Garrett's Predictability

InmanRoshi;4061279 said:
I dunno ... it seemed like the Chargers knew what the Cowboys were doing, sometimes. Like, they had practiced against the Cowboys all week or something.

:laugh2: You're killing me.
 
jobberone;4061753 said:
I think the overall execution of the play was correct. I think Romo didn't see the safety and either look elsewhere or take off and run or throw the ball away. The INT is on Romo not Garrett. Almost certain Tree was in the right place.

I'm not blaming anyone but Romo for the int.

I am not BLAMING anyone for the playcall, I am saying it was played so well because they knew what was coming since Garrett has tipped his hand for years on that particular formation and a few others.
 
TheCount;4061745 said:
I'm not "busting" on anything, the percentages are from last season and they cropping up AGAIN in this preseason.

The concern is legitimate, whether some of you refuse to look at it objectively or not.

But hey, if some of you guys are willing to fall back on "Hey, our offense was ranked X" after another meaningless season that ends in embarrassment, be my guest. Burn your statistics to keep warm through another long winter.

It's the 2nd game of preseason, and it came against a team we practiced against all week. This is comical to even have this debate right now.

And I'm not falling back on anything we did in the past. I'm saying there was nothing wrong with the playcall, the execution was bad, and to settle down, it's the 2nd week of the preseason. Our offense will be just fine. If anything, worry about the defense.

Unless you want to go back to last season when everyone was hating on Garrett until they figured out what type of coach he is.
 
jobberone;4061753 said:
I think the overall execution of the play was correct. I think Romo didn't see the safety and either look elsewhere or take off and run or throw the ball away. The INT is on Romo not Garrett. Almost certain Tree was in the right place.

all romo, he admitted it. that is what frustrates us romo fans and feeds the haters. sometimes he plays with his head up his________:bang2:
 
NextGenBoys;4061809 said:
It's the 2nd game of preseason, and it came against a team we practiced against all week. This is comical to even have this debate right now.

And I'm not falling back on anything we did in the past. I'm saying there was nothing wrong with the playcall, the execution was bad, and to settle down, it's the 2nd week of the preseason. Our offense will be just fine. If anything, worry about the defense.

Unless you want to go back to last season when everyone was hating on Garrett until they figured out what type of coach he is.

The execution wasn't bad, Romo just made a bad decision that turned it into an int. If he throws the ball away, the play is still well executed. Sometimes the defense wins.

My point is that the defense had an edge to win that particular play because they knew what was coming, not based off two preseason games but based on years of Garrett's tendencies out of that particular formation.
 
It looked to me like Romo had Dez open deep.

Boneheaded throw for sure. Let's hope he got it out of his system.
 
TheCount;4061825 said:
The execution wasn't bad, Romo just made a bad decision that turned it into an int. If he throws the ball away, the play is still well executed. Sometimes the defense wins.

My point is that the defense had an edge to win that particular play because they knew what was coming, not based off two preseason games but based on years of Garrett's tendencies out of that particular formation.

I consider a bad decision as bad execution, but whatever, we're on the same page, just different semantics. And yes, a throw away is a good play at times too, like you said sometimes the defense wins.

But just because they knew it was coming doesn't make it a bad play. You can call predictable play calls to set up plays later in the game. You can't set anything up unless you are predictable running it originally. Not saying this was the case, just a mere opinion on play calling in general.

Who knows next time we run play action out of the 21, instead of a cross, it's a double route post-corner, and we catch the safety cheating in. In that case, a well placed throw is a big gain, and or TD.
 
Running over the left side when you have two TE outside Free is jsut what you do. 80% of the time running over that side sounds about right. The key is execution so that for the other 20% the playaction has them biting and biting hard.

Vela had a great piece talking about the running game we seem to be putting together. Our blockers are playing very physical football and our runners are running hard as opposed to last year. I am not worried at all about our offense.

Weddle is one of the best safeties in the league and that is no hyperbole. He diagnosed the play, faked in and then cut off underneath the route. Heck of a play.

Should Romo have recognized it? Yes.

Are there very many safeties that have the total package of quickness, speed and itelligence to make that play? No.

We are fine.
 
Primetime42;4061827 said:
It looked to me like Romo had Dez open deep.

Boneheaded throw for sure. Let's hope he got it out of his system.

He also had Bennett open underneath. Just a flat our poor, poor decision by Romo
 
FuzzyLumpkins;4061844 said:
Running over the left side when you have two TE outside Free is jsut what you do. 80% of the time running over that side sounds about right. The key is execution so that for the other 20% the playaction has them biting and biting hard.

Vela had a great piece talking about the running game we seem to be putting together. Our blockers are playing very physical football and our runners are running hard as opposed to last year. I am not worried at all about our offense.

Weddle is one of the best safeties in the league and that is no hyperbole. He diagnosed the play, faked in and then cut off underneath the route. Heck of a play.

Should Romo have recognized it? Yes.

Are there very many safeties that have the total package of quickness, speed and itelligence to make that play? No.

We are fine.

Exactly. You set things up with predictability so later on you can catch them off guard.
 
NextGenBoys;4061850 said:
Exactly. You set things up with predictability so later on you can catch them off guard.
It was a very good play by Weddle baiting Tony into throwing that pass some tends to forget that there are good players on defense too and Weddle seems to fit that.

As far as the pick goes Romo should've not made that throw and that is what frustrates me sometimes with him whoever came up with the Farve comparison regarding Romo was spot on he does seem to freelance with the ball at times other than that he's a good QB.
 
It really doesn't matter if guys practiced against it, we practiced against them too but that didn't matter.

We could've definitely overcome that interception it was early in the game, but the defense letting the team just casually move down the field and the blitzes not getting there has got to change.

I won't panic now but I was panicking this same time last year, and obviously for good reason.
 
Clove;4061884 said:
It really doesn't matter if guys practiced against it, we practiced against them too but that didn't matter.

We could've definitely overcome that interception it was early in the game, but the defense letting the team just casually move down the field and the blitzes not getting there has got to change.

I won't panic now but I was panicking this same time last year, and obviously for good reason.

They got 3 points off the first two drives then the backups came in. its all relative. The starting D played pretty well especially considering our corners. Scandrick does not play zero man well at all.
 
NextGenBoys;4061843 said:
I consider a bad decision as bad execution, but whatever, we're on the same page, just different semantics. And yes, a throw away is a good play at times too, like you said sometimes the defense wins.

But just because they knew it was coming doesn't make it a bad play. You can call predictable play calls to set up plays later in the game. You can't set anything up unless you are predictable running it originally. Not saying this was the case, just a mere opinion on play calling in general.

Who knows next time we run play action out of the 21, instead of a cross, it's a double route post-corner, and we catch the safety cheating in. In that case, a well placed throw is a big gain, and or TD.

Good point as far as setting something up later down the line. It would be nice to think that we don't have to eat a loss to set up a gain, but I guess it happens.
 
Makes sense to run your strengths but I never liked our play fakes. Romo is too dramatic and it's a tell IMO.

I think we will see different playcalling this season b/c the personnel is different. As popular as the 12 formation was it could be even moreso w/ the return of Phillips and the departure of RW.

I would expect more 2 RB sets bc both felix and Murray are versatile and can create mismatches.
 
InmanRoshi;4061279 said:
I dunno ... it seemed like the Chargers knew what the Cowboys were doing, sometimes. Like, they had practiced against the Cowboys all week or something.

Thank you, saved me some typing.
 

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