Funny how the name CFL skill position guys are exCowboys

[LarryCanadian]

Remember these names:

Tucker
McGarity
Avery
Flemming
Copeland
Brazell

All these guys have firmly entrenched themselves as stars or solid starters in CFL. Everywhere you look in CFL (and I don't look very hard, because I'm not a real fan of CFL), but old Cowboys cast offs are everwhere at WR and RB especially.

Kinda funny how weak our roster was over that period 3-6 years ago. Although Tucker was pretty good until he had those toe problems. He had been coming along nicely till those strange injuries.

Oh by the way, how is this for a painful adjustment. The average (or at least mathematical "mean") CFL salary is probably $45,000 Canadian. Lots of guys play for $37,500/year.

And you wonder why Canadian players go south to be kickers and deepsnappers hehe. Better pay than running pass routes across the middle and getting killed for $37,500/year. OUch!!

Ricky Williams looked terrible up here by the way. It's a different game.

Larry

 

[cowboyed]

Out of that group Tucker was the real deal. He played clutch for us as well. I thought he was going to be something special until he messed up his toes playing for the Boys.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Out of that group Tucker was the real deal. He played clutch for us as well. I thought he was going to be something special until he messed up his toes playing for the Boys.

Tucker had that one big game vs NY and that was it.

 

[jcblanco22]

I was very partial to Jermaine Copeland and really hoped he'd make it. In fact, I remember he was here during BP's first camp wasn't he? If memory serves me correct, he broke his collarbone during the '02 camp under Campo after getting off to a real good start. Then he did okay in '03 but couldn't play ST as well as some other guys if I recall.

One other weird fact about him: He and Quincy had invested in a house together and were roommates! Anyone else remember JJT reporting this?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

just good enough to be a solid player in the CFL, but not good enough to make an NFL roster, really speaks to the level of CFL competition, and yet people like Ricky Ray get contracts and expectations placed on them...

 

[stealth]

37 grand a year is like making about 80 grand here maybe more the cost of living is way cheaper there

 

[jem88]

Remember these names:

Tucker
McGarity
Avery
Flemming
Copeland
Brazell

All these guys have firmly entrenched themselves as stars or solid starters in CFL. Everywhere you look in CFL (and I don't look very hard, because I'm not a real fan of CFL), but old Cowboys cast offs are everwhere at WR and RB especially.

Kinda funny how weak our roster was over that period 3-6 years ago. Although Tucker was pretty good until he had those toe problems. He had been coming along nicely till those strange injuries.

Oh by the way, how is this for a painful adjustment. The average (or at least mathematical "mean") CFL salary is probably $45,000 Canadian. Lots of guys play for $37,500/year.

And you wonder why Canadian players go south to be kickers and deepsnappers hehe. Better pay than running pass routes across the middle and getting killed for $37,500/year. OUch!!

Ricky Williams looked terrible up here by the way. It's a different game.

Larry

I believe Kenyon Rambo and Ed Hervey are also playing up here.

 

[LarryCanadian]

Gotta disagree Stealth.

In Greater Vancouver (Population 3-4 Million), where I live, average house price is about $500,000 now. Prices for homes have gone up from 50% to 100% over last 3 years in many parts of Vancouver and other places in Canada. Alberta is going crazy as well because of all the oil they got. Imagine a State or Province that has no sales tax and NO DEBT. Everyones moving there for work signing bonuses.

Most places in Vancouver are more expensive than the majority of cities in US now, particularly with the change in value of dollar.

5 years ago I'd go to Vegas and it would cost me almost $1.60 Canadian for $1 US. Now it's $1.10 Canadian for $1 US. You Yanks gotta watch that trade deficit, you guys have been spoiling yourselves for too long, hehe.

So the Price of Living arguement is a bit off. Mexico maybe, Canada no longer.

Most guys in CFL make significantly less than a teacher or firefighter or nurse etc. It's crazy.

LarryCanadian

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Most guys in CFL make significantly less than a teacher or firefighter or nurse etc. It's crazy.

LarryCanadian

think about that for a second...

 

[LarryCanadian]

Really, you could spend a lot more time than a second thinking about that......

A bunch of the guys playing up here in CFL play because of the love of football (and perhaps all that goes with it... celebrity status, women, etc). A number also play because it is the only thing they know how to do (probably still more fun than tarring a roof or digging trenches). Both are interesting concepts. I'm guessing Ricky Williams is playing up here because he owes a lot of money and wants to be able to get an NFL paycheck again next season if possible.

Now, my brother is even crazier. He is one of the top 50 Rugby players in Canada, so he basically is a substitute for the national team. Sometimes he travels with the team sometimes he doesn't. Rugby is similarly brutal on the body to football. HE DOESN'T GET PAID AT ALL!!! On the National Team and doesn't get paid. In fact, when he played for Canada's Junior World Cup team in France, he had to pay to get there.....BOGGLE. Throw in 3 significant concussions, a broker tailbone, broken collar bone, a torn knee cartiledge operation, and various cuts/scars from getting "cleated" and that really makes you think, when you don't even get paid?!

Of course he pretty much gets all the beer he can drink, and the excuse to travel around the world chasing beautiful women, so it ain't all bad. Not too hard to keep Canadian happy.

Larry

 

[peplaw06]

Really, you could spend a lot more time than a second thinking about that......

A bunch of the guys playing up here in CFL play because of the love of football (and perhaps all that goes with it... celebrity status, women, etc). A number also play because it is the only thing they know how to do (probably still more fun than tarring a roof or digging trenches). Both are interesting concepts. I'm guessing Ricky Williams is playing up here because he owes a lot of money and wants to be able to get an NFL paycheck again next season if possible.

