Front offices turning on owners

[RS12]

08:03 AM ET 05.20 | Stephen Ross, to some degree, took his case to Squawk Box Thursday, saying that while owners want football, too, the financial model doesn't work. "Once the players really kind of understand it, and not try to win through a court victory, hopefully the game will be on." But Thursday Ross and many of his fellow owners have created an atmosphere in which many of their employees are now rooting against them -- and that now includes the league's coaches, football support staff and non-football employees, who in Miami and many other cities have become unintended victims of the lockout. .

Read more: http://www.fannation.com/#ixzz1MvPALkOB

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

And as a team source explained Wednesday, the pay cuts have created a strange dynamic inside the Dolphins' offices, where Ross' employees are now rooting for the owners to lose at the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals next month so the lockout can be lifted and wages returned to normal.

Understandable. Even more than the fans, these kinds of people are the real victims in all of this.

 

[CCBoy]

Understandable. Even more than the fans, these kinds of people are the real victims in all of this.

I am on vacation right now, with my Silver Anniversary tomorrow. It's been a real pleasure listening to you through today's posting by yourself.:starspin

 

[burmafrd]

I can understand that. But the owners believe there has to be changes or in 10 years it will be bad. Naturally the guys living paycheck to paycheck CAN'T think that way.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I am on vacation right now, with my Silver Anniversary tomorrow. It's been a real pleasure listening to you through today's posting by yourself.:starspin

Congrats man!! Hope you have something special planned. Been a pleasure on this end as well.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Lame. He reports it as if the owners where doing something bad to them. This dance has two people causing the problem, the fact that these *supposed* employees are mad at the owners just shows selfishness.

Worthless journalism.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

These employees are the people screwed more than anyone in this deal. They're not going to make the living they need to either.

And, unlike the owners and players, they don't have millions of dollars in their bank accounts to fall back on. I can't blame these people for being upset, no matter who they're ultimately pointing the finger at.

 

[NinePointOh]

Lame. He reports it as if the owners where doing something bad to them. This dance has two people causing the problem, the fact that these *supposed* employees are mad at the owners just shows selfishness.

Worthless journalism.

The report doesn't say anything about the employees being mad at them. They're just rooting for the owners to lose the COA case because it would supposedly benefit them if that happened.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Lame. He reports it as if the owners where doing something bad to them.

Eight days ago, the Dolphins told non-football employees that all salaries would be immediately cut by 10-20 percent for as long as the lockout lasts because of slumping season ticket sales – a slump brought on in part by the lockout instituted by the owners. And yesterday the Post learned that the football staff won’t be spared, either – everyone from general manager Jeff Ireland and head coach Tony Sparano down to the assistant coaches and support staff will face pay cuts effective June 1.


Everyone on the business and football sides will return to normal wages once the lockout ends. But they won’t get refunds on their lost wages. The lockout could end in June, but at worst could last well into the fall.

The cuts are hard for many employees to accept, given that the lockout has so far only postponed the players’ conditioning program and a few mini-camps. Most of the revenue-generating activities don’t happen until late summer and the fall. And the owners are now the ones fighting in court to keep the lockout in place.

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...turning-coaches-employees-against-the-owners/

Yeah, I don't know why these guys would be upset by that.

Greedy janitors. Hopefully our beloved 32 Gallant White Knights of the NFL Ownership Calvary squash these insolent peasants.

 

[peplaw06]

Fractures and Implosions!!! Oh teh humanitiez!!!!

 

[CCBoy]

Fractures and Implosions!!! Oh teh humanitiez!!!!

Easy fella', you're getting prime time on us.

 

[Hoofbite]

Are any of those people even missing work?

I mean, the coaches and everyone else can still go to work and collect a check right?

Typically a job at this level doesn't require a time card (unless you're dan reeves). Salaried is salaried.

 

[Doomsday101]

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...turning-coaches-employees-against-the-owners/

Yeah, I don't know why these guys would be upset by that.

Greedy janitors. Hopefully our beloved 32 Gallant White Knights of the NFL Ownership Calvary squash these insolent peasants.

sound like that is the Dolphin owner have all owners did that?

The Cowboys' coaching staff is the envy of the NFL.

The coaches work for an organization that does not scrimp on their salaries and will not penalize them if a lockout begins as soon as Friday evening. The Cowboys' coaches will not take the financial hit many of their peers will during a lockout.

http://www.herald-review.com/mobile/article_72e463e6-4b31-11e0-90d8-001cc4c002e0.html

 

[CCBoy]

sound like that is the Dolphin owner have all owners did that?

