Gamesmanship in the Meadowlands (Simeon Rice)

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Rice on menu for Giants
Sources: Ex-Buc to meet with Big Blue tomorrow

By RALPH VACCHIANO
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

ALBANY - Simeon Rice always insisted he's a better player than Michael Strahan. Very soon, the Giants might find out for sure.

Rice, the 33-year-old defensive end who has had a running feud with Strahan for the last nine years, is scheduled to come in and visit the Giants tomorrow, according to two NFL sources. With the 35-year-old Strahan holding out of training camp and threatening to retire, the Giants are exploring their options and want to see if Rice is healthy enough to take Strahan's place.

Rice became available Thursday when he was cut by Tampa Bay. The Bucs said he failed a physical due to a shoulder injury that limited him to eight games last season. But Rice claimed he was waived when he refused to take a pay cut from the $7.25 million he was due this year.

The Giants likely will give him a physical tomorrow, but even if he passes it, Rice told reporters in Tampa that he needs at least three more weeks to rehabilitate his shoulder. However, if the Giants are satisfied with Rice's progress, they do plan to discuss a contract with him, according to a source.

When that will be is still something of a mystery. As of last night, Strahan and Tom Coughlin had exchanged several messages, but had yet to speak to each other. And GM Jerry Reese hadn't had any conversations with Strahan's camp since he spoke with the DE's agent, Tony Agnone, Thursday night.

Strahan, according to sources close to him, is home in California pondering his options. He has set no timetable to make his final decision.

However, the Giants' flirtation with Rice could push him over the edge. According to one source, Strahan is likely to be livid when he hears of Rice's visit. Not only has the seven-time Pro Bowler had a long-running war of words with Rice, but he also knows Rice will be expensive. And considering Strahan was rebuffed in his efforts to get a raise on his $4 million salary, he's not likely to be happy to see big money possibly going to someone else.

The fact that it's Rice will make it worse. The public sniping between the two of them dates back to 1998, when Rice was still an Arizona Cardinal. As recently as last August, Rice said, "Year in and year out, Michael Strahan is a great player. But he's still not me."

Strahan's response: "If you don't want to pay attention to what the defense is counting on you to do, if you just want to run up the field and get sacks, then you can be a Simeon Rice. You can have big numbers but you don't have the respect of defensive ends.

"He seems to be a little bit jealous of something," Strahan added. "I don't know what it is."

Perhaps it's the fact that Rice, a 6-5, 268-pounder, is second among active players with 121sacks. Strahan, of course, is first with 132-1/2, but that fact seemingly had no effect on Rice's ego. When he was cut by the Bucs, Rice said, "I'm the best that ever did it and they never gave me my props."

This actually is the second time the Giants have flirted with Rice. In 2001 they tried to lure him to become Strahan's teammate with a contract worth approximately $5 million per year. But he was looking for an annual salary closer to $7 million, so the Giants instead settled on Kenny Holmes.

That season, Rice began a string of five straight years with at least 10 sacks, totaling 67-1/2 over that span. The streak ended last year, his 11th NFL season, when he played in only eight games and registered only two sacks.

Rice also has drawn interest from the Tennessee Titans, who reportedly are trying to set up a visit as well.
 

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They are also considering Marcellus Wiley if Rice doesn't work out.

I am very frightened.
 

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Rice is no Strahan by far!! Strahan does it all, rushes the passer and plays the run as well as any DE in the league. Rice only goes wide to the QB. I'll take Strahan over Rice any day of the week...
 

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Anytime Strahan (or any Jint) gets the business, it's great.

I think Mike, like any wily old vet, is just trying to get out of training camp, and just incidentally make it about more cash - if he can get it great, if not, he's missed a few humid days or weeks of pure drudgery.

I saw Tom Coughlin on tv mentioning he got the notice from Strahan about not coming to camp on his message machine, a call left after 11:30 PM, and when the coach called the player back, he got no return call. Phone tag, and Mike stopped playing.

This is typical Jints ego stuff - and in a year when a head coach's job is most definitely on the line, I don't blame him for refusing to kowtow to egos, laziness, or whatever other prima donna crap that vainglorious and under-achieving bunch has to offer.

Rice might be a sack of $!#? at this point, but what greater SPUR to MS to haul his lazy, greedy carcass into camp than just dropping Simeon's name into the mix?

Gotta love it.

Coughlin is playing hard ball this year.:laugh2:
 

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LaTunaNostra;1567614 said:
Coughlin is playing hard ball this year.:laugh2:


In my view this is past due. Coughlin should have done some of this last year. The lunatics have definitely been running the asylum up there.
 

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I'd be surprised if Strahan holds out long. He had to pay big bucks to his former wife as part of their divorce and no doubt wants to make as much as he can over few years he has remaining. It's kind of funny tho that he wants more then his $4M with all the stats he's put up but Ellis no happy with his $2.5M w/o all those great stats.
 

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lspain1;1567617 said:
In my view this is past due. Coughlin should have done some of this last year. The lunatics have definitely been running the asylum up there.

Well, Mr Wonderful Tiki has taken his outspoken self out of the mix, so there will less outright public second-guessing of the HC.

But in NY, that vacuum has to be filled by someone - and I don't see Eli confident enough yet to start braying.

That means shockey, plex, and mike make up the main chorus this year - it will be interesting to see if the song has changed at all.
 

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Yes, it's about the money. But it's also about a 35-yo body that doesn't want to endure the rigors of training camp.
 

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bigbadroy;1567681 said:
so the giants must really be thinking strahan will retire

He would be a fool to retire.

They are just calling his bluff.

This is much like the Ellis situation, except that Strahan actually has talent.

But neither player is approaching this like they have a brain.

Both are after the almighty dollar and somehow feel they are special and should be entitled because they have been loyal.

Except I can excuse Strahan. He has an ex-wife who took him to the cleaners.

I do not know what Ellis' excuse is.
 

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Alexander;1567688 said:
He would be a fool to retire.

They are just calling his bluff.

This is much like the Ellis situation, except that Strahan actually has talent.

But neither player is approaching this like they have a brain.

Both are after the almighty dollar and somehow feel they are special and should be entitled because they have been loyal.

Except I can excuse Strahan. He has an ex-wife who took him to the cleaners.

I do not know what Ellis' excuse is.
so do you think its just a ploy to get mike in camp?
 

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bigbadroy;1567690 said:
so do you think its just a ploy to get mike in camp?

Either way they are preparing.

If he "retires" they at least have a body.
 

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I do not want the Giants to get Rice. He will give our tackles problems with his upfield speed.
 
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