Now, my brother is even crazier. He is one of the top 50 Rugby players in Canada, so he basically is a substitute for the national team. Sometimes he travels with the team sometimes he doesn't. Rugby is similarly brutal on the body to football. HE DOESN'T GET PAID AT ALL!!! On the National Team and doesn't get paid. In fact, when he played for Canada's Junior World Cup team in France, he had to pay to get there.....BOGGLE. Throw in 3 significant concussions, a broker tailbone, broken collar bone, a torn knee cartiledge operation, and various cuts/scars from getting "cleated" and that really makes you think, when you don't even get paid?!

Of course he pretty much gets all the beer he can drink, and the excuse to travel around the world chasing beautiful women, so it ain't all bad. Not too hard to keep Canadian happy.

Larry

Outside of Soccer in Europe and the big 4 American sports, professional athletes typically don't make millions. The rich athlete is the anomaly, not the other way around.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm just saying it's not that crazy that there are some football players making less than teachers and firemen, or it shouldn't be, pro sports making money is getting ridiculous compared to the people who make real impacts on the world, sorry, a little ranting

 

[stealth]

Gotta disagree Stealth.

In Greater Vancouver (Population 3-4 Million), where I live, average house price is about $500,000 now. Prices for homes have gone up from 50% to 100% over last 3 years in many parts of Vancouver and other places in Canada. Alberta is going crazy as well because of all the oil they got. Imagine a State or Province that has no sales tax and NO DEBT. Everyones moving there for work signing bonuses.

Most places in Vancouver are more expensive than the majority of cities in US now, particularly with the change in value of dollar.

5 years ago I'd go to Vegas and it would cost me almost $1.60 Canadian for $1 US. Now it's $1.10 Canadian for $1 US. You Yanks gotta watch that trade deficit, you guys have been spoiling yourselves for too long, hehe.

So the Price of Living arguement is a bit off. Mexico maybe, Canada no longer.

Most guys in CFL make significantly less than a teacher or firefighter or nurse etc. It's crazy.

LarryCanadian

I worked with a guy from canada I can't for the life of me remember where, but he went on and on about how the cost of living was ridiculus here. He made less than I did but held a higher position with the company and said until he got to texas he never thought he was getting screwed. He owned a 4 bedroom house and three cars. The guy may have been talking out of his butt, He seemed very sincere about it though.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I worked with a guy from canada I can't for the life of me remember where, but he went on and on about how the cost of living was ridiculus here. He made less than I did but held a higher position with the company and said until he got to texas he never thought he was getting screwed. He owned a 4 bedroom house and three cars. The guy may have been talking out of his butt, He seemed very sincere about it though.

you were both drunk

 

[stealth]

you were both drunk

I know I was :laugh2:

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I know I was :laugh2:

drunk Canuck: " I can barely pay my rent eh, I'm going to kill myself"

even drunker stealth: *wow, 3 cars*

 

[stealth]

drunk Canuck: "I can barely pay my rent, I'm going to kill myself"

even drunker stealth: *wow, 3 cars*

one of em was an all wheel drive subura wrx(or whatever the sporty one is) so ya I was kinda in awe how he managed to have all that and three kids and still be able to eat.

 

[LarryCanadian]

Canada is a bit strange in terms of demographics. 90% of Canadian live within a 1-2 hour drive from the US/Canada Border. Most of Canadians live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal and a few other big cities so close to the US, we go back and forth for shopping.

Now the Canadian you worked with, he could have lived in Whitehorse which is like Alaska, or he could live in Winnipeg. Places like that you can still get a 4000 square foot home for $100,000 maybe. Of course Whitehorse has 8 months of winter, and Winnipeg has mosquitos that could take down one of those A10 Warthog Tank buster planes you Yanks have. Pick your poison! We have beer everywhere though! And our nudy dancers are top notch if you go for that sort of thing!!

When you started the sentence "I worked with this guy from Canada" I held my breath thinking you were gonna ask if I knew him. Hehe. It's a standing joke up here that many people from US think everyone in Canada knows each other. We do have 30 Million people, yes that is 1/10th the population of US, but we are scattered across a country bigger than China, and bigger than the US, hehe, so it's tough to know everyone up here ; )

And to the poster that said most athletes don't get paid well, i'd agree that most general sports loving people don't get paid well, but athletes that are in sports for a living, can be paid pretty well in many sports outside of the big 4 in US. Hockey is huge in Nordic countries and Russia. Sumo and Baseball in Japan. Baseball in South America and Central America/Mexico. Rugby is massive in many parts of world, with really big leagues, multiple levels of divisions and 1000's of paid athletes. Golf is huge everywhere. Tennis is huge everywhere. Although Golf and Tennis rely on prize money for earnings, plus endorsements. Cricket and Field Hockey are big in many places. Soccer is mind boggling at many levels everywhere BUT US and Canada. Soccer is King of the world sports in terms of fan base and world wide employment.

It's more the amateur sports that don't get much pay recognition and the sports that aren't "popular" in their country. Never seen a flashy decathlete or gymnast, although I count those two athletes amongst the best in the world if I looked at it.

It's incredibly interesting to travel the world and see how passionate different countries are about their top 4 or 5 national sports and amazing how little if anything the average Canadian or US citizen knows about it (I'm including myself in that group). They have TV coverage on the level of what the NFL gets. They have reporter groups that make the Cowboys press corp look small. It's quite interesting!

Larry

 

[WarC]

I always wondered why Ricky Williams wasn't doing so well in the CFL.

What is so different about the game that makes it harder to rush?

 

[Crown Royal]

I always wondered why Ricky Williams wasn't doing so well in the CFL.

What is so different about the game that makes it harder to rush?

The canadian game is based so much on speed and finesse, whereas Ricky is a power runner with speed. His game doesn't translate to that huge field.