Gadget play against the blitz

[waldoputty]

Quick slants are always a good way to neutralize alot of blitzes. For whatever reason, that play has been purged from our playbook.

Slants are nice.
But my primary point is reaction time and preventing mistakes/disasters such as fumbles and ints.
I also think the D would have to adjust their calculus in reaction to such a formation.

 

[ConstantReboot]

We don't need a gadget play to stop the blitz. Just call more screens which for some reason we never do.

Add in more draw plays. That 60 yard run by Zeke that was called back was a draw play. I don't know why we don't call more screens to Zeke and draw plays.

 

[waldoputty]

The QB could line up in shotgun and then take a 7 step drop.

it is really a matter of allowing the QB to react and read the defense.
that is particularly important to a rookie QB.
furthermore, the impact to the D may be substantial.
the psychology of having to run 10 yards to try to tackle a mobile Dak is daunting.
they may have to back off on the blitz thereby making Zeke also more effective.

 

[xwalker]

it is really a matter of allowing the QB to react and read the defense.
that is particularly important to a rookie QB.
furthermore, the impact to the D may be substantial.
the psychology of having to run 10 yards to try to tackle a mobile Dak is daunting.
they may have to back off on the blitz thereby making Zeke also more effective.

My point was that he would get to punter depth without a long snap required.

 

[waldoputty]

My point was that he would get to punter depth without a long snap required.

I understand that reduces the risk of the long snap.
If TFred cannot do it, then he cannot.
Question is can he not do it, or the snap is just a little slower?

The increased gap offered by punter's depth makes it really hard for the rushers to close in on someone like Dak.

Also Zeke can simply pitch it back to Dak when he gets the snap, runs a sweep or does a flea flicker.

 

[robbieruff]

I like your creative thought process, but:

The degree of difficulty of completing a pass increases with distance. Any pass would obviously be longer with the QB further back.

Also there is no pocket for the QB to step into. If a pass rusher gets loose, the sack would be an extra big loss of yardage. If the QB needs to throw the ball away, it needs to get back to the line of scrimmage which is now farther away.

Most speed rushers are streered wide of the QB by the OTs which would actually be difficult with the QB farther back.

Lastly, Fred is not a deep snapper so snapping directly to the QB would not be a good option.

My points in this thread exactly...bats in the belfry to think otherwise...

 

[Nightman]

Adding extra pitch plays to and subtracting blockers from the play is a great way to create turnovers and get people killed

This is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever seen around here

 

[Seven]

Just keep slinging the rock downfield.

Hit a couple of those.............Bingo - Bango.

 

[waldoputty]

Adding extra pitch plays to and subtracting blockers from the play is a great way to create turnovers and get people killed

This is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever seen around here

I beg to differ.
Look at Dak's mistakes in the last 2 games.
An extra second or two would be game-changing.

If one were to evaluate the chance for mistakes in an extra pitch vs erratic passing in a heavy blitz, I suspect it is safer to make the pitch.
Also it is the psychology of it, the defense may react by blitzing less.
That would make the pitch safer also.

 

[Nightman]

I beg to differ.
Look at Dak's mistakes in the last 2 games.
An extra second or two would be game-changing.

If one were to evaluate the chance for mistakes in an extra pitch vs erratic passing in a heavy blitz, I suspect it is safer to make the pitch.
Also it is the psychology of it, the defense may react by blitzing less.
That would make the pitch safer also.

Dumb with a capital D and U

the D wouldn't have to blitz if you lined up like a bunch of clowns with your QB 15 yds deep

talk about circumcising a mosquito

 

[waldoputty]

Dumb with a capital D and U

the D wouldn't have to blitz if you lined up like a bunch of clowns with your QB 15 yds deep

talk about circumcising a mosquito

Shotgun QB is 3-4 yards from line.
Punter is ~10 yards from the line.
Demarcus Lawrence's 10 yard split time is 1.62 with an active OL to stop him.
The extra time and distances give the QB room to manuever, escape and read the defense and WRs to get open.
5 extra yards is not going to kill the pass completion %.

 

[TheHerd]

Slants to Dez would end blitzing. I cannot for the world understand why Dez doesn't get 4 slant targets per game.

 

[waldoputty]

Slants to Dez would end blitzing. I cannot for the world understand why Dez doesn't get 4 slant targets per game.

I still say playing the QB back a few yards would do wonders for addressing the blitz
more reaction time would make the defense think twice.

 

[guag]

again...who snaps the ball in your scenario?

Ol' #91 LP Ladouceur, baby!

I still say playing the QB back a few yards would do wonders for addressing the blitz more reaction time would make the defense think twice.

Hell, if LP can manage to snap the ball in a non-ST situation and hold his ground for a few seconds at center, maybe it could work. Then use Frederick elsewhere on the line as an extra lineman instead of Witten perhaps.

 

[waldoputty]

Ol' #91 LP Ladouceur, baby!



Hell, if LP can manage to snap the ball in a non-SP situation and hold his ground for a few seconds at center, maybe it could work.

interesting but would limit our running game up the middle. it would be a trade off. i guess tfred can play guard and martin can play rt.

 

[waldoputty]

Just keep slinging the rock downfield.

Hit a couple of those.............Bingo - Bango.

i still remember the fluttering passes down the field to dez.
did not look so good.
not enough time.

 

[Nightman]

Shotgun QB is 3-4 yards from line.
Punter is ~10 yards from the line.
Demarcus Lawrence's 10 yard split time is 1.62 with an active OL to stop him.
The extra time and distances give the QB room to manuever, escape and read the defense and WRs to get open.
5 extra yards is not going to kill the pass completion %.

Punter is 15 yds deep and your idea is DUMB and would never be implemented on any team

 

[waldoputty]

Punter is 15 yds deep and your idea is DUMB and would never be implemented on any team

well line the qb ~8 to 10 yards behind the line.
nevermind how far the punter is behind the line.
but you have many possibilities to pick from - 4 yards to 10 yards behind the line.

i already posted how long it would take a player to do a 10 yard split.
we are talking a difference of 4-6 yards further than the shotgun...

 

[HoosierCowboy]

We have a rookie QB--he has been great for a rookie but he is limited. We have killed the blitz in the past because Romo is a smart veteran QB.

 

[Nightman]

well line the qb ~8 to 10 yards behind the line.
nevermind how far the punter is behind the line.
but you have many possibilities to pick from - 4 yards to 10 yards behind the line.

i already posted how long it would take a player to do a 10 yard split.
we are talking a difference of 4-6 yards further than the shotgun...

Like others have said and you are ignoring....the way to beat the blitz is slants, screens and gos

Not some sandlot offense