Garrett's Explanation Makes Perfect Sense

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Listen to the press conference. Agree with him or disagree with him he gives a well reasoned, and reasonable explanation for why they did what they did.

The folks all up in arms and wanting to string him up need to back away from the ledge and listen.
 
The Hitler of Our Time from Iran gets to give well-reasoned treatises at Columbia University on why the Jews need to be exterminated and he needs to rule the world. So what?

It's not about how well-reasoned an idea is; it's about the idea itself. It's about the result. Jason Garrett made a bad decision.

Is this going to happen every time with Garrett? Not likely, but it will happen again.

I say let's get over it after tomorrow. We've got the New York Football Giants coming into Cowboys Stadium this Sunday night and we need all hands on deck.
 
The Emperor;4291818 said:
The Hitler of Our Time from Iran gets to give well-reasoned treatises at Columbia University on why the Jews need to be exterminated and he needs to rule the world. So what?

It's not about how well-reasoned an idea is; it's about the idea itself. It's about the result. Jason Garrett made a bad decision.

Is this going to happen every time with Garrett? Not likely, but it will happen again.

I say let's get over it after tomorrow. We've got the New York Football Giants coming into Cowboys Stadium this Sunday night and we need all hands on deck.

Well considering what has happened with similar situations this season, he is ahead on the percentages of it working out, not behind. We have succeeded at this more than we have failed. That has to do with the idea itself.

That now makes 4 of 5.
 
The Emperor;4291818 said:
The Hitler of Our Time from Iran gets to give well-reasoned treatises at Columbia University on why the Jews need to be exterminated and he needs to rule the world. So what?

It's not about how well-reasoned an idea is; it's about the idea itself. It's about the result. Jason Garrett made a bad decision.

Is this going to happen every time with Garrett? Not likely, but it will happen again.

I say let's get over it after tomorrow. We've got the New York Football Giants coming into Cowboys Stadium this Sunday night and we need all hands on deck.

And by the way, any argument for exterminating the Jews is not well reasoned or reasonable.
 
Whats scary is he doesnt regret anything.

So, if this situation comes up again, he will do the same thing??

Gosh, I hope not.

Whats he so scared of? Romo? O-line?
 
rcaldw;4291824 said:
Well considering what has happened with similar situations this season, he is ahead on the percentages of it working out, not behind. We have succeeded at this more than we have failed. That has to do with the idea itself.

That now makes 4 of 5.

What four times did such decision-making succeed? Please list them.
 
You need to be more specific on which part you're talking about... Exactly what did he say that was so well reasoned?

I know you aren't talking about the part where the media asked, "Do you want to call that time out, or can Tony call it?"

JG: "Tony can call it."

Broaddus: "Did you instruct him to clock that ball?"

~ long, awkward pause ~

JG: "I don't have an answer for that."

What the heck does that mean? You don't have an answer for that? Why not?
 
Gemini Dolly;4291837 said:
Whats scary is he doesnt regret anything.

So, if this situation comes up again, he will do the same thing??

Gosh, I hope not.

Whats he so scared of? Romo? O-line?

Yes, he's scared of Romo. He's also scared of Nixon and the John Birch Society.

Ah, you're just doing what I told you to do. Keep blaming Romo. It's actually an omen when you start to support him.
 
It was a bad decision. Lets just chalk it up as a learning experience and move on.
 
Chocolate Lab;4291841 said:
You need to be more specific on which part you're talking about... Exactly what did he say that was so well reasoned?

I know you aren't talking about the part where the media asked, "Do you want to call that time out, or can Tony call it?"

JG: "Tony can call it."

Broaddus: "Did you instruct him to clock that ball?"

~ long, awkward pause ~

JG: "I don't have an answer for that."

What the heck does that mean? You don't have an answer for that? Why not?

If you listen about 5 more minutes Lab, he gets more specific and answers that.

And by the way, sometimes it is both well reasoned and reasonable not to get into the blame game, while answering questions honestly at the same time.

He actually didn't want Tony to clock it. He was going to let it go down to 4 seconds and then call a timeout from the sideline.
 
rcaldw;4291847 said:

It's not the same situation.

Against San Franfreako, it was third down. So, we had two tries (assuming we botched the hold) to get it right.

Against Washington both times, it was a 40-yard field goal -- the first on 4th down for the game and the second on third down again like with San Fransicko.

Against the Dolphins, it was the last play of the game and much, much closer.

