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With the somewhat new real (2011) of all rookies (drafted) being signed to 4 year contracts, my theory is that to be successful in this league in what I would call new free agency, you simply (not actually a simple task) have to draft well for 4 years, as every player on your team who has been there for longer than 4 years after 2011 much have been at some point a free agent or eligible to be a free agent had they not re-signed with their team at some point. If you manage free agency well for the same time period in which you draft well (4 years), you can put together what has to be one of the best teams in the league.

The last poor free agency decision we made was in 2012, since then we have been really smart in free agency. Everyone we have re-signed has been a value at his position for us. 2015 will be Carr's 4th year in Dallas (and probably his last year if he doesn't take a pay cut, which would change the calculus of him being a bad signing). 2016 is therefore our reset year.

The Cowboys must see this as well, which is why they have refused to sign any long term contracts that have the potential to backfire on them. Note that I'm not saying just because of 2016, but because it is fiscally responsible either way.

But I think it says a lot that of our 5th year players, we didn't keep Murray, Harris, or Carter who did not present good value for us, but who did we get Rolando McClain who represents great value, Andy Gachkar and Danny McCray who we resigned who create value for us on special teams. Greg Hardy who might be one of the top 5 defensive ends in the league. Terrell McClain, who was a 3rd round draft pick for the Panthers, who never took the time to develop him. People think he is a journey man because he skipped around on a couple teams where he clearly didn't fit in the first place. This is his 3rd year (out of 5 years pro) being in the 4-3, where he belongs. If healthy, I think he could potentially start for us. Look out for him. They also brought back Tyler Clutts. I think the 5th year is significant as these players would naturally have had their first year of free agency last year. Hardy was franchised, McClain never got a real shot, and McClain showed us that he can be a premier player when he puts it all together. These players represent a better value for us than our own 2011 draft picks.

It should also be noted that we brought in a few 4th year players last year and this year.

The youth movement on this team has been significant and the few players we have with more than 5 years experience, most of whom are homegrown are at the top of their positions, meaning that had they simply been free agent signings on any team they would have been highly valued. 15 players fit that billing a few of them are backups.

They really aren't bringing any guys in with more than 7 years experience. I think the re-signing of Doug Free was absolutely about necessity and continuity in the wake of Parnell being re-signed and not having depth at tackle without Free. I think Scandrick similarly represents the need to maintain consistency at corner this year, but I would not be surprised to see him replaced in a year or two either.

Carr, McFadden, Hayden, Mincey, Bernadeau, Brinkley, and Rivers.... either gone this year, next year, or the year after depending on their position situation. Absolutely think we draft a backup corner next year and Bernadeau is gone.
 

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But I think it says a lot that of our 5th year players, we didn't keep Murray, Harris, or Carter who did not present good value for us, but who did we get Rolando McClain who represents great value...

Rolando McClain is our 6th round pick this year, right?
 

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Rolando McClain is our 6th round pick this year, right?

That's correct. That's pretty good value to me. I'd love to see them use their late round draft picks like this more often.

And I love how they tried to bring in former 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks. Even if you can get an actual player every other year like this, it is worth it.
 

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I think they've seen how we developed the offense thru the draft (and UDFA) and see that as the way to go. I also believe that Jerry felt burned by the entire Ratliff ordeal where he paid a veteran in good faith and the veteran decided to stiff him. With Ware and others struggling with injuries as well, whatever or whomever it was finally convinced him to lay off re-signing veteran players that are getting up there unless it's the QB which you can't live without.

Last season all of these players were either drafted or signed as UDFA by the Cowboys on offense:

Romo (UDFA)
Murray (3rd round)
Randle (5th round)
Dunbar (UDFA)
Bryant (1st round)
T. Williams (3rd round)
Beasley (UDFA)
Witten (3rd round)
Hanna (6th round)
Free (4th round)
Martin (1st round)
Frederick (1st round)
Leary (UDFA)
T. Smith (1st round)

Hopefully there should be a sentiment that there is no reason why you can't replicate this type of production from draft picks and UDFA's on defense. Furthermore, our top players on defense last season were B. Carter, T. Crawford and Scrandrick, drafted in rounds 2, 3 and 4 respectively.






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With the somewhat new real (2011) of all rookies (drafted) being signed to 4 year contracts, my theory is that to be successful in this league in what I would call new free agency, you simply (not actually a simple task) have to draft well for 4 years, as every player on your team who has been there for longer than 4 years after 2011 much have been at some point a free agent or eligible to be a free agent had they not re-signed with their team at some point. If you manage free agency well for the same time period in which you draft well (4 years), you can put together what has to be one of the best teams in the league.

The last poor free agency decision we made was in 2012, since then we have been really smart in free agency. Everyone we have re-signed has been a value at his position for us. 2015 will be Carr's 4th year in Dallas (and probably his last year if he doesn't take a pay cut, which would change the calculus of him being a bad signing). 2016 is therefore our reset year.

