FWST: BLOG: Felix might not return kickoffs

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i susbscribe to the jimmy johnson theory that ST are just as important as offense or defense. he should be returning kicks no questions asked. you put your best players on the field. yes, he may get hurt, but its football damnit.
 

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Teague31;2199458 said:
i susbscribe to the jimmy johnson theory that ST are just as important as offense or defense. he should be returning kicks no questions asked. you put your best players on the field. yes, he may get hurt, but its football damnit.

Agreed. If he can do in the NFL what he did in college he has to be out there. Big KR's can be game changing. Whether it's a TD or great field postion.
 

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Teague31;2199458 said:
i susbscribe to the jimmy johnson theory that ST are just as important as offense or defense. he should be returning kicks no questions asked. you put your best players on the field. yes, he may get hurt, but its football damnit.
Did you subscribe to that theory right after TNew got popped on the punt return?
 

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Little Jr;2199461 said:
Agreed. If he can do in the NFL what he did in college he has to be out there. Big KR's can be game changing. Whether it's a TD or great field postion.

So can guys who can spell MBIII and provide an incredible change of pace in the backfield, both as a runner and receiver.

It's all about maximizing your resources! Stanback, get your butt out there! :laugh2:
 

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peplaw06;2199475 said:
Did you subscribe to that theory right after TNew got popped on the punt return?

Tnew is a starter, Felix is not.
 

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Teague31;2199479 said:
Tnew is a starter, Felix is not.

Oh, he'll have the look of of a starter when you see how much they use him.

He's not a starter like Reggie Bush isn't a starter. That dude is going to be on the field A LOT.
 

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peplaw06;2199475 said:
Did you subscribe to that theory right after TNew got popped on the punt return?

I was at that game. That was a shot. He came back though. I just feel like your best guys should be on the field. If FJ is clearly the best KR then he needs to be out there. If hes a 10 and someone else is a 9 or 9.5 then I would understand them saving him. I just dont think anyone will be close to him on KR's and if that is the case he needs to be out there.
 

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cowboys2233;2199477 said:
So can guys who can spell MBIII and provide an incredible change of pace in the backfield, both as a runner and receiver.

True. But we have game changers on O. Can you have to many on O? Of course not. But you cant have to many on ST's either. You cant go into a season not playing your best players becasue you're afraid of injuries. The O did fine without FJ last year. Will he help the O this year? I'd put a lot of money on it. I think he could help our ST's just as much if not more.
 

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Teague31;2199479 said:
Tnew is a starter, Felix is not.
Then you need to amend your theory...
Teague31;2199458 said:
i susbscribe to the jimmy johnson theory that ST are just as important as offense or defense. he should be returning kicks no questions asked. you put your best players on the field. yes, he may get hurt, but its football damnit.
 

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Yeagermeister;2199426 said:
I would motion him out of the backfield in to the slot. That would cause some confusion. At the very least it should cause a LB to cover Witten :drool:.

Hostile;2199433 said:
Exactly Doc, exactly. Instant matchup problem.

I had visions of JuJo doing this then ???? Been awhile since we had someone who could go inside and still be a threat on the outside like that. I vastly underestimated this kid. I'm glad Jason and all saw this.

I wish we had an OL who could run a good screen.
 

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Little Jr;2199495 said:
I was at that game. That was a shot. He came back though. I just feel like your best guys should be on the field. If FJ is clearly the best KR then he needs to be out there. If hes a 10 and someone else is a 9 or 9.5 then I would understand them saving him. I just dont think anyone will be close to him on KR's and if that is the case he needs to be out there.

I tend to agree with that. I hated that Parcells refused to use Newman on punt returns, and Felix is even better at KO returns than Newman was at punts. So I'd hate to see that talent go unused. I mean, you could argue that Felix was one of the better KO returners of the last many years.

But that said, part of what was frustrating on punts was that Crayton was so pedestrian. If someone else like Stanback could really be that good and almost as dangerous as Felix on KOs, maybe you do let that someone else do it, because kickoffs are a lot more dangerous than punts.
 

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Little Jr;2199502 said:
True. But we have game changers on O. Can you have to many on O? Of course not. But you cant have to many on ST's either. You cant go into a season not playing your best players becasue you're afraid of injuries. The O did fine without FJ last year. Will he help the O this year? I'd put a lot of money on it. I think he could help our ST's just as much if not more.


It's one thing to be afraid of injuries, but you need to be sensible about it. Kickoff coverage teams have a lot of time to set up and get in their lanes, so I think straight-line speed is more important than anything, you need to get up to the 20 as fast as possible, possibly make one cut and then go. Punt returning allows for more wiggle room, because of the way the coverage sets up, a little more random and spaced out than kickoff coverage. Plus, kickoff coverage units are coming at a really high rate of speed.

That's why you see guys with quick feet like a Newman or Pacman returning punts, but often times see guys who are less used on offense or defense (but with a lot of straight line speed) returning kickoffs, like a Tyson Thompson or Stanback.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2199512 said:
I tend to agree with that. I hated that Parcells refused to use Newman on punt returns, and Felix is even better at KO returns than Newman was at punts. So I'd hate to see that talent go unused. I mean, you could argue that Felix was one of the better KO returners of the last many years.

But that said, part of what was frustrating on punts was that Crayton was so pedestrian. If someone else like Stanback could really be that good and almost as dangerous as Felix on KOs, maybe you do let that someone else do it, because kickoffs are a lot more dangerous than punts.

Yeah, dont even get me started on Newman not returning punts.


I would have no problem with Stanback being a KR if he can be as dangerous or very close to it. I just dont see it happening though. That being said, if he is then they should both be back there.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2199512 said:
I tend to agree with that. I hated that Parcells refused to use Newman on punt returns, and Felix is even better at KO returns than Newman was at punts. So I'd hate to see that talent go unused. I mean, you could argue that Felix was one of the better KO returners of the last many years.

But that said, part of what was frustrating on punts was that Crayton was so pedestrian. If someone else like Stanback could really be that good and almost as dangerous as Felix on KOs, maybe you do let that someone else do it, because kickoffs are a lot more dangerous than punts.

I say you have to at least put him back there and see what he can do on this level. I think punts are more dangerous because usually less ground to cover for coverage and teh returner is more likely to be blindsided. Add in the fact that Felix seems to have excellent vision and I just don't see him taking a blind shot.

How many KO returners do you really see get hurt? That's all I'm saying. Punt returners? Yes. KO returners? No.
 

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Shoulda drafted someone else if we're not going to use Felix to his strengths.
 

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Man cant believe we are going to waste his talent. Sad we are scared of people getting injured, it happens.

People are putting way to much confidence in Stanback. What has he done to deserve it. Yea he had a decent return last week but what has he done besides that? Heck Patrick "Fair Catch" Crayton has one good punt return but do you want him back there every punt?
 

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This is crazy. F.Jones needs to return kickoffs on this team.he is our backup RB on a 45 man gameday roster.and he is one of the best kickoff returners i have ever seen. if special teams is as important as Jerry and others say it is.jones has to be the man.this guy needs as many touches as we can give him.you can get hurt on any play Jerry.
 

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felix is the next faulk/dickerson/dorsett....he wont have time to run back kickoffs ....he is the next big thing trust me....
 
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STSINAZ;2199905 said:
felix is the next faulk/dickerson/dorsett....he wont have time to run back kickoffs ....he is the next big thing trust me....



Chris Johnson will return kickoffs for the Titans. *Ducks the batteries and chairs*:D
 
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