Garrett is seriously playcalling like a scolded child

[chinch]

you guys give just-a-coach too much credit for everything, including "reacting to critics".

the guy is on jerry's fantasy island... immune to all his players griping (every receiver/te and TO except jason g. LOL). immune to criticism because he's an ivy-league graduate and you're not! he knows football better than everyone!

He is jerry's cherry picked coaching tree root!

Unfoortunately in the real world... where results speak louder than hopes & dreams.... the guy is a flippin football moron with no feel for the game. outcoached each day of the week, especially on sunday.

 

[joseephuss]

What game did you watch? 14 to 33 isn't even close to the pass-run ratio. Romo attempted 27 passes, was sacked once, and scrambled twice for positive yardage -- that's 30 passing plays and 31 rushing plays (since two of our 33 attempts were scrambles).

And that's without counting the multiple "kill, kill" hand-offs that were called pass plays Romo audibled into runs.

Garrett ran the ball because it was moving the offense down the field. The passing game wasn't, and that had very little to do with not calling enough pass plays. When we called passes, Romo was missing receivers and receivers were dropping passes or not getting open. The problem was execution and perhaps which specific passing plays were called, but not the pass-run ratio.

The comparison was 14 rushing attempts last week compared to 33 this week.

 

[SultanOfSix]

or maybe he thought the Commanders had the worst run defense in the league and were missing starters on the defensive line, and that we could pick up chunks or 5 and 8 yards a carry running straight up the middle, and that Marion Barber wouldn't fumble the ball in the red zone...

Yeah, but as a game manager, you would expect him to run a play action once in a while as a result, don't you think?

Like the original poster referred to, I personally don't get a sense of appropriate game management from JG. Football is all about keeping your opponent guessing. If a team sucks at running, and you keep pounding it, they're eventually going to stack the box and stop it. When they do, you hit them deep with play action. Even Aikman mentioned this during the broadcast a few times, but when did we see it? You create mismatches that keeps the defense off balance. We had zero points through three quarters in the past three games.

 

[iceberg]

Yeah, but as a game manager, you would expect him to run a play action once in a while as a result, don't you think?

Like the original poster referred to, I personally don't get a sense of appropriate game management from JG. Football is all about keeping your opponent guessing. If a team sucks at running, and you keep pounding it, they're eventually going to stack the box and stop it. When they do, you hit them deep with play action. Even Aikman mentioned this during the broadcast a few times, but when did we see it? You create mismatches that keeps the defense off balance. We had zero points through three quarters in the past three games.

and still have less losses than the giants or the steelers.

their fans must be ready to overhaul the entire team at this point, going by our own standards.

 

[NinePointOh]

The ratio only evened out when we were forced to throw to try to catch up late in the game.

That applies to the Packers game as well. Our pass-run ratio was perfectly normal until after we fell behind by 3 possessions with 10:00 remaining and we were forced to throw almost exclusively the rest of the game. Why would we excuse "balanced" ratios because of a few drives in the two-minute offense if we ignored almost an entire quarter of playing catch-up one week before?

plays <50 yards don't count.

Right, sorry. In that case, we ran 0 plays all game. But hey, 0 runs and 0 passes for 0 yards is balanced!

The comparison was 14 rushing attempts last week compared to 33 this week.

I suppose I can see that now, though the OP didn't state it very clearly. Still, my point is that the problem wasn't our ratio at all, but the execution of the passing plays that were called. It's not like we were picking up first downs left and right through the air and getting stuffed in the run game. The runs were working (save for Barber's fumble) and the passes weren't. That just proves that it's very difficult to run your way to victory when your passing game isn't working.

 

[Don Corleone]

So Tony Romo never checks out of the play that Garrett calls at the line based on what the defense is showing?

It is asinine to put it all on Garrett.

"Omaha, Omaha!"

 

[casmith07]

The misdirection/counter with Felix Jones was notably absent for the Nth week in a row. If anyone knows when was the last time we saw that playcall, let me know.

 

[casmith07]

So Tony Romo never checks out of the play that Garrett calls at the line based on what the defense is showing?

It is asinine to put it all on Garrett.

"Omaha, Omaha!"

Oftentimes, the Omaha call is simply part of the snap cadence. It's a false audible - I can't remember which week but there was a week in which Romo was mic'd up and you can hear him call the play in the huddle and then say "on Omaha, break".

 

[Stautner]

That would be incorrect. See the link in my post above.

In the first half we ran the ball 23 times and threw 13.

In the second half we were pretty even until the scoring drive, where we
we threw the ball 8 out of 9 times, and the only run came on a pass play where Romo had to scramble. THAT's when things evened out.

 

[SultanOfSix]

and still have less losses than the giants or the steelers.

their fans must be ready to overhaul the entire team at this point, going by our own standards.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

 

[YosemiteSam]

In the first half we ran the ball 23 times and threw 13.

In the second half we were pretty even until the scoring drive, where we
we threw the ball 8 out of 9 times, and the only run came on a pass play where Romo had to scramble. THAT's when things evened out.

I've already did a complete breakdown of the passes and runs during the game. You should take a look at that post.

 

[JBond]

I'm not a big Garrett believer, but the criticism is going overboard.

I kept thinking yesterday that maybe we ran as much as we did because Romo was hurt and they didn't want to expose him to more hits, especially with Doug Free making his first start.

That seems logical to me. More so than the original OP.

