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No interest in Beck, yet

According to a Miami Herald report, the Cowboys have expressed interest in Dolphins second-year quarterback John Beck.


And that the Cowboys were willing to part with a low round pick.


It's true that the Cowboys have been evaluating Beck in anticipation of him being the odd man out in Miami following the acquisition of former Jets quarterback Chad Pennington.


But, according to a team source, the Cowboys done nothing more than evaluate. The source said the Dolphins contacted them to gauge the team's interest in Beck.


And, according to the source, the Cowboys have none at the moment.
Now that could change as cut down day approaches. But the source said if the Cowboys do make a move for Beck it would more likely be for a player who is not going to make the Cowboys roster rather than a draft pick.


The Cowboys have made no secret of their interest in finding a young backup quarterback to groom as Tony Romo's understudy for the future.


Brad Johnson will be the backup this season. Third quarterback Richard Bartel has not shown enough for the Cowboys to project him into that role.


Clarence E. Hill Jr.


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We evaluate without having interest in a player?

Evaluation doesn't mean definitely acquiring to me, but that is fuzzy math IMO.
 

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Hostile;2199374 said:
We evaluate without having interest in a player?

Evaluation doesn't mean definitely acquiring to me, but that is fuzzy math IMO.

Wrong!!! That's down right hairy math.:)
 

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he is on the burner because he is not a BP guy like Pennington. doesn't mean he sux you guys know how BP is about HIS guys:D
 

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bbgun;2199416 said:
Fins have given up on him after one year? Sounds rash.
I have a friend named Jared who knows John Beck. According to Jared he says John has long believed that Bill Parcells does not like him. In fact, Jared told me that as soon as Bill was hired by the Dolphins John figured his time there was done.

I do not know anything beyond that and I did ask him to clarify why he thinks that. All he replied was, "John swears Parcells has never liked him."

Just food for thought.
 

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No Beck talks yet

4:46 PM Mon, Aug 18, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Cowboys have done a background check on Miami quarterback John Beck, but they have not had talks with the Dolphins regarding a potential trade for the 2007 second rounder, according to two sources.

After signing Chad Pennington and drafting Chad Henne in the second round, Beck and Josh McCown are in a fight for the No. 3 quarterback slot. The loser, in all likelihood would be cut or traded.

According to the sources, the Dolphins contacted the Cowboys - and other teams - about Beck shortly after coming to terms with Pennington. Owner and general manager Jerry Jones has expressed a desire to find a long-term backup to Tony Romo with Brad Johnson turning 40 next month.

Beck, 27, started four games last year, completing 60-of-107 passes for 559 yards with one touchdown and three interceptions.



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Pennington, Henne shine in exhibition

BY CARL KOTALA • news-press.com sports bureau • August 18, 2008

Joey Harrington, Daunte Culpepper and Cleo Lemon all started for Miami during his rookie season. Last year, it was Trent Green, Lemon and John Beck.

Some of the changes were made because of injury. Some were made because, well, frankly the other guy wasn't getting it done.

But after he defeated the Jacksonville Jaguars 19-14 in Saturday's second preseason game, Hagan could barely contain a big smile. It seems the Dolphins may have found their quarterback for 2008 as well as their quarterback for the future.

And they're both named Chad.

Chad Pennington completed 5-of-6 passes for 55 yards and led the Dolphins to 10 points in his Miami debut Saturday night. Rookie Chad Henne played the rest of the way, completing 17-of-26 passes for 133 yards and nine points.

Josh McCown and John Beck, who had been going back and forth in their battle for the starting job in the offseason and at the start of training camp, didn't even see the field.

"It was great," Hagan said of playing with Pennington. "Him being in that huddle, taking control of the huddle, that's something we've definitely been missing.

"We know we're going to have a quarterback that's going to be back there every week. We're not going to be switching quarterbacks every single week like we have the past three years. It just feels so good knowing he's back there. He can take control of the huddle and once we get on the same page, the sky is the limit."

Hagan was equally glowing about Henne, who has outplayed McCown and Beck in training camp and gotten more playing time than any Dolphins quarterback in the first two preseason games.

Last week against Tampa Bay, Henne led Miami to a pair of Dan Carpenter field goals.

