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Rumors abound as NFL draft looms
By CHAREAN WILLIAMS
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You don't know what to believe or who to believe this time of year. Is it a smokescreen? Is it true? So take what you hear with a grain of salt.

Today, we've heard the Cowboys are trying to trade up to get Texas safety Earl Thomas. Depending on who you hear it from, they're either trying to trade with the 49ers or the Titans. They have had no contact with Thomas, though, and he seems small for what they want in a safety. Another rumor says they're high on USC OT Charles Brown. He's been the Cowboys' choice in a lot of mock drafts. Not that it means anything, but the Cowboys didn't have him in for a visit.

Let's be honest: No one, not even the Cowboys, knows who is going to be there at No. 27. Some player is going to fall, and it could be a player the Cowboys like. Everyone expects Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant and Idaho G/T Mike Iupati to be gone when Dallas drafts. But again, who knows?

It is a good bet that USC safety Taylor Mays will be there at No. 27.

Maryland OT Bruce Campbell's stock seems to be falling, and unless Al Davis selects him eighth overall, Campbell could fall out of the first round.

The Chiefs are poised, I hear, to pull off another draft-day surprise. It's hard to even guess who would be a surprise at No. 5. Not picking Tennessee safety Eric Berry or an OT would be a surprise to me, no matter the player. Both of those are needs for Kansas City.

The 49ers could be the landing spot for Jimmy Clausen, with the Yorks ties to Notre Dame. But can the 49ers afford another quarterback mistake? They better be sure if they're going to pick him. If the 49ers pass on Clausen, I could see him falling out of the first round.

Texans won't take S Thomas

The Houston Texans will not take Texas safety Earl Thomas with the 20th pick, if he is still on the board. They like him, but they feel like they have bigger needs at running back and cornerback. They expect Clemson running back C.J. Spiller to be gone by the time they draft. But if Fresno State running back Ryan Mathews still is available, mark him in your mock draft. That's the safest pick you'll make after the first four choices.

Steve Slaton was a 1,200-yard rusher as a rookie, but he had a neck injury last year. Gary Kubiak told me he thought Slaton's decline last season in his second year had a lot to do with the neck. Dr. Andrew Dossett, one of the Cowboys' team physicians, did the surgery on Slaton after the Texans put him on injured reserve. While the Texans are confident Slaton will be as good as new, there has to be some uncertainty there. It is a neck injury, after all. They also have to ask themselves how much did the neck injury contribute to the seven fumbles that Slaton had.

There is no doubt the Texans have to run the ball better if they are going to get to the playoffs. They ranked fourth in total offense, first in passing, but only 30th in rushing. Their lack of a running game on the goal line cost them two games, and a playoff berth.

So Mathews if the pick if he's there. If he's not, they love Rutgers cornerback Devin McCourty. They like McCourty more than Boise State's Kyle Wilson. McCourty will be there if Mathews isn't, and the Texans would have their replacement for Dunta Robinson.

TCU's Hughes could be higher pick

TCU outside linebacker Jerry Hughes' stock is rising on the eve of draft day. Don't be surprised if he goes as high as No. 23 to the Packers. His teammate, Daryl Washington, could sneak into the first round too. The Saints are expected to pick the best defender on the board at No. 32, and that could be Washington.
 
This board will will go bananas if we trade up to 13 or 16 and take Charles Brown
 
GloryDaysRBack;3359340 said:
This board will will go bananas if we trade up to 13 or 16 and take Charles Brown

As they should.
 
So, here's the trade that's going to happen.

Dallas
Pick 27 (1st Rd) - 1003 points
Pick 59 (2nd Rd) - 384 points
Martellus Bennett - 321 points (equal to an early 3rd round pick, apprx #65)

Total points given up - 1708

Tennessee
Pick 16 (1st Rd) - 1472 points
Pick 77 (3rd Rd) - 236 points

Total points given up - 1708



As it is, Tennesee is currently missing a 2nd round pick and has an extra 3rd. This trade allows them to recoup the missing 2nd, add a receiving threat and still have a shot at a guy like Devin McCourty or Tyson Alualu in the first. Dallas gets the safety they need and keeps the same number of picks in the top 100.

With this scenario, our draft becomes...

1 - Earl Thomas - S - Texas
3 - Taylor Price - WR - Ohio
3 - Dorrin Dickerson - TE/H-Back - Pittsburgh
4 - Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama

edit: just throwing in 6th and 7th round selections

6 - Jason Fox - OT - Miami
7 - Danny Batten - ILB - South Dakota St.
 
masomenos85;3359497 said:
So, here's the trade that's going to happen.

