Garrett's 3rd & 1 play call

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Has this been discussed yet, if so I missed it.
I know we all criticized his callas before. But this was huge, and concerns me more than ever before.
3rd and 1, from the 33. Then does a stupid pitch back to morris, loses 7 yards.
Punted and Eagles go 87 yards in 4 plays for a 14-0 lead.

When it could have been 7-3, or if they made the 1st down, possibly 7-7 as they were moving the ball decent.

I am beginning to think, is JG the right guy. I sure hope he is, and overall still believe he is. But seems there are way too many mistakes like these this year.
 
He has no feel for playcalling. He's just shooting in the dark.
 
It was discussed during the game, but the feeling was that the Eagles DE's had been crashing in the entire game so he was trying to catch them being to aggressive getting upfield. It didn't work out that particular play.. it happens.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say something went wrong on that play.
 
theogt;4334396 said:
He has no feel for playcalling. He's just shooting in the dark.

Not totally dark though.

I've heard the moon follows red heads so he has some light to work with.
 
That play was screwed up by either Morris or Dez.

I can guarantee you it wasn't run as called. I'm not sure what Dez was doing, but there's no way he was supposed to go in motion and set up back where he ended up.
 
Chuck 54;4334404 said:
That play was screwed up by either Morris or Dez.

I can guarantee you it wasn't run as called. I'm not sure what Dez was doing, but there's no way he was supposed to go in motion and set up back where he ended up.

No, i think he was supposed to be back there.. just didn't get set before the play. There were probably going to run a variation of the option with Dez back there because of his explosiveness.
 
I have not liked his play-calling since he took over as OC. Too risky. Too cutsey and he treats every run play as one less opportunity to call a pass. Full disclosure: I have screamed for Dallas to run the ball several times prior to a big pass play. Having said that, I believe the downside to his risky play calls outnumber the good. Examples:

1. Last year's assining play before half in the opener at Washington. Nuff said.

2. In OT in the Niner game when he ran an inside handoff to Austin, who loses two yards, fumbles (he got it back) and injures a hammy. Assinine.

3. Last week, passing the ball on 3rd-and-19 up 28-0 against TB deep in your own end. Romo fumbles and ball is returned for a TD.

4. Thanksgiving Day: Murray runs 13 times for four yards or less. JG calls a pass on the next play 12 times (the other play was followed immediately by two penalties, necessitating a give-up run call on third and long).

5. Against Seattle. Murry runs to the one yard line and a penalty moves the ball to the half yard line. 1st and goal from the half yard line and JG calls a pass.

Many of these above calls had me pulling my hair out. I really think if we'd just be a little more conservative and run the ball, our OL would be better for it, our defense would be better for it and our overall team would be better for it.
 
It was a dumb call at that spot on the field because you risk losing yardage, and we were on the fringe of field-goal range. If you run up the middle for no gain, then decide to kick the field goal (I would have gone for it), you're kicking a 48-yard field goal. If you lose 5 yards, you're kicking a 53-yarder, which is significantly more difficult. And if you lose 9 yards, you're punting.

If you're already out of field-goal range or well inside field-goal range, then you might make that call. But when you're barely within range, you should risk a 5- to 10-yard loss.
 
reminded me of some of those epic disasters when we pitched out to MB. You do NOT do a pitch out to a power back or one without much wiggle. You do it with a scat back.
 
AdamJT13;4334413 said:
It was a dumb call at that spot on the field because you risk losing yardage, and we were on the fringe of field-goal range. If you run up the middle for no gain, then decide to kick the field goal (I would have gone for it), you're kicking a 48-yard field goal. If you lose 5 yards, you're kicking a 53-yarder, which is significantly more difficult. And if you lose 9 yards, you're punting.

If you're already out of field-goal range or well inside field-goal range, then you might make that call. But when you're barely within range, you should risk a 5- to 10-yard loss.

Yea, I just dont understand it. Garrett was under Saban and Jimmy, it is like he learned nothing under them!
 
AdamJT13;4334413 said:
It was a dumb call at that spot on the field because you risk losing yardage, and we were on the fringe of field-goal range. If you run up the middle for no gain, then decide to kick the field goal (I would have gone for it), you're kicking a 48-yard field goal. If you lose 5 yards, you're kicking a 53-yarder, which is significantly more difficult. And if you lose 9 yards, you're punting.

If you're already out of field-goal range or well inside field-goal range, then you might make that call. But when you're barely within range, you should risk a 5- to 10-yard loss.



+1 ! Totally stupid play call in that field position, with so little to go to pick up a first, and with that little time left on the clock.

If we run the ball straight ahead we most probably pick up the 1st and maybe even end up scoring a game tying touchdown. Instead we call that GOOFY play, punt the ball back to Philly leaving just enuff time on the clock for them to score another td before the half. Could have been 7-7 at that point.........instead we go down 14-0 at the half.

Disgustingly bad GAME CHANGING play call. Garrett tends to over think things far too much when calling the game, gets wayyyyyyyyyyyy too cute much of the time and ends of outsmarting HIMSELF. Football is a SIMPLE game, if you allow it to be.
 
AdamJT13;4334413 said:
It was a dumb call at that spot on the field because you risk losing yardage, and we were on the fringe of field-goal range. If you run up the middle for no gain, then decide to kick the field goal (I would have gone for it), you're kicking a 48-yard field goal. If you lose 5 yards, you're kicking a 53-yarder, which is significantly more difficult. And if you lose 9 yards, you're punting.

If you're already out of field-goal range or well inside field-goal range, then you might make that call. But when you're barely within range, you should risk a 5- to 10-yard loss.

Tell us how you really feel about Garrett......:)
 
You just needed 1 yard. Why not call a play that you practice on a regular basis? How many times do you think they practice that trick play?
 
jazzcat22;4334382 said:
I am beginning to think, is JG the right guy. I sure hope he is, and overall still believe he is. But seems there are way too many mistakes like these this year.

I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would believe this. Hope? Sure. Believe? No way. He has done absolutely nothing to earn that belief, and in fact has done far more to dissuade from it.
 
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Looked like Dez had no idea where he was supposed to be. Mcgee or someone should of called a timeout before the ball was snapped. I know Tony would of either told Dez where to go or called a timeout.
 
It was a bad call.

The play was poorly executed.

It is symptomatic of an OL that regularly fails to get a yard when we need one without a Herculean effort by the RBs.

Bad call but we need to get better upfront.
 
Hummm.
I was a little taken back by the screen passes, I'm sure they were in the game plan with the eagles DEs and all, but come on. Likely the most choreographed play in the NFL and we're trying it with an inexperienced QB and a RB who's been in the system for 3 weeks?

Wanted OC. Soon.
 

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