Guard Justin Smiley said earlier in the week that Henne certainly doesn't act like a rookie quarterback. Hagan agreed.

"We know he's a rookie, but this is two games in a row that he's come out and played well," Hagan said. "He threw a couple of passes my way that were definitely right on the money and I made those plays for him. There were some pretty nice balls that he threw to Ernest down the field that were unfortunately batted down, but ... he's going to be a real good quarterback.

"You can definitely see it. He's confident, he's trying to show that leadership and he's just going to keep getting better every day."

With Pennington and Henne having clearly established themselves, the only thing left to decide at the position for Miami is whether it will keep McCown or Beck.

The prevailing thought is that it will be McCown, in part because the current regime signed him and gave him a $2.5 million bonus. Getting rid of him would be akin to admitting a mistake. Beck was drafted by the previous administration and will likely be traded or released.

While there were admittedly some communication issues that still need to be worked out following Saturday's game, Pennington seemed happy with his performance.

"It was fun, No. 1," he said afterward. "I enjoyed being out there with the guys. My whole goal in this game was to have a smooth operation."

Considering no Dolphins quarterback has started all 16 games since Jay Fiedler did it in 2001, Miami could use the kind of stability it hopes Pennington can bring.

It isn't official yet, but the Dolphins likely know who their starter will be on Sept. 7 when they open the regular season at home against the New York Jets. They also know who is the heir apparent.

And that's a comforting thought the Dolphins haven't had in a long, long time.

"Big Chad, he's obviously going to mentor little Chad," Hagan said. "And we're definitely expecting Big Chad to be the leader of this team. It's all going to take time, but we're all definitely going to come together. We're just waiting for the Jets now."

"It was great," Hagan said of playing with Pennington. "Him being in that huddle, taking control of the huddle, that's something we've definitely been missing.

"We know we're going to have a quarterback that's going to be back there every week. We're not going to be switching quarterbacks every single week like we have the past three years. It just feels so good knowing he's back there. He can take control of the huddle and once we get on the same page, the sky is the limit."

Hagan was equally glowing about Henne, who has outplayed McCown and Beck in training camp and gotten more playing time than any Dolphins quarterback in the first two preseason games.

Last week against Tampa Bay, Henne led Miami to a pair of Dan Carpenter field goals.

Guard Justin Smiley said earlier in the week that Henne certainly doesn't act like a rookie quarterback. Hagan agreed.

"We know he's a rookie, but this is two games in a row that he's come out and played well," Hagan said. "He threw a couple of passes my way that were definitely right on the money and I made those plays for him. There were some pretty nice balls that he threw to Ernest down the field that were unfortunately batted down, but ... he's going to be a real good quarterback.

"You can definitely see it. He's confident, he's trying to show that leadership and he's just going to keep getting better every day."

With Pennington and Henne having clearly established themselves, the only thing left to decide at the position for Miami is whether it will keep McCown or Beck.

The prevailing thought is that it will be McCown, in part because the current regime signed him and gave him a $2.5 million bonus. Getting rid of him would be admitting a mistake. Beck was drafted by the previous administration and will likely be traded or released.
 

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Beck has been surpassed by a rookie. Beck had all offseason to to get acclimated to sparano's system, but he's looked terrible in training camp and hasn't shown any progression from last season. Beck just dosen't have any prescence on the field. He's only 6'1 not that big, and small hands. I didn't see anything from him in college that made him worthy of a second round pick. I'd rather have simms.
 

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WoodysGirl;2199457 said:
No Beck talks yet

4:46 PM Mon, Aug 18, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Todd Archer E-mail News tips

The Cowboys have done a background check on Miami quarterback John Beck, but they have not had talks with the Dolphins regarding a potential trade for the 2007 second rounder, according to two sources.

After signing Chad Pennington and drafting Chad Henne in the second round, Beck and Josh McCown are in a fight for the No. 3 quarterback slot. The loser, in all likelihood would be cut or traded.

According to the sources, the Dolphins contacted the Cowboys - and other teams - about Beck shortly after coming to terms with Pennington. Owner and general manager Jerry Jones has expressed a desire to find a long-term backup to Tony Romo with Brad Johnson turning 40 next month.

