Garrett's Process: Growing List of Players Murdered/Arrested

[CATCH17]

Eh.

I'm not really in the "garrett basher" camp. It's just getting ridiculous to me that we continue to fail on the football field, yet make headlines for these types of incidents.

It's inexcusable for this to happen after the Brent incident. Shouldn't have happened anywhere in the league after Stallworth, but definitely should not occur on the same team twice in a couple months.

Especially when said team is not even good. I just don't see a culture change in the right direction.

These are decisions that people are making in the moment away from football.

I want Garrett to teach Jay Ratliff how to be a good football player and put Jay in the best position to succeed on the field.

Away from football I expect a grown man to be able to police himself.

Jay Ratliff should be held accountable for this and not anyone else.

 

[JBS]

im not sure if its the entire defense, or just the defensive line...but clearly there is a faction of this team that is trying to sabotage this organization...

GROJones maybe?

 

[Blitzen32]

These are decisions that people are making in the moment away from football.

I want Garrett to teach Jay Ratliff how to be a good football player and put Jay in the best position to succeed on the field.

Away from football I expect a grown man to be able to police himself.

Jay Ratliff should be held accountable for this and not anyone else.

Not that simple.

Not sure if you've ever played organized sports at higher levels, but you really become more than responsible to just yourself. You have responsibilities to represent your school/organization, and usually will have to answer to teammates too. It gets ingrained in your mind with the right culture.

I don't know if that's the case anymore here. The shame is that it's the exact same incident that just crippled the team and led to such a tragedy.

 

[JBS]

Not that simple.

Not sure if you've ever played organized sports at higher levels, but you really become more than responsible to just yourself. You have responsibilities to represent your school/organization, and usually will have to answer to teammates too. It gets ingrained in your mind with the right culture.

I don't know if that's the case anymore here. The shame is that it's the exact same incident that just crippled the team and led to such a tragedy.

where did you play college football? utah?

 

[Diogenes]

Jay Ratliff is a grown-*** man. It wasn't his mom's fault either. Good lord.

 

[Blitzen32]

where did you play college football? utah?

They were our Holy War rival (and I hate them), but started out in Cali at a JUCO. Did you play?

 

[dupree89]

They were our Holy War rival (and I hate them), but started out in Cali at a JUCO. Did you play?

can you play right tackle? you will be an instant upgrade my friend

 

[Blitzen32]

Jay Ratliff is a grown-*** man. It wasn't his mom's fault either. Good lord.

Like I said, it goes beyond just that when you become a member of the Dallas Cowboys. Also, it's unacceptable to have the incident twice like this under the same leadership. The culture here is going south fast.

 

[WittenFan]

:laugh2:

Like I said, just a discussion question, boss.

I just don't recall as much of this stuff happening under Parcells, and it's starting to creep back in again somewhat regularly now.

It's all love from my end.

Didn't Terry Glenn get arrested for urinating on a dumpster or some such nonsense? Not sure that was during Parcell's era...just throwing it out there.

 

[DeaconBlues]

How many arrests/murders (intentional or not) are we up to since Garrett came here from Miami?

Seems like the list of players being killed and arrested is ever-growing under a coach who was supposed to bring discipline and accountability to the franchise.

Conversely, how many arrests occurred during the Parcells tenure here? I believe it was zero.

Quincy failed a drug test after leading the team to the playoffs, and was immediately cut. Brent killed a guy, and was invited to hang out on the sidelines.

Seems like there's a stark contract between what's being told to us from the podium vs. what's actually occurring in real life.

Did Garrett really get through to these guys after the Brent incident? 100% doubt it now.

DUI is pretty serious. Come on now, guy.

Bill Parcells (hired Jan 3, 2003) 2003 -2007 4 arrests, one death

Jason Garrett (hired Jan 7, 2007) 2007 - present 7 arrests, one death

Parcells: 1 arrest per year, .25 deaths per year.

Garrett: 1.167 arrests per year, .167 deaths per year.

Arrests are up .167 per year under JG.
Deaths are down .083.

Question: are you going to apologize to CZ for the stupidity of your argument, or do you have another source to show otherwise? A source other than your butt??

Stats courtesy of NFL Arrests Database, UT San Diego.
http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

Took all of 8 minutes to debunk this steaming pile.

 

[Blitzen32]

Jason Garrett (hired Jan 7, 2007) 2007 - present 7 arrests, one death


Arrests are up

Exactly.

Thanks, boss.

 

[Gaede]

hahaha oh god, what an excellent post that was.

Out of curiosity though, what's Garrett's rate solely as head coach?

 

[DeaconBlues]

Exactly.

Thanks, boss.

1.

1 over seven years.

Average deaths are down.

Kinda blows your thread title out of the water.

 

[DenCWBY]

Bill Parcells (hired Jan 3, 2003) 2003 -2007 4 arrests, one death

Jason Garrett (hired Jan 7, 2007) 2007 - present 7 arrests, one death

Parcells: 1 arrest per year, .25 deaths per year.

Garrett: 1.167 arrests per year, .167 deaths per year.

Arrests are up .167 per year under JG.
Deaths are down .083.

Question: are you going to apologize to CZ for the stupidity of your argument, or do you have another source to show otherwise? A source other than your butt??

Stats courtesy of NFL Arrests Database, UT San Diego.
http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

Took all of 8 minutes to debunk this steaming pile.

Was Garrett a HC in 2007?

 

[jobberone]

This thread is hanging by a.....thread. Ok gentle people.

 

[DeaconBlues]

hahaha oh god, what an excellent post that was.

Out of curiosity though, what's Garrett's rate solely as head coach?

5 arrests, 1 death.

 

[Blitzen32]

1.

Kinda blows your thread title out of the water.

Not really.

The list was 6 yesterday. It's 7 today. (or 4-->5 as HC)

That's called "growing" if you went to math class. Fits in perfectly with the thread title.

 

[rcaldw]

Not really.

The list was 6 yesterday. It's 7 today. (or 4-->5 as HC)

That's called "growing" if you went to math class. Fits in perfectly with the thread title.

Cmon man, at some point you gain respect when you can just admit it was stupid. Ok? When you keep on with it, even after it has been debunked, then it is no longer valid EVEN AS AN OPINION.

Just declare defeat on this one and come back to fight against Garrett on another front.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Not really.

The list was 6 yesterday. It's 7 today. (or 4-->5 as HC)

That's called "growing" if you went to math class. Fits in perfectly with the thread title.

Do you read your own posts. Well, apparently not.

"Seems like the list of players being killed and arrested is ever-growing under a coach who was supposed to bring discipline and accountability to the franchise.

Conversely, how many arrests occurred during the Parcells tenure here? I believe it was zero."

Both statements are false.

 

[zrinkill]

Do you read your own posts. Well, apparently not.

"Seems like the list of players being killed and arrested is ever-growing under a coach who was supposed to bring discipline and accountability to the franchise.

Conversely, how many arrests occurred during the Parcells tenure here? I believe it was zero."

Both statements are false.

:laugh2: