Garret misses another coaching decision

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Down 21 to 19 Garret fails to go for a two point conversion. Can anyone explain that blunder?
 
Actually, if we went for two there and didn't make it, the touchdown at the end would have forced us to go for two again to bring it to 3. He had confidence in our offense that we would be able to score again. While still it still being in the 3rd quarter, I think it was the right call. Plenty of football to be played.
 
Pokes12;3762230 said:
Down 21 to 19 Garret fails to go for a two point conversion. Can anyone explain that blunder?

Because generally you do not chase the points at that time unless you just have too. I seen the all mighty Belchick not chase it is not a big issue
 
Pokes12;3762230 said:
Down 21 to 19 Garret fails to go for a two point conversion. Can anyone explain that blunder?


that is simple.

Lot of time left in the game and the defense is completely untrustable.

so if you go for two with a qb who hasnt taken a snap in practice all week against the best redzone defense in the league and dont make it....

well if they score a td your down 9.

by kicking the extrapoint even if they score a td your only down 8.

so the thought process must have been our defense can hold them to 1 td for christs sake and we will go for two only when he absolutely have to because of the qb.
 
It was the third quarter. Usually, at that point in the game, you take the points and worry about going for two later if need be
 
Pokes12;3762230 said:
Down 21 to 19 Garret fails to go for a two point conversion. Can anyone explain that blunder?

It wasnt a blunder and as all 3 guys guys calling the game said, it was the right call.

Over a qtr to go in the game.
 
I agree with Garrett. There was still plenty football to be played to have to go for 2.
 
The general rule of thumb is that you don't even look at the "chart" until the 4th quarter. Before that, you just take the extra point.
 
Even the idiots on the tv set said it was the righ choice to kick the EP and not go for 2.

It's coaching. Good coaching.
 
Pokes12;3762230 said:
Down 21 to 19 Garret fails to go for a two point conversion. Can anyone explain that blunder?
Dude, it was the 3rd quarter. No Coach goes for 2 at that point. Please look up when to go for 2 points on Google or something. This is just misinformed completely.
 
Hostile;3762312 said:
Dude, it was the 3rd quarter. No Coach goes for 2 at that point. Please look up when to go for 2 points on Google or something. This is just misinformed completely.

A Dallas Cowboys fan misinformed HOS? lol who would have thought? It's kinda like the same people who want to point fingers at Roy Williams-Barber-Miles & Buehler, even though sure they did f up, but instead of being smart enough to realize the defense cost us another game
 
There have been 65 times since the two-point conversion was instituted in the NFL when a team that trailed by 8 points scored a touchdown in the third quarter. Teams have gone for two (to try to tie the game) 42 times and have attempted a PAT kick 23 times.

Personally, I would have gone for it, because I didn't think either offense was likely to score another touchdown. But it's not a cut-and-dried situation either way, which is why plenty of teams have chosen each option.
 
AdamJT13;3762326 said:
There have been 65 times since the two-point conversion was instituted in the NFL when a team that trailed by 8 points scored a touchdown in the third quarter. Teams have gone for two (to try to tie the game) 42 times and have attempted a PAT kick 23 times.

Personally, I would have gone for it, because I didn't think either offense was likely to score another touchdown. But it's not a cut-and-dried situation either way, which is why plenty of teams have chosen each option.


Agreed, the rational attempt seems to always bear out. But for the last fifteen years, rational hasn't caused the team to bear out and overcome adversity. That itself takes a rational approach, and knowing when to side with statistical relevance and when just to do what your players need to overcome their own problems. Dallas had no strong indicator that it was able to overcome it's game deficiencies. Much less the ability of McGee to lead the team to anywhere approaching the promised land. Hence, a begining point to apply statistical relevance...that is merely wishful thinking.

Brutal but true, take the points and gamble on meeting up with expectations from that point...
 
It was the right call.

Buehler missed PAT and was the difference NOT Garrett NOT going for 2.
 
Pokes12;3762230 said:
Down 21 to 19 Garret fails to go for a two point conversion. Can anyone explain that blunder?

That is convenient hindsight, because you wouldn't be threading this if Buehler would have made that extra point kick which is supposed to be automatic.
 
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You don't chase point there...had they failed to get the two points, and circumstances played out the exact same way the Cowboys would have been up by one and forced to make another two pt conversion. You just don't chase points until you absolutely have to, the call was correct and it would have played out so, if wasn't for a crappy kicker.
 
The reason you don't go for two is that if you manage to hold the other team to a field goal, then if you score a TD you will be up by 3 and a field goal won't beat you. That is, if your kicker can convert the extra point.

The key point of logic is that you must hold the opponent to a FG (or two FG's). If they score another TD, then it is better to go for two earlier, so you know what you have to do to win. IOW, if you miss the conversion in the 3rd quarter, then at least you will know you need two scores if the opponent scores.

I didn't like the decision because I thought the Cowboys were unlikely to score another TD with McGee at the helm, and as a result they were passing up one of very few opportunities they would have to move out of a trailing position.

I'm not sure how confident I was that Dallas could convert the 2-pt conversion, but it was worth a shot.
 
Pokes, I have watched enough football to know that you are completely wrong. I have seen scenario after scenario where the team behind goes for 2 prematurely, misses it, and it comes back to haunt them....

I have concluded that if the game is within one or two scores, you never go for 2 unless it is in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter, or the last 7:30 of the game. Even then, if you can, hold off even longer and take the gimme points.

Now, what Garrett should have done was gone for 2 after the last TD, since Beuhler likes to miss PATs..........SHEESH:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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