Against the Cardinals, we had time to take one more shot to make it a closer kick. We could have done exactly what we did against the Dolphins last week. Instead, we played for a field goal instead of for the win.

It was a bad decision. But I'm with Heisenburg. Let's learn from it like The Brady Bunch and move on.
 
Chocolate Lab;4291841 said:
You need to be more specific on which part you're talking about... Exactly what did he say that was so well reasoned?

I know you aren't talking about the part where the media asked, "Do you want to call that time out, or can Tony call it?"

JG: "Tony can call it."

Broaddus: "Did you instruct him to clock that ball?"

~ long, awkward pause ~

JG: "I don't have an answer for that."

What the heck does that mean? You don't have an answer for that? Why not?

It's possible that he's suggesting that failing to call the time out and clocking the ball instead was on Tony, but being coy about it in order to avoid the appearance of throwing his guy under a bus. I hope that's not what he's doing.
 
rcaldw;4291855 said:
If you listen about 5 more minutes Lab, he gets more specific and answers that.

And by the way, sometimes it is both well reasoned and reasonable not to get into the blame game, while answering questions honestly at the same time.

He actually didn't want Tony to clock it. He was going to let it go down to 4 seconds and then call a timeout from the sideline.

I quit listening after Mickey Spagnola broke in and said we were going live to the press conference, and then it repeated itself and went back to the beginning of the press conference. I lost patience after that.
 
Outlaw Heroes;4291869 said:
It's possible that he's suggesting that failing to call the time out and clocking the ball instead was on Tony, but being coy about it in order to avoid the appearance of throwing his guy under a bus. I hope that's not what he's doing.

But that doesn't even make sense... It's not like he as a coach can't call the time out if his QB isn't.

He apparently wanted the clock to tick all the way down and not even attempt to get the ball any closer than 49 yards even after a miss and a near miss earlier in the day.
 
The Emperor;4291865 said:
It's not the same situation.

Against San Franfreako, it was third down. So, we had two tries (assuming we botched the hold) to get it right.

Against Washington both times, it was a 40-yard field goal -- the first on 4th down for the game and the second on third down again like with San Fransicko.

Against the Dolphins, it was the last play of the game and much, much closer.

Against the Cardinals, we had time to take one more shot to make it a closer kick. We could have done exactly what we did against the Dolphins last week. Instead, we played for a field goal instead of for the win.

It was a bad decision. But I'm with Heisenburg. Let's learn from it like The Brady Bunch and move on.

I don't think Garrett's argument was that down, distance, whether there were 1 or 2 or 10 plays left, all matched identically. His argument was this.

*We are comfortably within my kicker's range
*My kicker is darn near perfect
*We will let him do his thing

4 times it worked, yesterday it didn't. 4 of 5.
 
Outlaw Heroes;4291869 said:
It's possible that he's suggesting that failing to call the time out and clocking the ball instead was on Tony, but being coy about it in order to avoid the appearance of throwing his guy under a bus. I hope that's not what he's doing.

Just the opposite if you listen. He DIDN'T WANT timeout at 21, or 15, or 10 seconds... he didn't want a timeout until 4. Tony clocked it at 7.

He was simply answering the question that was asked, truthfully. Does Tony have the ability to call a timeout on his own? Yes. Did you ask him to clock it there? The answer he could have given was no, but that would not have been entirely accurate because they have talked about situations where Tony would clock it. Did he actually want it clocked there? No.

Even Jason Witten said today that Garrett is one of the best in the game at managing game situations, in terms of THINKING ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE.

Garrett was happy with the 30 yard line. Agree or disagree (and I disagree), that is what drove this decision. He didn't really see a need to get it closer, weighed against the possibility of something negative happening.
 
The Emperor;4291872 said:
I quit listening after Mickey Spagnola broke in and said we were going live to the press conference, and then it repeated itself and went back to the beginning of the press conference. I lost patience after that.
I just listened to it about 30 minutes ago, and it did not go back to the beginning. It picked up in progress and went from there.

Not to argue with you on why JG did things differently in yesterday's situation as opposed to times past, but each game and each opponent is different, so you might handle the exact situation differently in different games. JMO.
 
Dallas Cowboys Fan;4291891 said:
It didn't make sense at all. The play clock was only at like 10.

He said it was at 6 and the kicker was still backing up. Said he didn't want it rushed, that in his experience as a player and a coach rarely does something go well when you are rushing.

Again, it didn't work out, but at least the guy has a reason for what he did.
 

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