Friendly wager on Jaylon Smith

[joshjwp]

I think he will be somewhere between a 3 and a 4 this year and somewhere between a 5 and a 6 next year. If I have to put 1 number on it I'll say 3.5 (cearly better than the other LBs but not on Lee's level yet)...Btw I think Lee is a 5 or 6 not a 4.

 

[cowboyblue22]

3

 

[xwalker]

By now, I think almost everyone think Jaylon will play next year.
The question is how well.
The only information we have is that Jaylon said he is running a 4.4/4.5.
The other info are the videos of his rehab that looks good to me, but I am no expert.
I have yet to hear an expert comment on the cutting and drills...

But I thought it would be fun for at least some of us to guess what we get next year.
So please select from the following choices:
1. Cut from camp / IR
2. Backup
3. Starter but similar to other LBs others than Lee.
4. Marginal probowler like Lee was this year (though there was the all-pro...)
5. Definite probowler
6. Generational player in the 1st year.

My guess is 4 - marginal probowler.

What is your prediction???

BTW, the fact is that most of us think he will play is already better than many have predicted.

So good that they create a new category just for him. Generational All Pro.

 

[phildadon86]

I didn't take Jaylon's tweet to NECESSARILY mean he was running a 4.4 40 now but possibly that he was simply saying he was getting some of his speed back and referencing his previous 4.4 40 time (I suspect the last time he ran a 4.4 40 was a while before he put on a lot of weight, like high school or freshman years). If he ever ran a 4.4 at 235-240..well that is pretty darned impressive. But anyway, I took his tweet to me focusing in and improving my speed right now despite still running a 5.1 40 but basically saying "I'm getting closer to the speed I once had" back in college when I could run about 4.5.

I'm a big fan of Jaylon's now, he's clearly a fantastic person and determined to overcome adversity and a real RKG you want to pull for. That said, I'll be honest, I didn't see the reason for as much hype as he got about being a top 5 pick prior to the injury. Clearly an amazing athlete with a rare size/speed combo but I never would've pegged him top 10, didn't see a Kuechly-like LB. Jaylon's most tackles in a season was lower than Kuechly's lowest year. I could see Jaylon having a monster impact and be a clear upgrade over Hitchens as a run and hit, don't think just go-find-the-ball guy as long as Sean Lee is Qb'ing the defense, but I never saw top 5 or even 10, esp considering how the draft values the LB position. Of course, if he can be another Jordan Hicks (and conversely knock Wentz out for a season) that'd be great.
Of course this coming from someone who didn't see Dak as anything more than a backup.

I will claim Elliott though, I called him as OROY before the 5th pick of the draft was made haha.


but to the OP question, I'm going with a 3-3.5.

Jaylon won the hardest award to win for a defender in college ball. I think he's a little more than ok.

 

[waldoputty]

Here is a 'plot' of the results so far:

1 Injured/cut - bodi, pjthedoors, rkell87
1.5 - tm119
2 Backup - starboyz83
2.5 - chrisinarizona,
3 Starter - cowboyblue22
3.25 - theranchsucks, ghst187
3.5 - joshjwp, cowboysyankslakers, mcompact, ghostofpelleur, hardhittin'witten
3.75 - ka0ik
4 - Marginal Probowl - wavingmonkey, gmoney112, iamliko22, waldoputty, howboutdemcowboys31, shaketiller
4.5 -sdcowboy85, daillest88
5 Solid Probowl - bigdogcowboy, rat2k8
6 Generational - rgv_clos, scotman, gameover, xwalker (made joke?), phildadon86

statistically, the bell curve is centered around 3.75, though there are small peaks on both extremes of the bell curve which is highly unusual statistically...
one may say the curve is skewed during to fans' excitement and the slow decay due to continuing disbelief...

unclear answers from: t-ro, stilltheguru88, mrtxstar, ccboy, maverick84, ksadler1, viman96, reddyuta, cowboys22

 

[Shake_Tiller]

4

 

[ghst187]

Jaylon won the hardest award to win for a defender in college ball. I think he's a little more than ok.

So did Bosworth, manti teo, and rocky Calmus, and none had major knee injuries. Maybe it was a down year for LBs.
I'm mostly messin cuz if he turns out dynamic for us and lives up to the hype we would only be one or two players away from a long stretch of dominance and super bowl rings.

 

[mahoneybill]

By now, I think almost everyone think Jaylon will play next year.
The question is how well.
The only information we have is that Jaylon said he is running a 4.4/4.5.
The other info are the videos of his rehab that looks good to me, but I am no expert.
I have yet to hear an expert comment on the cutting and drills...

But I thought it would be fun for at least some of us to guess what we get next year.
So please select from the following choices:
1. Cut from camp / IR
2. Backup
3. Starter but similar to other LBs others than Lee.
4. Marginal probowler like Lee was this year (though there was the all-pro...)
5. Definite probowler
6. Generational player in the 1st year.

