have 2 3rd rd picks also. That should be a draft you could get at least 3 starters in and maybe one or two Pro Bowlers. No one person is larger than the team as a whole. Now with all that being said it won't happen because this is the Lions and Millen so if it makes sense or would be good for the whole team it won't happen.
4/8/2008 8:28:23 AM

camero89 wrote:
I hope you get life as a lion,we love you Roy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
4/8/2008 8:17:07 AM

StAls wrote:
Why is it that the Lions can't retain any kind of consistency? Roy Williams could be a great receiver if he saw that the Lions organization gave a twit. The Lions organization is always in a quandry. They can't maintain any resemblance to a winning football team. The management of this team is like the stock market during hard times. Volitile: (1) evaporating rapidly & (2) liable to change quickly & unpredictably. Yes sir that our Lions. Year after miserable year. I'd love for the FREEP to pass this on to Matt Millen and the rest of what is referred to as the Lions. Roy another Matt Millen draft choice may just be "Another one bites the dust" choice.
4/8/2008 8:15:52 AM

VoiceofReason99 wrote:
Given Millen's understanding of talent...he will probably offer Roy to Atlanta for Joey Harrington as we will probably need another experienced quarterback when Kitna gets his bell rung next season.......
4/8/2008 7:59:34 AM

justme1000 wrote:
(Part 3 of 3)...Dallas has two first rd picks this year...#22 & #28. Don't be surprised if they offer Detroit #28 and a 3rd/4th rd for Roy. If they do, the Lions will cut their losses and take the deal because Roy's stock will never be higher to them and they know it. They know Roy is going to want Tier I money next year for a contract and they know he is not worth RMoss/TO/Burress type money and rightfully so. Franchise him and he pouts and you may have him on the roster but his lackadasial effort returns as punishment.
4/8/2008 7:58:06 AM

Lion4Life78 wrote:
You guys don't think before you post do you? First no one is giving up two number 1's for a WR. I don't care who the WR is. Second if you get rid of Roy you make your team worst. Putting Calvin and Roy together you keep the other team from putting 8 in the box and you improve your run game. This is a contract year which means it's probably going to be one of Roy's best. Plus we still haven't seen exactly what Calvin can do yet. As far as the celebration goes it's refreshing to see someone that is excited playing. Roy has been a good WR, a good player in lockeroom, he doesn't get into off the field situations, he could be holding out like a lot of players do in contract years but instead he is going though all workouts to make the team better.
4/8/2008 7:57:42 AM

justme1000 wrote:
(Part 2 of 3)...Roy had a chance to excel in that offense and was his own worse enemy when it counted. How in the world do you think he is going to react when less balls come his way now because the Lions will run the ball 20-30 times a game and want to get CJ more involved along with a TE? The last reason Roy will be traded is because the Lions say he won't be traded. How many times have we seen this scenario pan out? Sure Rod would love the Roy that ran down the field without his helmet, but with that effort shown only 1-2 times per season, Rod can ill afford that luxury and he knows it.
4/8/2008 7:57:22 AM

Motownmann wrote:
I don't know if anyone really noticed this...but re-read the last line of Roy's quote...And with Roy, at least I don?t have to worry about that hit. They have a good football team." If the lights are not for us fans before..they should be now...he just told us what we already knew...we suck. I still love my Lions, but I am not encouraged by this line of talk from our superstar.
4/8/2008 7:56:15 AM

justme1000 wrote:
(Part I of 3)...Why Roy will be shopped to Dallas on draft day: Lions are in process of a complete overhaul. There is still a couple of remaining tumors to the previous Millenoma. Roy is one of those tumors. he said it himself..."I didn't study as hard as I should have." Roy, you also didn't put forth the effort on a regular basis like you should have. Pulling up short on routes, short arming the ball/dropping the ball in key 3rd down situations. Plus you took yourself out of games saying you were injured when the med staff said you were hurt but not injured. Roy was one of the biggest Martz's supporters, now he is more or less glad he is gone. Why? because Martz jumped on him for not doing his job so Roy pouts?
4/8/2008 7:55:25 AM

lionsfan4lyfe wrote:
Jesus!!! Football is a business fellas, and if the man has to play somewhere else, we guess what, he will. He is a talented receiver, he is the best receiver they have and please, don't even pull that Shaun McDonald and Mike Furrey are comparable. They're not!!! Lions, please resign William and shut these fools up! I'm done with these trade talks, there is no one player that they could draft in the late first round or ANY OTHER ROUND that would be as good as to Williams.
4/8/2008 7:53:55 AM

alliask wrote:
Does it really make any difference what they do? They are losers.
4/8/2008 7:28:05 AM

justme1000 wrote:
Pay you for what? First down signals when your down by 28? Trade this clown and lets be done with it. One of the last remaining tumors on this team. He said it himself..."I didn't study as hard as I should have." Now you expect to be compensated? People often confuse the best player on the Lions (which really isn't saying much) vs the actual NFL WR talent. Save me "he went to the probowl." No, he was an alternate that was named AFTER the guy he replaced stated he wasn't going. He wants to go but won't come out and say it. Go Roy. He is leaving next year and if the franchise tag is used he will be gone for sure without nothing in return. If your going to clean house and rebuild, do a complete job...for to long all we did under Millen is just add new coats of paint.
4/8/2008 7:14:34 AM