Dallas
Pick 27 (1st Rd) - 1003 points
Pick 59 (2nd Rd) - 384 points
Martellus Bennett - 321 points (equal to an early 3rd round pick, apprx #65)

Total points given up - 1708

Tennessee
Pick 16 (1st Rd) - 1472 points
Pick 77 (3rd Rd) - 236 points

Total points given up - 1708



As it is, Tennesee is currently missing a 2nd round pick and has an extra 3rd. This trade allows them to recoup the missing 2nd, add a receiving threat and still have a shot at a guy like Devin McCourty or Tyson Alualu in the first. Dallas gets the safety they need and keeps the same number of picks in the top 100.

With this scenario, our draft becomes...

1 - Earl Thomas - S - Texas
3 - Taylor Price - WR - Ohio
3 - Dorrin Dickerson - TE/H-Back - Pittsburgh
4 - Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama


good work..did you come w this scenario?
 
Is Mike Nolan still in Denver?

I predict who ever Mike Nolan coaches will try and get Thomas.
 
masomenos85;3359497 said:
So, here's the trade that's going to happen.

Dallas
Pick 27 (1st Rd) - 1003 points
Pick 59 (2nd Rd) - 384 points
Martellus Bennett - 321 points (equal to an early 3rd round pick, apprx #65)

Total points given up - 1708

Tennessee
Pick 16 (1st Rd) - 1472 points
Pick 77 (3rd Rd) - 236 points

Total points given up - 1708



As it is, Tennesee is currently missing a 2nd round pick and has an extra 3rd. This trade allows them to recoup the missing 2nd, add a receiving threat and still have a shot at a guy like Devin McCourty or Tyson Alualu in the first. Dallas gets the safety they need and keeps the same number of picks in the top 100.

With this scenario, our draft becomes...

1 - Earl Thomas - S - Texas
3 - Taylor Price - WR - Ohio
3 - Dorrin Dickerson - TE/H-Back - Pittsburgh
4 - Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama

Wait....we are giving up a 1st, 2nd, and Bennett in return for a 1st and 3rd from the Titans???

HELL NO!!!!


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GloryDaysRBack;3359508 said:
good work..did you come w this scenario?

Yeah, just based off the trade values from Adam's post in the draft zone and then looking at who was around our picks in Goose's Top 100.
 
It is going to be a very interesting draft.

No cap, only one round on day one with a huge amount of layover before round two, threat of a lock out, deep draft class, and tons of veteran players that seem to be available.
 
Beast_from_East;3359511 said:
Wait....we are giving up a 1st, 2nd, and Bennett in return for a 1st and 3rd from the Titans???

HELL NO!!!!

Think of it like this...

In order to trade up 11 spots in the 1st, we trade down 18 spots in the 2nd/3rd and give up a backup. Sounds more palatable like that, I think.
 
masomenos85;3359533 said:
Think of it like this...

In order to trade up 11 spots in the 1st, we trade down 18 spots in the 2nd/3rd and give up a backup. Sounds more palatable like that, I think.

I still dont like it.:mad:
 
masomenos85;3359497 said:
So, here's the trade that's going to happen.

Dallas
Pick 27 (1st Rd) - 1003 points
Pick 59 (2nd Rd) - 384 points
Martellus Bennett - 321 points (equal to an early 3rd round pick, apprx #65)

Total points given up - 1708

Tennessee
Pick 16 (1st Rd) - 1472 points
Pick 77 (3rd Rd) - 236 points

Total points given up - 1708



As it is, Tennesee is currently missing a 2nd round pick and has an extra 3rd. This trade allows them to recoup the missing 2nd, add a receiving threat and still have a shot at a guy like Devin McCourty or Tyson Alualu in the first. Dallas gets the safety they need and keeps the same number of picks in the top 100.

With this scenario, our draft becomes...

1 - Earl Thomas - S - Texas
3 - Taylor Price - WR - Ohio
3 - Dorrin Dickerson - TE/H-Back - Pittsburgh
4 - Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama

edit: just throwing in 6th and 7th round selections

6 - Jason Fox - OT - Miami
7 - Danny Batten - ILB - South Dakota St.
No way Thomas gets past the Giants if for some reason he was s till undrafted.
 
masomenos85;3359529 said:
Nolan is in Miami.

Ah crap!

I predict he goes to them then.

He uses defensive sets where he roles the Nickle Corner to Safety and make the Safety into a corner.

Basically disguises who the safety is pre-snap.
 
CATCH17;3359510 said:
Is Mike Nolan still in Denver?

I predict who ever Mike Nolan coaches will try and get Thomas.


D.C. coordinator for the Miami Dullphins.
 

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