 

[iceberg]

I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

mostly after a loss, suddenly we take garrett apart piece by piece and everything he's doing wrong.

if we win the only real consolation is that most of the WAH'ing will fall on roy for whatever reason.

we complain and gripe about how bad he is but he's gotten us to 7-3, which is better than the giants and/or pittsburgh right now. but look how bad we treat the owner, the coaches, the players....

if you don't get my point, then my bad. not really trying to make one in as much as saying people get too wrapped up in it at times.

 

[Stautner]

I've already did a complete breakdown of the passes and runs during the game. You should take a look at that post.

I looked at your post, and it tells me exactly what I told you. Your post backs up exactly what I said.

The ratio of run to pass for the game evened out when we had to pass in order to catch up. It was our scoring drive in the 4th quarter where things evened out. Whether looking at your numbers or mine (which were only slightly different), THAT's what it tells us.

 

[NinePointOh]

In the first half we ran the ball 23 times and threw 13.

In the second half we were pretty even until the scoring drive, where we
we threw the ball 8 out of 9 times, and the only run came on a pass play where Romo had to scramble. THAT's when things evened out.

What about the first half would lead you to believe we'd have scored points by calling more passing plays?

With the exception of Barber's fumble, every one of our first half drives ended with an incomplete pass on 3rd-and-5, 3rd-and-6 (twice), or 3rd-and-8. Three of those four drives ended with two consecutive passes.

Meanwhile, 6 of our 9 first downs in the first half came on runs. Our lack of execution in the passing game was killing drives, and our execution in the running game was, except for the fumble, extending them. The reason the scoring drive was successful was because, for once, we actually started completing the passes we were throwing.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I looked at your post, and it tells me exactly what I told you. Your post backs up exactly what I said.

The ratio of run to pass for the game evened out when we had to pass in order to catch up. It was our scoring drive in the 4th quarter where things evened out. Whether looking at your numbers or mine (which were only slightly different), THAT's what it tells us.

We are down by 6 points with seven minutes to go, so we go into pass only mode? I'm sorry, but you could run the ball every single play without ever passing the ball when you have over seven minutes left. We were NOT in a 2 minute offense.

I believe there are probably (2) very likely causes for it. First, the Cowboys were moving the ball when they passed 11 straight plays. (scoring the TD) Secondly, Garrett had to even up the run to pass ratio or he would have gotten buried again. (he deserves it anyhow for that 70% run to start the game)

 

[NinePointOh]

Garrett had to even up the run to pass ratio or he would have gotten buried again. (he deserves it anyhow for that 70% run to start the game)

What in the world is wrong with a 70% run ratio when the running plays are going consistently for 4-9 yards and the passing plays are consistently killing your drives? Would you rather adhere to your pre-determined ratio and go 3-and-out, or would you rather move the ball with an unbalanced ratio?

 

[YosemiteSam]

What in the world is wrong with a 70% run ratio when the running plays are going consistently for 4-9 yards and the passing plays are consistently killing your drives? Would you rather adhere to your pre-determined ratio and go 3-and-out, or would you rather move the ball with an unbalanced ratio?

It has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with not being predictable, which Garrett is very predictable. Though, I do agree. If they cannot stop the run, then you run on them. (it tires a defense faster)

Still, you use the run to setup the pass and he did not do that. When they were driving down the field pounding them with the run on every play. That is the perfect time to setup play action pass down field.

 

[Stautner]

What about the first half would lead you to believe we'd have scored points by calling more passing plays?

With the exception of Barber's fumble, every one of our first half drives ended with an incomplete pass on 3rd-and-5, 3rd-and-6 (twice), or 3rd-and-8. Three of those four drives ended with two consecutive passes.

Meanwhile, 6 of our 9 first downs in the first half came on runs. Our lack of execution in the passing game was killing drives, and our execution in the running game was, except for the fumble, extending them.

First, whether or not I believe we should have passed more in the first half was not part of my discussion with nyc. That discussion was simply that he said we had an even run to pass ratio, and I said that the ratio only evened up late in the game when we had to pass to catch up.

Neverthless, I don't mind discussing your question. For me it's not the number of passing plays I'm that concerned with, it's the kind of passing plays and when they are called. When you establish the run the way we did, you should use it to your advantage, and it should set up some key passing plays.

As they say, effective running sets up the pass, but we didn't take advantage of that. The Skins were scrambling to try and stop the run, and we should have taken advantage by ocassionally using play action on a down where they expected yet another run and taken a few shots. Instead we only passed in predictable spots, and with either no play fake at all or only a barely token pretense of it.

I'm not talking about getting reckless or switching to a focus on the pass, but just taking full advantage of the situation to get an ocassional bigger chunk of yardage than the 5-10 yard runs, and get downfield a little quicker rather than having to rely on a 12+ play drive.

 

[Stautner]

We are down by 6 points with seven minutes to go, so we go into pass only mode? I'm sorry, but you could run the ball every single play without ever passing the ball when you have over seven minutes left. We were NOT in a 2 minute offense.

I believe there are probably (2) very likely causes for it. First, the Cowboys were moving the ball when they passed 11 straight plays. (scoring the TD) Secondly, Garrett had to even up the run to pass ratio or he would have gotten buried again. (he deserves it anyhow for that 70% run to start the game)

You COULD run every down, and continued to stagnate. The running game had become ineffective as a result of being too predictable. We hadn't had consistent success running for most of the middle part of the game, and THAT's why we had to pass when we did.

Regardless of whether we could have run or not though, that doesn't change the original point of our exchange, which is that the run/pass ratio didn't even out until late in the game when we were behind and had to change focus in order to try and score.