The Cowboys must see this as well, which is why they have refused to sign any long term contracts that have the potential to backfire on them. Note that I'm not saying just because of 2016, but because it is fiscally responsible either way.

But I think it says a lot that of our 5th year players, we didn't keep Murray, Harris, or Carter who did not present good value for us, but who did we get Rolando McClain who represents great value, Andy Gachkar and Danny McCray who we resigned who create value for us on special teams. Greg Hardy who might be one of the top 5 defensive ends in the league. Terrell McClain, who was a 3rd round draft pick for the Panthers, who never took the time to develop him. People think he is a journey man because he skipped around on a couple teams where he clearly didn't fit in the first place. This is his 3rd year (out of 5 years pro) being in the 4-3, where he belongs. If healthy, I think he could potentially start for us. Look out for him. They also brought back Tyler Clutts. I think the 5th year is significant as these players would naturally have had their first year of free agency last year. Hardy was franchised, McClain never got a real shot, and McClain showed us that he can be a premier player when he puts it all together. These players represent a better value for us than our own 2011 draft picks.

It should also be noted that we brought in a few 4th year players last year and this year.

The youth movement on this team has been significant and the few players we have with more than 5 years experience, most of whom are homegrown are at the top of their positions, meaning that had they simply been free agent signings on any team they would have been highly valued. 15 players fit that billing a few of them are backups.

They really aren't bringing any guys in with more than 7 years experience. I think the re-signing of Doug Free was absolutely about necessity and continuity in the wake of Parnell being re-signed and not having depth at tackle without Free. I think Scandrick similarly represents the need to maintain consistency at corner this year, but I would not be surprised to see him replaced in a year or two either.

Carr, McFadden, Hayden, Mincey, Bernadeau, Brinkley, and Rivers.... either gone this year, next year, or the year after depending on their position situation. Absolutely think we draft a backup corner next year and Bernadeau is gone.

Under the current CBA, teams need to get production from draft picks while they are on their rookie contracts. This is especially true for teams with expensive veteran QBs.

When players become free agents, there is no big advantage to resigning your own free agent vs some other team's free agent. Ultimately, you prefer to replace the free agent with another player that is on his rookie contract.

The Cowboys are not operating on some magical 4 or 5 year point of view, other than the fact that rookie contracts are 4 years with a 5th year option for 1st rounders.

Young players are cheap and less likely to get injured. Jerry ignored this basic premise for many years because he grew attached to veteran players and overpaid them. The Cowboys are now doing things the Stephen Jones way.

The NFL is a young mans game. Think about the ages of the players on the 92, 93 and 95 Super Bowl teams. Irving was drafted in 88 and the majority of the others were drafted in 89 or later with a few veterans like Haley thrown into the mix. Even in those pre-salary cap days, Jimmy was not going to try to build a team around a bunch of older veterans.
 

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Under the current CBA, teams need to get production from draft picks while they are on their rookie contracts. This is especially true for teams with expensive veteran QBs.

When players become free agents, there is no big advantage to resigning your own free agent vs some other team's free agent. Ultimately, you prefer to replace the free agent with another player that is on his rookie contract.

The Cowboys are not operating on some magical 4 or 5 year point of view, other than the fact that rookie contracts are 4 years with a 5th year option for 1st rounders.

Young players are cheap and less likely to get injured. Jerry ignored this basic premise for many years because he grew attached to veteran players and overpaid them. The Cowboys are now doing things the Stephen Jones way.

The NFL is a young mans game. Think about the ages of the players on the 92, 93 and 95 Super Bowl teams. Irving was drafted in 88 and the majority of the others were drafted in 89 or later with a few veterans like Haley thrown into the mix. Even in those pre-salary cap days, Jimmy was not going to try to build a team around a bunch of older veterans.

Suggesting it is magical reveals your inability to misunderstand simple math. It isn't math. You have a mathematical window where you need to maximize your talent level while players are in their rookie contracts. As soon as the 5th year hits, your original class is playing at a free agent rate. Any previous veterans are already playing at said rate. What distinguishes from team to team what value you're getting from your free agents and re-signed veterans and the production you're getting from your players on rookie contracts.

The age of players matters when it comes to injuries, but the biggest thing about younger players is their cost, and that is a development of free agency, and compounded by the automatic nature of rookie contracts now. It becomes formulaic.

Veterans + 1st year rookies + 2nd year rookies + 3rd year rookies + 4th year rookies = wins/losses

The Cowboys only resign players to major contracts when they present a value above the standard that other teams would pay their veterans. If your veteran compliment is as good or better than your competitors and you draft better than them and get more production out of your 1st-4th year rookies, you beat them.

If you look at our 4th years, you can see that they aren't especially great players. I think they'd like to recover what they can from Morris Claiborne this year. Tyrone Crawford has a chance to take things to the next level. Cole Beasley was a great find in UDFA that definitely helped that class. James Hanna has also been a contributor on offense. They took a flier on AJ Jenkins and Brandon Weeden, so we'll see if either of those can become value for this team. We also don't know what we're going to get from Dunbar, who I think still holds promise.
 