The Cowboys' coaching staff is the envy of the NFL.

The coaches work for an organization that does not scrimp on their salaries and will not penalize them if a lockout begins as soon as Friday evening. The Cowboys' coaches will not take the financial hit many of their peers will during a lockout.

http://www.herald-review.com/mobile/article_72e463e6-4b31-11e0-90d8-001cc4c002e0.html

Could that be because of the common page reference between owner and GM?

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...turning-coaches-employees-against-the-owners/

Yeah, I don't know why these guys would be upset by that.

Greedy janitors. Hopefully our beloved 32 Gallant White Knights of the NFL Ownership Calvary squash these insolent peasants.

I think most of us share your concern for these employees. Still, you might put your righteous indignation on hold long enough to observe that there are 2,500 players or so who could be doing their part to ride in on white horses to the rescue, but have instead chosen to pursue a litigation strategy in lieu of the kind of negotiation that might actually get this lock-out lifted.

 

[Doomsday101]

Could that be because of the common page reference between owner and GM?

I don't know, Jerry is not the only team who has continued to pay. Each owner is in different situations. I feel for those who are having to take pay cuts or be out of work completely.

This whole situation sucks but it is business and hopefully a resolution can be found to get these people back on the job and making full wages once again.

 

[Rockytop6]

sound like that is the Dolphin owner have all owners did that?

The Cowboys' coaching staff is the envy of the NFL.

The coaches work for an organization that does not scrimp on their salaries and will not penalize them if a lockout begins as soon as Friday evening. The Cowboys' coaches will not take the financial hit many of their peers will during a lockout.

http://www.herald-review.com/mobile/article_72e463e6-4b31-11e0-90d8-001cc4c002e0.html

I remember when Jerry bought the Cowboys and I was upset the way he fired Coach Landry and his coaches. Jerry Tubbs told me personally that JJ honored all of the committments to the coaches and they were paid for the year when they would not be coaching, even though JJ was not legally bound to do so. I don't like JJ as a GM and I have been as critical as anybody but I don't remember any employee of his ever complaining about their treatment.

 

[EPL0c0]

Just thinking about Dallas, the money that surrounds a home game has to be nuts. Not just ticket sales, but consession sales (beer sales alone), merchandise, parking (on and off-stadium site), but also the airlines for people that fly into Dallas for games, hotels/motels, local restaurants, retail, grocery stores, convenience stores, etc.. just goes on and on.

THe owners might have a lockout fund, and players might have some of their millions put away (if they're smart), but for the Joe Schmoe's out there, this lockout could hurt big time

 

[CCBoy]

I don't know, Jerry is not the only team who has continued to pay. Each owner is in different situations. I feel for those who are having to take pay cuts or be out of work completely.

This whole situation sucks but it is business and hopefully a resolution can be found to get these people back on the job and making full wages once again.

My statement was not to a functional role of Jerry limited to either capacity. It was meant to cut to the chase as to his being a truely concerned head of organization that maximized employee benefits. Not just using a limited actions of facility maintenance or upkeep of weight rooms and lockerrooms while not being used as the cause for layoffs. He is fluid enough in his business enterprises to know the need to project into additional enterprise in the mean time. He fullfills that need with the addition of yet another mission for workers to be needed for.

He pays his employees on the basis of being part of his team. This not limited to ability to produce when circumstances prevent such ability.

I really wasn't going towards a comparison of motives throughout the league. Here, Snyder fired entry types of employees just because he was pissed off.

I wasn't addressing those types of considerations...or emotional attachments tagging along.

I agree with you, that this has really entered the emotional regions of an eyesore. And could easily be resolved without further clutter in the courts, with dialogue and arriving at a negotiated CBA without eye gouging.

 

[CCBoy]

Just thinking about Dallas, the money that surrounds a home game has to be nuts. Not just ticket sales, but consession sales (beer sales alone), merchandise, parking (on and off-stadium site), but also the airlines for people that fly into Dallas for games, hotels/motels, local restaurants, retail, grocery stores, convenience stores, etc.. just goes on and on.

THe owners might have a lockout fund, and players might have some of their millions put away (if they're smart), but for the Joe Schmoe's out there, this lockout could hurt big time

Talking about cash flow surrounding, and the real animal of appeal to a community in supporting facility constructions...you bet.

You want a lucrative business spawned by a stadium such as Jerry's fine one? Try a concessions related corporation with a regional afinity supplying for collegiate level consumers. You could throw in a line of current and player/team pictures and achievement types coverage in sells. Then with an updated advertisement approach that gives by to alumni associations. Hey, that upswing would cause card punchers to marvel.