Seer1963 wrote:
He has no trouble playing for another team ...good make the deal get as many picks as you can at least 1 first rounder and go from there. get the guy out of here Then fill the rest of the holes on our team. Williams doesn't come through when the pressure is on so what would be missing?
4/8/2008 7:01:40 AM

JJDIDTIEBUCKLE wrote:
Well no *****. That is why the Lions should have traded him long ago. Where are all the idiots that were saying "it would be the biggest mistake". I don't think well miss his "Down by 40 first down celebrations".
4/8/2008 6:55:15 AM

KalEl27 wrote:
I understand his sentiment, but honestly, does anyone actually think he wants to remain on a team with little chance of accomplishing anything except getting out of the cellar in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL?
4/8/2008 6:27:20 AM

brooks13 wrote:
If the cowboys are offering there two 1st round picks, you do the deal!!!! hey, roy is a great player no doubt... but the lions are not going anywhere, unless Stanton comes in and pulls a brett farve and its bombs away plus there are some decent players at wide receiver on the roster Mcdonald,Furrey both just as fast as Roy,Roy,Roy.. make this trade!!!!!
4/8/2008 5:33:18 AM

millenmustdie wrote:
maybe matt can get a 5th or 6th rounder for him
4/8/2008 5:16:09 AM

TheDrizzle wrote:
Can they trade him for some pitching for the Tigers?
4/8/2008 4:54:52 AM

azio0818 wrote:
just re- sign the guy now they better not trade the only star caliber player .well lions logic says they will just give him away next year
4/8/2008 4:04:29 AM

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Lions fans are all over the board in their reactions to him. Why can't they be unified like Cowboys fans...


...oh wait...


...never mind.
 

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Hostile;2028809 said:
Lions fans are all over the board in their reactions to him. Why can't they be unified like Cowboys fans...


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...never mind.

:laugh1:
 

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Hostile;2028809 said:
Lions fans are all over the board in their reactions to him. Why can't they be unified like Cowboys fans...


...oh wait...


...never mind.

What can I say --we try to get along ---its just those people who bring up Roy and Greg and Pacman and Quincy and TO and Jessica and you know Jerry
 

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justbob;2028840 said:
What can I say --we try to get along ---its just those people who bring up Roy and Greg and Pacman and Quincy and TO and Jessica and you know Jerry


pretty much every thing is a sensitive issue on cowboys boards these days , football starved cowboys fans can be very hostile this time of year:lmao:
 

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millenmustdie wrote:
maybe matt can get a 5th or 6th rounder for him
4/8/2008 5:16:09 AM


I want that guy pulling the trigger on the Roy Williams trade.
 

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jswalker1981;2029198 said:
millenmustdie wrote:
maybe matt can get a 5th or 6th rounder for him
4/8/2008 5:16:09 AM


I want that guy pulling the trigger on the Roy Williams trade.
Yeah he was pretty much my hero in that list too.
 

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Hostile;2029254 said:
Yeah he was pretty much my hero in that list too.

Heck, I'd give up our fifth AND our sixth for Roy... how can Millen turn THAT down?? :D
 

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The one who cracked me up, the most, was the idiot, at the top, who thinks that the trading of players is done by draft day value charts. If he thinks Roy is honestly going to get you 2 #1's and a 4th rounder, when Moss left Oakland for a 4, then he's out of his mind.

Gotta love people who have zero clue how that stuff goes down. The draft value charts are for trading picks, not players to picks.
 

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The most likely scenario is that Dallas gives the Lions their second first rounder and the Lions then Draft a Wide Receiver with that pick.
 

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With a little digging, I managed to obtain a copy of Detroits first round grades:

Matt Millen’s First Round Prospects

1. Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
2. Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
3. James Hardy, WR, Indiana
4. DeSean Jackson, WR, California
5. Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
6. Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
7. Early Doucet, WR, LSU
8. Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
9. Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
10. Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
11. *Felix Jones, RB, Oklahoma
12. Lavelle Hawkins, WR, California
13. Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State
14. Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech
15. Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina
16. Ryan Grice-Millen, WR, Hawaii
17. Donnie Avery, WR, Houston
18. Will Franklin, WR, Missouri
19. Marcus Henry, WR, Kansas
20. *Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
21. Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
22. Pierre Garcon, WR, Mount Union
23. Jaymar Johnson, WR, Jackson State
24. Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
25. Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky
26. D. J. Hall, WR, Alabama
27. Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
28. Josh Morgan, WR, Virginia Tech
29. Kenneth Moore, WR, Wake Forest
30. Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
31. Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma

*Can be converted to Wide-Receiver
 

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Joe Rod;2029633 said:
With a little digging, I managed to obtain a copy of Detroits first round grades:

Matt Millen’s First Round Prospects

1. Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
2. Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
3. James Hardy, WR, Indiana
4. DeSean Jackson, WR, California
5. Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
6. Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
7. Early Doucet, WR, LSU
8. Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
9. Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
10. Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
11. *Felix Jones, RB, Oklahoma
12. Lavelle Hawkins, WR, California
13. Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State
14. Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech
15. Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina
16. Ryan Grice-Millen, WR, Hawaii
17. Donnie Avery, WR, Houston
18. Will Franklin, WR, Missouri
19. Marcus Henry, WR, Kansas
20. *Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
21. Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
22. Pierre Garcon, WR, Mount Union
23. Jaymar Johnson, WR, Jackson State
24. Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
25. Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky
26. D. J. Hall, WR, Alabama
27. Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
28. Josh Morgan, WR, Virginia Tech
29. Kenneth Moore, WR, Wake Forest
30. Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
31. Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma

*Can be converted to Wide-Receiver


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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