My guess is 4 - marginal probowler.

What is your prediction???

BTW, the fact is that most of us think he will play is already better than many have predicted.

4

 

[haleyrules]

Really! Who knows. It's a long shot. Lets hope.

 

[waldoputty]

Here is a 'plot' of the results so far:

1 Injured/cut - bodi, pjthedoors, rkell87
1.5 - tm119
2 Backup - starboyz83
2.5 - chrisinarizona,
3 Starter - cowboyblue22
3.25 - theranchsucks, ghst187
3.5 - joshjwp, cowboysyankslakers, mcompact, ghostofpelleur, hardhittin'witten
3.75 - ka0ik
4 - Marginal Probowl - wavingmonkey, gmoney112, iamliko22, waldoputty, howboutdemcowboys31, shaketiller
4.5 -sdcowboy85, daillest88, mahoneybill
5 Solid Probowl - bigdogcowboy, rat2k8
6 Generational - rgv_clos, scotman, gameover, xwalker (made joke?), phildadon86

statistically, the bell curve is still centered around 3.75, though there are good-sized peaks on both extremes of the bell curve which is highly unusual statistically...
curve may be skewed during to fans' excitement and the slow decay on the other end due to continuing disbelief...

unclear answers from: t-ro, stilltheguru88, mrtxstar, ccboy, maverick84, ksadler1, viman96, reddyuta, cowboys22, haleyrules

 

[Jerryrage]

I need the lotto numbers, thanks.

 

[Echo9]

By now, I think almost everyone think Jaylon will play next year.
The question is how well.
The only information we have is that Jaylon said he is running a 4.4/4.5.
The other info are the videos of his rehab that looks good to me, but I am no expert.
I have yet to hear an expert comment on the cutting and drills...

But I thought it would be fun for at least some of us to guess what we get next year.
So please select from the following choices:
1. Cut from camp / IR
2. Backup
3. Starter but similar to other LBs others than Lee.
4. Marginal probowler like Lee was this year (though there was the all-pro...)
5. Definite probowler
6. Generational player in the 1st year.

My guess is 4 - marginal probowler.

What is your prediction???

BTW, the fact is that most of us think he will play is already better than many have predicted.

I'll go with 4. I think Lee was clearly a 5 by your rating system. All-Pro is a significantly higher honor than the Pro-bowl. Placing Lee at 4 because of an obvious initial skews the rating (and is why you'll get some 3.5's). Putting Smith at 4 makes sense since I don't think he'll have an impact in his rookie season like Lee does, but play better than any other LB on the team.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

3.5

I think that's realistic. Somewhere between a "meh" linebacker and a borderline probowler.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I have a bad feeling he'll never play a down. Seems too good to be true

 

[Rockdoc]

i would probably pick between 3 and 4
but to pick a whole number i will be cautious and say

3

he will make a difference

 

[tyke1doe]

3.5

 

[waldoputty]

Here is a 'plot' of the results so far:

1 Injured/cut - bodi, pjthedoors, rkell87, marionbarberthe4th
1.5 - tm119
2 Backup - starboyz83
2.5 - chrisinarizona,
3 Starter - cowboyblue22, rockdoc
3.25 - theranchsucks, ghst187
3.5 - joshjwp, cowboysyankslakers, mcompact, ghostofpelleur, hardhittin'witten, tyle1doe, michaelwinicki
3.75 - ka0ik
4 - Marginal Probowl - wavingmonkey, gmoney112, iamliko22, waldoputty, howboutdemcowboys31, shaketiller, eric_h, mahoney_bill
4.5 -sdcowboy85, daillest88
5 Solid Probowl - bigdogcowboy, rat2k8
6 Generational - rgv_clos, scotman, gameover, xwalker (made joke?), phildadon86

statistically, the bell curve is still centered around 3.75 (3.5 and 4 are tied with 7 votes each), though there are good-sized peaks on both extremes of the bell curve which is highly unusual statistically...
curve may be skewed during to fans' excitement (5 votes for generational player) and the slow decay on the other end due to continuing disbelief (4 votes for injury/cut)...

unclear answers from: t-ro, stilltheguru88, mrtxstar, ccboy, maverick84, ksadler1, viman96, reddyuta, cowboys22, haleyrules, jerryrage

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

6. This front office has said hes an generational player

 

[waldoputty]

6. This front office has said hes an generational player

just to be clear, this is for next year only

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I have a bad feeling he'll never play a down. Seems too good to be true

I voted between 3 and 4 but I've also had the feeling he has more health issues and doesn't pan out. It would be cruel but fitting for Dallas if he recovers from this injury only to be hampered by other injuries and never be the dynamic player he could have been