Future Salary Cap Hell (or not)

[xwalker]

As of this minute, the Salary Cap Hits in 2014 if CUT after 2013 for the top Contracts are:

(some of these will change drastically after restructuring)

$3,000,000.00 Brandon Carr
$2,721,750.00 DeMarcus Ware
$2,567,182.00 Morris Claiborne
$2,500,000.00 Jason Witten
$2,370,000.00 Orlando Scandrick
$2,000,000.00 Jay Ratliff
$1,570,000.00 Miles Austin
$1,162,500.00 Dez Bryant
$1,050,000.00 Nate Livings
$948,509.00 Tyron Smith
$833,333.50 Kyle Orton
$812,500.00 Mackenzy Bernadeau
$800,000.00 Gerald Sensabaugh
$750,000.00 Barry Church

There are the 2014 carry-over numbers from cutting these players now (2013):
$4,175,000.00 Doug Free
$1,400,000.00 Dan Connor

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Most teams deal with the same issues we do year in year out.

 

[speedkilz88]

Most teams deal with the same issues we do year in year out.

The ones that spend money do. I guess I should word it, the cheap organizations are the only ones who don't.

 

[hra8700]

Im not sure what the point of this thread is...is someone arguing that we will be in salary cap hell even if we cut all of our starters?

 

[LatinMind]

From the way Jerry and Stephan sound they dont seem to be thinking the cap will be as much of a problem as media and fans think. And if they arent as worried why is everybody else? Im sure they know more about it then we do.

 

[Nation]

I think the moral of the story is that restructuring deals in 2013 is not going to crush us in 2014 and beyond

 

[The Quest for Six]

I think the moral of the story is that restructuring deals in 2013 is not going to crush us in 2014 and beyond

It's been reported by Todd Archer that 2015,16 and 17 is going to be an issue with the cap for Dallas...you can restructure contracts but at some point you're going to have to pay the piper with regards to the Cap.

 

[DBOY3141]

Every year it's the same "we are in cap hell", if we don't fix it now, we will have to deal with it down the road.

It's all a shell game. They will keep who they want and sign who they want. A lot of times it's the wrong decision and thus we are 8-8, but it's never because of money.

 

[jrumann59]

Every year it's the same "we are in cap hell", if we don't fix it now, we will have to deal with it down the road.

It's all a shell game. They will keep who they want and sign who they want. A lot of times it's the wrong decision and thus we are 8-8, but it's never because of money.

Think about all the years the fans here were waitingon the Skins to hit cap hell and every year they eek out and sign big name FA. Though this year a 18mill is going to be tough to get out behind of but I am sure the skins will figure it out just like Dallas will.

 

[DBOY3141]

Think about all the years the fans here were waitingon the Skins to hit cap hell and every year they eek out and sign big name FA. Though this year a 18mill is going to be tough to get out behind of but I am sure the skins will figure it out just like Dallas will.

Yes they will.

 

[Nation]

It's been reported by Todd Archer that 2015,16 and 17 is going to be an issue with the cap for Dallas...you can restructure contracts but at some point you're going to have to pay the piper with regards to the Cap.

We have 11 players signed for 2017, 19 for 2016. That's just crazy talk.

 

[AbeBeta]

It's been reported by Todd Archer that 2015,16 and 17 is going to be an issue with the cap for Dallas...you can restructure contracts but at some point you're going to have to pay the piper with regards to the Cap.

I love that people on this board continue to say "but so and so said" when you have actual facts laid out for you in the thread. Actual numbers that make it clear that Archer has no idea what he is talking about. Facts matter.

 

[AbeBeta]

xwalker -- I wanna say that I appreciate what you do here.

Over and over presenting actual data. Actual information. It is a shame that it falls on deaf ears. It is a shame that people ignore facts.

 

[xwalker]

xwalker -- I wanna say that I appreciate what you do here.

Over and over presenting actual data. Actual information. It is a shame that it falls on deaf ears. It is a shame that people ignore facts.

Thanks.

 

[xwalker]

Im not sure what the point of this thread is...is someone arguing that we will be in salary cap hell even if we cut all of our starters?

The point is about how much commitment the Cowboys have in guaranteed money.

 

[skinsscalper]

Just be glad we're not the Steelers. You want to see some blood-letting? Watch that organization squirm come March.

 

[Wood]

It's been reported by Todd Archer that 2015,16 and 17 is going to be an issue with the cap for Dallas...you can restructure contracts but at some point you're going to have to pay the piper with regards to the Cap.

exactly...and that is what most are missing....future years Dallas is limited because the cap will NOT be expanding. This team is not 'one player' away. So to extend all these contracts Dallas maintains status quo with future limitations on going after FA. Its Jerry being short sighted and once again grossly over-valuing his current roster.

 

[xwalker]

exactly...and that is what most are missing....future years Dallas is limited because the cap will NOT be expanding. This team is not 'one player' away. So to extend all these contracts Dallas maintains status quo with future limitations on going after FA. Its Jerry being short sighted and once again grossly over-valuing his current roster.

The point of the post was that those reports are wrong or misleading. The amount of guaranteed money currently on the books for 2015, 2016, and 2017 is minimal and is less than the 2014 amounts that I posted.

The fact the Jay Ratliff has a 10M base salary in 2017 but Zero in prorated bonus money is an example of misleading.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

It's been reported by Todd Archer that 2015,16 and 17 is going to be an issue with the cap for Dallas...you can restructure contracts but at some point you're going to have to pay the piper with regards to the Cap.

If the cap stays what it is now, it sure will. But the new TV contrats and new money that comes with it kicks in, the cap is expected to swell after the 2013 season. You will still have to pay the piper, but the effect won't be as severe. That is unless Mara comes up with a new creative way to screw us.

 

[Wood]

The point of the post was that those reports are wrong or misleading. The amount of guaranteed money currently on the books for 2015, 2016, and 2017 is minimal and is less than the 2014 amounts that I posted.

The fact the Jay Ratliff has a 10M base salary in 2017 but Zero in prorated bonus money is an example of misleading.

current cap (2013) will be about 121.5 million. The projected cap for 2015 is about 123 million. In other words the salary cap will be flat for next three years.

Part of this comes from union deal with owners that shifted 7 million from future years into 2012 salary cap because of so many free agents in 2012 and low cap would have shifted all leverage to owners. Add on that teams were rolling over unused cap dollars into 2012 so 'excess' going forward has largely evaporated.

In other words....teams better make smart financial sense or they will be penalized heavily over next few years as there is no expanding salary cap to bail out poor decisions on signing/extending large contracts. Buyer beware.