Garrett = Andy Reid version 2.0?

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First off, I'd like to say this is not a bash Garrett thread. I think he's actually one of the most talented coaches in the NFL.

Even Houdini could not have escaped any blame for leading a team to a 1-7 start while Wade took all the heat, muchless parlay that situation into a promotion. We should have all appreciated Garrett's talent at that point alone. It takes a true, true PROFESSIONAL to blow the lead we had vs. the Jets and then gather yourself up and figure out how to coach your team into blowing an even more secure lead (24 points to be exact) a couple weeks later. Also, I LOVE how good he remains at evading criticism. It's like nobody even noticed his 4th down debacle against the Commanders where he called a timeout to punt, and how he conveniently got his rookie center thrown under the bus for failing to adjust to the cadence issue. Now all the heat is on Romo for that Lions game. That is awesome.

Garrett is a uniquely talented individual in this sense and I think we're very lucky to have him help keep this team at 0.500. He also speaks in such a deep voice during press conferences. Gosh I love that deep voice and how he preaches discipline, but that I don't see an improvement in discipline at all over the last couple years. I don't see much improvement in him as OC over that time period also. Anyway...I just read the following excerpt about Reid, and it reminded me of Ginger Tecmo Bowl genius quite a bit. Anyone else see an Andy Reid version 2.0 firmly implanting himself into this organization for 13+ years like they have over in Philly?

"A classic Andy season thus far: The Eagles have outgained their opponents by 275 yards, notched 25 more first downs, held the ball for 16-plus more minutes … and they're 1-3. Last week's Niners debacle featured Andy's usual goal-line struggles, an inexplicable pass/run ratio (how can a team that led 23-3 finish with a 2-to-1 pass/run ratio) and the 573rd time I made the "Andy needs to hire a 14-year-old pimply faced Madden junkie to help him with clock management down the stretch" joke (as Mike Lombardi pointed out, it's the umpteenth straight year that Andy botched the "how do you handle your timeouts around the two-minute warning?" dilemma, which isn't really a dilemma because there's only one way to handle it)"
 
I sure hope not. Although there are some scary similarities.
 
UVAwahoos;4170424 said:
First off, I'd like to say this is not a bash Garrett thread.

And then you proceed to backhandedly bash him. Cool.
 
Reid and his Eagles are 1-8 their last 8 games. They were having issues before this year's Dream Team yet many are not mentioning it.
 
Reid is a great offensive coach but he is actually 10x worse than JG at game management. Sad thing is JG is in his first full season as a head coach. JG is going to learn from his mistakes and get better, Reid seems to make the same bad decisions over and over.
 
Andy Reid has some skins on the wall, he has won multiple division titles and taken his team to the SB.

If it was not for McChunky blowing Campbell soup all over the field in the 4th quarter, Reid would have a ring by now.


Garrett is 7-5 as a HC in the NFL and soon to be 7-6 since Brady has lost like 2 games at home in his entire career.
 
Beast_from_East;4170467 said:
Andy Reid has some skins on the wall, he has won multiple division titles and taken his team to the SB.

If it was not for McChunky blowing Campbell soup all over the field in the 4th quarter, Reid would have a ring by now.


Garrett is 7-5 as a HC in the NFL and soon to be 7-6 since Brady has lost like 2 games at home in his entire career.

Reid is also 1-7 over his last 8 games. He lost a first round playoff game, promoted the OL coach to DC, and has made a very suspect decision at QB. Not to mention all the money that was spent in the off season. The Eagles have not been the same since they lost Johnson as their DC.
 
viman96;4170480 said:
Reid is also 1-7 over his last 8 games. He lost a first round playoff game, promoted the OL coach to DC, and has made a very suspect decision at QB. Not to mention all the money that was spent in the off season. The Eagles have not been the same since they lost Johnson as their DC.

Look at that roster, though. They've started to be like the Skins instead of what they used to do, which was build through the draft.
 
viman96;4170480 said:
Reid is also 1-7 over his last 8 games. He lost a first round playoff game, promoted the OL coach to DC, and has made a very suspect decision at QB. Not to mention all the money that was spent in the off season. The Eagles have not been the same since they lost Johnson as their DC.

Agreed, Johnson and that defense was just amazing.


As far as Reid goes, I was talking more about his career than recent events. To compare Garrett to somebody that has taken their team to the SB is laughable at this point.

What exactly has Garrett done to get such praise? He is barely a .500 HC. In time, if Garrett wins division titles and takes the Boyz to the SB, I will give him all the credit in the world.

Until then, he has done jack to be praised for.
 
I've gone on record numerous times stating that I love the idea of Garrett as our HC, but I do NOT like him as an OC. I don't like any HC having multiple duties like that because I think it just puts too much on their plate. I have also said that I don't like the fact that Garrett is too pass happy in certain situations. However, I do think he will learn as he goes and will improve in every facet of NFL coaching. Regardless, I still wish he would hire an OC. Reid has no excuse. He has been around for a long time and will NEVER change. I'm glad too because he won't win a Super Bowl handling his team in the manner he does. Unless Philly turns the ship around VERY soon, I think Reid might just be gone after the season is over, if not before. That having been said, I do not see any way Philly turns it around enough to make the playoffs this year. :D
 
Oh, let's not forget that the Eagles have just recently sunk MILLIONS of dollars into two players that are in their 30's, both of which are showing they were greatly overrated. :D This could set their organization back years. :D
 
Well I know one place where this comparison fails.

Garrett will still be employed at season's end.
 
rcaldw;4170488 said:
Hey wrestling guy, you are a one trick pony.

Not true at all. I comment on plenty of different subjects. Just asking a simple question here for some bye week discussion.
 

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