Beck, 27, started four games last year, completing 60-of-107 passes for 559 yards with one touchdown and three interceptions.



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The Commanders should take notice, those numbers are much better than Campbells.
 

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miamicowboy21;2199592 said:
Beck has been surpassed by a rookie. Beck had all offseason to to get acclimated to sparano's system, but he's looked terrible in training camp and hasn't shown any progression from last season. Beck just dosen't have any prescence on the field. He's only 6'1 not that big, and small hands. I didn't see anything from him in college that made him worthy of a second round pick. I'd rather have simms.

Ahhh, but does Red believe in him? Wasn't Garrett the QB coach when Beck was drafted?
 

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Addressing The Beck Rumors
Posted by rphillips at 8/18/2008 5:37 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com


There’s a Miami Herald report stating the Cowboys are dangling a low-round draft pick as potential trade bait for Dolphins second-year quarterback John Beck, who could get caught in a numbers crunch at final cuts.


Here’s the deal: Miami did contact the Cowboys about Beck, but it’s unlikely the Cowboys would be willing to trade a draft choice for the Dolphins’ former second-round pick who made four starts in five games as rookie last season, completing 60 of 107 passes for 559 yards (one touchdown, three interceptions).


The Cowboys have indeed expressed interest in finding another backup quarterback with experience this off-season, but any acquisition would likely settle into a No. 3 role given Brad Johnson’s experience and his knowledge of the Cowboys’ system.
This past Saturday against Denver, the 39-year-old Johnson quieted recent criticism about his ability to manage a game by completing 9 of 12 passes for 114 yards and a touchdown against the Broncos’ starting defense.

First-year quarterback Richard Bartel also seemed more comfortable in the pocket. Trailing 20-13 late in the fourth quarter, he led the offense to the Denver 10-yard line before getting intercepted.

Chad Pennington’s decision to sign with Miami appears to make either Beck or veteran Josh McCown expendable because the Dolphins’ 2008 second-round pick, Chad Henne, is a sure bet to make the roster. If released, Beck might make sense for the Cowboys because he’s a young quarterback who would have time to develop behind Romo and Johnson. But don’t count on the Cowboys relinquishing a pick to get him.

-Rob
 

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dogberry;2199705 said:
Any chance Tampa will cut Luke McCown?
Doubt it. They already let Gradkowski go and are expected to release Simms.

BTW, the McCown brothers both grew up as Cowboys fans.
 

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Thanks, I got greedy. Tampa has Garcia, Griese, and Johnson. Thought maybe Sims and McCown would both be cut. McCown looked good to me the other night. (But I was a really bad cross county guy so I might have missed something) Would be nice to have a fan on the team.
 

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..at Rd. #2 for the Fins last year and nobody really expected it when Cameron took him there.

This was one of the reasons Cameron was fired. Could be a trade for Carp for this guy. Might be all we could get for Carp..unfortunately. And BP deserves to finish the job he started with drafting Carp in the first place.

BP doesn't want Beck as he doesn't have the quick delivery or quick feet at this point and he's a project. BP doesn't have time for projects that aren't better suited to the offense being run..which is going to be strictly 10-20 yards downfield throws and lot's of quick timing stuff as they have no speed WRs there.

Lot's of 2-TE and running the ball..we've seen how effective that is.

So I'm sort of puzzled about this speculation unless this is just a give away trade the Fins are looking for. It might be Ok to take him as a #3..but not very excited about him being #2 at this point for next year.

He'd have to really improve to do that. But maybe Garrett knows something about him we don't.

Ya think..?

Hahaa..

:starspin RedBall ExPreSS:starspin
 

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Cbz40;2199682 said:
Addressing The Beck Rumors
Posted by rphillips at 8/18/2008 5:37 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com


There’s a Miami Herald report stating the Cowboys are dangling a low-round draft pick .................. But don’t count on the Cowboys relinquishing a pick to get him.

-Rob

So it is a player picked in the low rounds. Can anyone say Ball? Maybe Brown? I just don't see it being Stanback. Ahh, McQuistan reunited with Bill Parcells.
 
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