Ft Hood shooting....Again

[BigDGarciaFan]

almost five years after that first Ft Hood shooting, theres another shooting today.

 

[jobberone]

Keep it civil and apolitical please.

 

[BigDGarciaFan]

ill try not to make it worse. dont want to scare anyone

 

[zrinkill]

That entire area is cursed. Waco ...... Fort Hood.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Doesn't look like terrorism. Argument among soldiers.

 

[jobberone]

ill try not to make it worse. dont want to scare anyone

My post wasn't directed at you; just a general statement.

 

[Galian Beast]

That entire area is cursed. Waco ...... Fort Hood.

Second most populated state in the country... Nearly 9 percent of the country lives in Texas....

 

[zrinkill]

Second most populated state in the country... Nearly 9 percent of the country lives in Texas....

I was talking about that area in Texas ....... not the entirety of Texas.

I live in East Texas.

 

[CF74]

TX is the Wild West

 

[Eric_Boyer]

very hard to understand what war must do on a person's mental state having never endured it personally.

heart goes out to the families effected.

 

[BigStar]

The soldier was evidently suffering from mental illness related issues (PTSD mainly). An ABC news segment mentions a possible "major brain injury" inflicted while in combat but the military will not confirm (for obvious reasons). I have great empathy for soldiers who are well intentioned...but have "issues" once returning home. The quote below is pulled from an article written by Ewan MacAskill of "The Guardian",
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ns-high-suicide-rates-veterans-mental-illness

"One explanation is that, faced with fighting two wars, the military relaxed its recruitment criteria. According to the NIMH studies, about [SIZE=+0]one in five[/SIZE] US soldiers suffered from depression, panic disorder and other mental illness before enlisting...In theory, given the more selective nature of the recruitment, the easy access to healthcare and the high standards of fitness, the military should have lower suicide rates than civilians, or at least be on par with them. Before the Iraq and Afghanistan engagements this was the case, but not since. About a quarter of soldiers are assessed as suffering from a mental illness."

"The military is struggling not only with PTSD but a host of other problems, not least alcohol and substance abuse, domestic violence, personal financial problems and inability to find jobs at home...One of the problems in the US is that the military will fund treatment for PTSD but is less enthusiastic about investing in treatment of other mental illnesses. Doctors sympathetic to the troops will often place those being treated in the PTSD category so they will be entitled to have medical bills paid. The downside is that this inflates the percentage of those judged to be suffering from PTSD."

 

[StevenOtero]

Whattayaknow, another shooting linked to SSRI meds.

Stay away from that poison.

 

[burmafrd]

The soldier was evidently suffering from mental illness related issues (PTSD mainly). An ABC news segment mentions a possible "major brain injury" inflicted while in combat but the military will not confirm (for obvious reasons). I have great empathy for soldiers who are well intentioned...but have "issues" once returning home. The quote below is pulled from an article written by Ewan MacAskill of "The Guardian",
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ns-high-suicide-rates-veterans-mental-illness

"One explanation is that, faced with fighting two wars, the military relaxed its recruitment criteria. According to the NIMH studies, about [SIZE=+0]one in five[/SIZE] US soldiers suffered from depression, panic disorder and other mental illness before enlisting...In theory, given the more selective nature of the recruitment, the easy access to healthcare and the high standards of fitness, the military should have lower suicide rates than civilians, or at least be on par with them. Before the Iraq and Afghanistan engagements this was the case, but not since. About a quarter of soldiers are assessed as suffering from a mental illness."

"The military is struggling not only with PTSD but a host of other problems, not least alcohol and substance abuse, domestic violence, personal financial problems and inability to find jobs at home...One of the problems in the US is that the military will fund treatment for PTSD but is less enthusiastic about investing in treatment of other mental illnesses. Doctors sympathetic to the troops will often place those being treated in the PTSD category so they will be entitled to have medical bills paid. The downside is that this inflates the percentage of those judged to be suffering from PTSD."

The military now routinely DEPLOYS soldiers on psychological medication. Think about that: you are already being treated for a psych problem BEFORE you get into a war zone.

 

[BigStar]

The military now routinely DEPLOYS soldiers on psychological medication. Think about that: you are already being treated for a psych problem BEFORE you get into a war zone.

Dangerous cocktail for sure.

 

[Rack]

The military now routinely DEPLOYS soldiers on psychological medication. Think about that: you are already being treated for a psych problem BEFORE you get into a war zone.

I know of one of these cases personally. Then, while deployed, and the soldier "Cracked" they wanted to kick him out of the army with a dishonorable discharge. My PSG went ballistic and fought for the soldier (and won).

The army can be heartless at times.

My heart goes out to the families of the shooter and victims.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

I have now actually stood in 4 places where there been shootings in the US, not while they were happening thankfully. I worked at Ft Hood for 4 weeks. I went to school at Pitt and would walk by and sometimes in Western Psych where there was a shooting about a year or so ago. I sometimes go to the Columbia Mall in MD where there was a shooting several months ago. I walked around the University of Texas where that wacko Whitman started shooting from the tower decades ago. Crazy.

One cousin of mine was murdered in FL in 1980 and another second cousin was murdered in WV in the late 1980's.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It is a sad story but I wonder why Bumfard seems to be defending the murderer.

 

[Rack]

I'm not allowed to say or post much of anything about this, but I can tell you it happened close to where my unit is and it happened in the building right next to where my wife works.

Those of you making statements (for or against the victins or suspect) need to just stop. You don't know anything. It happened right next to me and my wife and I don't know anything.

Nothing can be said to defend what SPC Lopez did, but I can tell you the Military is an extremely high stress profession. That's all I'll say about that.