Game of Chicken between Cowboys and Texans?

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Trading Romo was never going to be easy. His contract with the Cowboys is cost prohibitive for others teams to take on as is, so it will have to be restructured. This gives Romo the leverage he needs to, in effect approve or disapprove any trade deal. If he doesn't like the trade all he has to do is not agree to restructure.
 

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I'm saying you have to be prepared to keep him all season if you really want to get a pick for him. If you're not willing to do that then it will be Jerry that will eventually blink and be forced to release him. Everybody understands all the cap angles. Yes, the quicker he is gone the better for the cap but then you get no pick.

i guess my focus what was is credible to other teams.
i dont think they would believe that we would keep romo all year.
i dont know to sell that.
the more the cowboys say the less credible.
my angle is to get a benefit with romo, houston needs him in camp before beginning of the season.
 

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I guess common sense and logic are being ignored right now due to the off-season free agency meltdown.

The Texans knew Brock was not their quarterback of the future. They realized they overpaid for him. They found a trade partner willing to eat his contract, which was a miracle given the size of his contract and how badly he played last year. They had to find a perfect trade partner, one that wanted draft picks more than money and the player, and one that had the salary cap to absorb the contract and they found one in the Browns. They would have made that trade even if Romo had already been traded to another team, because it was in their best interest.

Let's say you bought a house two years ago that you are upside down in, meaning you owe more than the house is worth. You want to move and have your eye on a house that several people want. A buyer approaches you and says they will not only buy your current house for market value but also pay whatever difference you would owe after the sale. Do you accept that offer without knowing whether you will be able to buy the house you want? Absolutely, you do! Why? Because there are two issues at play, not one. First, you have a house that will be very hard to get rid of yet you someone is offering you a way out of that mess right now. Second, you have a new house you want to get. The first problem has to be solved before the second problem is even an actual option, so you focus on solving the first problem first.

Do you really think the Texans have no other plans in place assuming they do not get Romo? They have likely talked with other teams about trades for veteran quarterbacks, especially current backup quarterbacks, where they could help the other team like Cleveland helped them, meaning eating a bad or no longer wanted/needed contract. They have also likely talked with other free agent quarterbacks as well.

Sure, Romo is likely their main target, but they also realize that Romo may end up somewhere else. Either way, by trading Brock, they fixed the immediate problem with his contract and, more importantly, they have made it possible to move quickly should they make a deal with Dallas or Romo is released or some other quarterback option becomes available.

but certainly, they could have done the trade AFTER romo was released?
 

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but certainly, they could have done the trade AFTER romo was released?
What if the Browns were no longer interested then? What if the Browns no longer had the cap room due to other signings? What if the Browns had already traded the pick Houston received in return?

As I said, the Texans first problem was their most pressing one, and it was a problem that needed to be resolved regardless of Romo. Fans, especially Cowboys fans, are making the assumption that the only reason they made that trade was for Romo, but that's not the case. If it were, they would have waited until Romo was released or they would have had an agreement in place with the Cowboys. The fact that the Browns were willing to do that trade, it was a gift you don't risk delaying or putting off on the hopes of working another deal, especially when the trade itself helps you regardless of any other potential future deals.
 

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I think someone has offered something but not what Jerry wants yet and/or they're trying to restructure Romo's deal. Either way, I think some team is offering something and negotiations are taking place. Perhaps the Texans thought they stood no chance over Denver if Romo was released and told Jones that they were interested.
 

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Mike Glennon is like 4-13 as a starter, has only thrown 11 passes in the last two years and just signed a 14 mil a year contract. Grappapolo (spelling) has played only 6 qtrs his entire career and the Pats are rumored to want a 1st this year and next ( the Browns are rumored to thinking about it). Meanwhile, you have a qb who has over 10 yrs of starting experience, has more 4th qtr comebacks than any other qb in the history of the league, with 14 mil a year salary who is willing to restructure his contract supposly for the right team and no one is willing to trade for him. I know he is injured and old but Grappapolo got injured. Romo should be well rested then(I know I stole the line from the movie the Replacements). I might be a homer when it comes to our players but if I am the Texans with that defense and those WRs I would make a trade for Romo. I would give my 1st. They have a small window with Watt and that defense. They need to seize the opportunity when it presents itself because they might never have the opportunity again. Just my 2 cents.
 

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What if the Browns were no longer interested then? What if the Browns no longer had the cap room due to other signings? What if the Browns had already traded the pick Houston received in return?

As I said, the Texans first problem was their most pressing one, and it was a problem that needed to be resolved regardless of Romo. Fans, especially Cowboys fans, are making the assumption that the only reason they made that trade was for Romo, but that's not the case. If it were, they would have waited until Romo was released or they would have had an agreement in place with the Cowboys. The fact that the Browns were willing to do that trade, it was a gift you don't risk delaying or putting off on the hopes of working another deal, especially when the trade itself helps you regardless of any other potential future deals.

the texans had plenty of cap space even before the trade.
since the trade, it appears that they have only signed a $2M contract.

that trade made total sense for the browns, and they would never be able to use 100M of cap space.
certainly they could have delayed announcing the news on selling the pick by 1 day?
it also 'announced' that the texans would play fast and loose with the draft picks, obviously not something a negotiator want to announce.

if i were the texans, i would have at least waited 24 hours.
 

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Just wait until another team's QB gets injured ala Teddy Bridgewater. Then the price for Romo will increase.
 

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I am not sure I see reason to release Romo now. I don't see anyone really in FA worth going for. Release or trade him after 2017 season.
 

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Team activities begin in a month or so.
Dallas would not want to risk Romo getting hurt then and being on the hookfor the full salary (14 mil) and cap of 24 mil.

Then again, most feel Jerry would rather Romo be in Denver than Houston. But Houston seems to have more interest...as they should

is that before the draft or after the draft?
 

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I'm saying you have to be prepared to keep him all season if you really want to get a pick for him. If you're not willing to do that then it will be Jerry that will eventually blink and be forced to release him. Everybody understands all the cap angles. Yes, the quicker he is gone the better for the cap but then you get no pick.

I really can't imagine more than a second or third for Romo. Do you really think a third round pick is worth all the damage that does? I wouldn't call it Jerry blinking but more so coming to his senses. That being said Jerry should have given the indication he was planning on keeping him all along, clearly that ship has sailed.
 

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Houston is flailing for Tony Romo. Why else would Tony still be here? Houston knows they have no chance in a bidding war with John Elway. Dallas has all the leverage here.
 

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Tony Romo is actually a pretty valuable commodity. If the market doesn't want to pony up...just keep that value for the Cowboys. Don't rush into a diminished return upon what one already has in his possession. Keep the value then...that is a value.
 

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The Houston and Denver interest in Romo is most likely media driven.
Thought about this all day. Checked out the QB situation on both teams. I respectfully completely disagree with your assessment. Neither one of those teams could be expected to compete for their division title let alone for a SB with what they currently have on their roster at that specific position.
 
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