Garrett Passing On 1st Down

[egn22]

does this drive anyone else crazy? Murray was doing a fantastic job and garrett kept going back to the pass.
I mean a win is a win, but his playcalling style will continue to be a problem against a better defense.

 

[links18]

Garrett wants to pass to set-up the run. The Cowboys best run play is the draw. Will that change with Murray giving us another dimension in the running game? I don't know.

 

[Galian Beast]

You don't understand football. I'm not Garrett supporter, but you should have heard Aikman say it himself. Romo does a great job of audibling and checking out of plays.

The Cowboys call two plays, one pass, one run. If it's a called run play, and Romo comes up to the line and the defense is stacking up against the run, it doesn't matter if it's first down, he is probably going to check out of that run play, and go to the pass.

If you don't want to wait til I forget the name of the poster puts up the video of the game, go watch the patriots game. See how Romo will make adjustments at the line.

 

[Future]

You don't understand football. I'm not Garrett supporter, but you should have heard Aikman say it himself. Romo does a great job of audibling and checking out of plays.

The Cowboys call two plays, one pass, one run. If it's a called run play, and Romo comes up to the line and the defense is stacking up against the run, it doesn't matter if it's first down, he is probably going to check out of that run play, and go to the pass.

If you don't want to wait til I forget the name of the poster puts up the video of the game, go watch the patriots game. See how Romo will make adjustments at the line.

How do you know one is pass one is run?

That's scary if true, especially since we run shotgun a billion times per game.

 

[Galian Beast]

How do you know one is pass one is run?

That's scary if true, especially since we run shotgun a billion times per game.

That is how it is done. I think you're confusing hot routes with audibles...

They call two plays.

A run play and a pass play.

All the players need to know BOTH plays.

When Romo gets to the line, he reads the defense, and examines which play he thinks is more appropriate the run or the pass.

After that he makes adjustments to the play. Those adjustments are hot routes. But he isn't out there calling plays at the line of scrimmage.

When you run hurry up or no huddle, I believe there is a different system in place for getting the plays out.

 

[Future]

That is how it is done. I think you're confusing hot routes with audibles...

They call two plays.

A run play and a pass play.

All the players need to know BOTH plays.

When Romo gets to the line, he reads the defense, and examines which play he thinks is more appropriate the run or the pass.

After that he makes adjustments to the play. Those adjustments are hot routes. But he isn't out there calling plays at the line of scrimmage.

When you run hurry up or no huddle, I believe there is a different system in place for getting the plays out.

Don't insult me I know the difference between a hot route and an audbile :laugh2:

What I'm asking, is how do you know that the Cowboys call a run and a pass? Has JG ever said that's what he does? Why couldn't he call a slow developing complex pass and a quick one? Or a screen and a deep ball?

If so, it's really frightening to think how much shotgun we run, because there's really only one run play you can utilize out of that - the draw. So defenses can simply line up to stop that, know it's not coming, and know that there's a pass.

 

[Galian Beast]

Don't insult me I know the difference between a hot route and an audbile :laugh2:

What I'm asking, is how do you know that the Cowboys call a run and a pass? Has JG ever said that's what he does? Why couldn't he call a slow developing complex pass and a quick one? Or a screen and a deep ball?

If so, it's really frightening to think how much shotgun we run, because there's really only one run play you can utilize out of that - the draw. So defenses can simply line up to stop that, know it's not coming, and know that there's a pass.

It's pretty common knowledge. Sorry for insulting you, but if you don't know about the two calls, I don't know where your knowledge is on our team.

 

[AdamJT13]

We've run the ball 46.95 percent of the time on first-and-10.

That's a higher percentage than the Packers (45.24), Giants (43.50), Patriots (43.04) or Saints (38.35).

 

[Nav22]

We've run the ball 46.95 percent of the time on first-and-10.

That's a higher percentage than the Packers (45.24), Giants (43.50), Patriots (43.04) or Saints (38.35).

I love when facts put the kibosh on a silly thread.

 

[jaybird]

That's correct, during normal game situations, it's all about taking What the defense will give you and executing.

 

[big dog cowboy]

does this drive anyone else crazy?

Nope. If that is what the defense is giving us that is the smart play.

 

[dreghorn2]

We've run the ball 46.95 percent of the time on first-and-10.

That's a higher percentage than the Packers (45.24), Giants (43.50), Patriots (43.04) or Saints (38.35).

I'm not sure what that means, the Packers, Patriots, and Saints are prolific passing teams and have been for ages , to them the run is generally an afterthought -- the Giants, ok, i guess i see that.

Not taking sides in the discussion just not sure how this was relevant.

 

[egn22]

Regardless of stats, I was thinking of more situational instances. Stats can be skewed if u account for time killing plays or other situations. Seemed that there were plenty of pass plays that were unnecessary. But I don't like garretts style either so maybe its me being a little too analytical

 

[Hostile]

Regardless of stats, I was thinking of more situational instances. Stats can be skewed if u account for time killing plays or other situations. Seemed that there were plenty of pass plays that were unnecessary. But I don't like garretts style either so maybe its me being a little too analytical

Analysis paralysis.

 

[Gadfly22]

The problem isn't passing on first down, the answer isn't the statistical average of first down passes over any stretch of games and the explanation isn't that Romo is audibling out of a called run.

The problem yesterday (and in other games) is that the run is working. The cowboys have the lead or are in a competitive game. Then, suddenly, there are long passes called on first down. Not just passes -- low-completion percentage long passes. Three times in the second half after the Witten TD, that choice of play led to one three-and-out, another second-and-long and then the offensive PI on Robinson.

There's nothing wrong with the occasional long ball. It's necessary and Dallas is good at it. But after just taking the lead, when the run is working well, there's no reason to keep going back to low-percentage passes on first down over and over. That's an unwise play call if it came from the bench as a first choice play and an even worse choice as the alternative audible. It's how you lose control of games, and yes, it makes me crazy.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I have no problem with it if the pass-run ratio is close to 50-50 on first down. You can't just run it almost all of the time on 1st down. Too predictable and you'll tire out your tailback...which you only have 2 of them at the moment.

On a 3rd and 1, would you rather have Murray at tailback or Phillip Tanner?





YR

 

[basstapp]

I actually like the play action on first down. It becomes predictable when your winning to run 1st and 2nd and then throw on 3rd down. Romo was protecting the football and was in sync with Robinson and Witten most of the game.

 

[TheCount]

You don't understand football. I'm not Garrett supporter, but you should have heard Aikman say it himself. Romo does a great job of audibling and checking out of plays.

The Cowboys call two plays, one pass, one run. If it's a called run play, and Romo comes up to the line and the defense is stacking up against the run, it doesn't matter if it's first down, he is probably going to check out of that run play, and go to the pass.

If you don't want to wait til I forget the name of the poster puts up the video of the game, go watch the patriots game. See how Romo will make adjustments at the line.

"You don't understand football" is always a great way to start a discussion.

If you audible to pass every time you're on the goal line and the defense looks like they are playing run, guess what, you will ALWAYS pass.

Regardless of what the defense showed, that first play should have been a run right up the gut.

 

[Doomsday101]

does this drive anyone else crazy? Murray was doing a fantastic job and garrett kept going back to the pass.
I mean a win is a win, but his playcalling style will continue to be a problem against a better defense.

No we ran at time and passed at time. What is the deal would you run on 1st every time I'm sure the defense would like to know this?

 

[Stautner]

does this drive anyone else crazy? Murray was doing a fantastic job and garrett kept going back to the pass.
I mean a win is a win, but his playcalling style will continue to be a problem against a better defense.

The only time it bothered me was at the goalline.