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The NFL is a young mans game. Think about the ages of the players on the 92, 93 and 95 Super Bowl teams. Irving was drafted in 88 and the majority of the others were drafted in 89 or later with a few veterans like Haley thrown into the mix. Even in those pre-salary cap days, Jimmy was not going to try to build a team around a bunch of older veterans.

Jimmy Johnson was 100% sold on being in better shape than the other team. His famous quote was, "fatigue make cowards of us all", and it is absolutely true. Having younger players not only helps avoid missed games from injuries, but also helped field a team that could run all day long.

Those early-to-mid 90's Cowboys teams were, for the most part, very young teams, and Jimmy ran them like he was obsessed with it (he might have been). His teams might have been a tad smaller than most other teams but by the second half of games they simply weren't as tired as their opponent. A 280 pound guy is going to shove a 310 pound guy around if the big one is exhausted. A simply concept that is sometimes forgotten these days it seems.

That is why I love Marinelli's approach to the defensive line. He's going to have 8 or 9 guys that are all going to be fresh in the 4th quarter. Frankly, I think Garrett is thinking along those lines too with the entire team.

Such a great time to be a Cowboys fan. We deserve it after living though 1996 - 2010.
 

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Suggesting it is magical reveals your inability to misunderstand simple math. It isn't math. You have a mathematical window where you need to maximize your talent level while players are in their rookie contracts. As soon as the 5th year hits, your original class is playing at a free agent rate. Any previous veterans are already playing at said rate. What distinguishes from team to team what value you're getting from your free agents and re-signed veterans and the production you're getting from your players on rookie contracts.

The age of players matters when it comes to injuries, but the biggest thing about younger players is their cost, and that is a development of free agency, and compounded by the automatic nature of rookie contracts now. It becomes formulaic.

Veterans + 1st year rookies + 2nd year rookies + 3rd year rookies + 4th year rookies = wins/losses

The Cowboys only resign players to major contracts when they present a value above the standard that other teams would pay their veterans. If your veteran compliment is as good or better than your competitors and you draft better than them and get more production out of your 1st-4th year rookies, you beat them.

If you look at our 4th years, you can see that they aren't especially great players. I think they'd like to recover what they can from Morris Claiborne this year. Tyrone Crawford has a chance to take things to the next level. Cole Beasley was a great find in UDFA that definitely helped that class. James Hanna has also been a contributor on offense. They took a flier on AJ Jenkins and Brandon Weeden, so we'll see if either of those can become value for this team. We also don't know what we're going to get from Dunbar, who I think still holds promise.

I have a college degree in Mathematics and another in Engineering.

You didn't specifically address anything that I said. You just posted more of your rambling thoughts.
 

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I have a college degree in Mathematics and another in Engineering.

You didn't specifically address anything that I said. You just posted more of your rambling thoughts.

Sounds like you got your degree at hogwarts if you think that formulas are magical.
 

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Jimmy Johnson was 100% sold on being in better shape than the other team. His famous quote was, "fatigue make cowards of us all", and it is absolutely true. Having younger players not only helps avoid missed games from injuries, but also helped field a team that could run all day long.

Those early-to-mid 90's Cowboys teams were, for the most part, very young teams, and Jimmy ran them like he was obsessed with it (he might have been). His teams might have been a tad smaller than most other teams but by the second half of games they simply weren't as tired as their opponent. A 280 pound guy is going to shove a 310 pound guy around if the big one is exhausted. A simply concept that is sometimes forgotten these days it seems.

That is why I love Marinelli's approach to the defensive line. He's going to have 8 or 9 guys that are all going to be fresh in the 4th quarter. Frankly, I think Garrett is thinking along those lines too with the entire team.

Such a great time to be a Cowboys fan. We deserve it after living though 1996 - 2010.

This is true. Absolutely.

Jimmy's penchant for being in shape applies to a man of any size as long as he adheres to the training to get into that shape. Weight is less a focus of what Jimmy was about than it was speed. He got smaller players that were fast on defense and could react and get to the ball.

He got powerful linemen so he could withstand the rush and make holes for Emmitt.

Both Irvin and Emmitt were not burners. Harper wasn't either.

But the hallmark of Jimmy's defenses were speed. Being in shape was important, but if you look at Jimmy's teams, they platooned the defensive line to keep the pressure on the opposing offense.

Which harkens back to what some have said here for a while.

No pass rush means no pass defense.
 

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As long as you resign the players who have value to the team it works well. That and not many injuries.
You can't hope to lucky like we did the past year and get three top level talents.

FYI. The Giants are always looking to re-sign their own players first. You don't see them signing a lot of outside free agents.
The problem being we may face is we lose a lot of players at one time in the coming years.
While the additional draft picks you get attempt to compensate for this. Your drafting better be spot on every pick to keep moving forward.
 
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