General thoughts

[Mr Cowboy]

I think the only change at RB will be sitting one of the current top 3 and activating Smith once he gets up to par with the playbook. He is supposedly a good special teamer, and is big enough for short yardage carries.

 

[xwalker]

I haven't watched a game live since the DVR came out. I usually wait an hour or two, and then usually catch up to the game. It's very hard to watch all the flags, commercials, replays, reviews, etc. Ugh.

I do however pay attention to the game day thread...priceless.

I start watching in real time and then at the 1st commercial, I go back and review the previous plays in detail and then fast forward though the commercials to the next game action.

I try not to fast forward between plays unless Phil Simms is the announcer which forces me to fast forward to minimize hearing his nonsense.

Years ago I would wait and hour or two to start watching but one time I forgot to set the game to record and another time somebody came over to the house and blurted out the score.

 

[khiladi]

RBBC = 418 yards. Good for 2nd. Don't forget the bye week also played a part in this. Odds are, they would be in first.

This isn't tracking the RBs for the other teams and what they are producing... Did you just add DMC and Randle and compare against the listed numbers in the original thread?

 

[Deep_South]

Chip got DeMarco his hundred by leaving him on the field with a 20 point lead and 2 minutes left to kill in the game.

 

[ShiningStar]

With the Giants likely to lose at this rate, we're certainly still very much in this thing, especially if we can pull out a win against them next week.

The Giants loss yesterday, I hope would compel Jerry Jones to make sure this team can make it through the absence of Romo. The Chicago Bears are now 2-4, I'm still hoping we can take some things off their hands. Namely Matt Forte or I'd like us to get some wide receiver help, but I don't see that really happening.

Players that need to go next year:
No surprise the players that I said needed to go this year: Carr and Free.

I'm trapped. Part of me wants to focus entirely on upgrading the secondary, the other part of me wants us to do whatever we can to draft Ezekiel Elliot. Really wish we had signed Cromartie and Tillman.

Running back notes:
Matt Forte - 507 yards (1st in the nfl)
Todd Gurley - 314 yards (16th in the nfl)
Melvin Gordon - 299 yards (18th in the nfl)
Joseph Randle - 289 yards (22nd in the nfl)
DeMarco Murray - 239 yards (31st in the nfl)
Darren McFadden - 129 yards (57th in the nfl)

its like you never watched a Giants Cowboys game ever. How is it likely the giants are goign to lose against us at any rate. I have seen bad Giant teams beat good dallas teams and vice versa. There mere fact you are so confident the Cowboys are going to win questions if you even have the basic understanding of whats going on.



Carr and Free car and free car and free, SAY SOMETHING ORGINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Wow, you picked teh two unpopular kids. Wow. Than you put on the 20 20 glasses. Amazing how that works.

 

[Fmart322]

Not to mention the eagles aren't using him to the best of his ability.
Are you surprised though? Murray is a much better RB. Too bad he's gone.

Lol... Demarco gave Randle a running start and he's still going to end up lapping Randle's sorry butt.

 

[Chuck 54]

With the Giants likely to lose at this rate, we're certainly still very much in this thing, especially if we can pull out a win against them next week.

The Giants loss yesterday, I hope would compel Jerry Jones to make sure this team can make it through the absence of Romo. The Chicago Bears are now 2-4, I'm still hoping we can take some things off their hands. Namely Matt Forte or I'd like us to get some wide receiver help, but I don't see that really happening.

Players that need to go next year:
No surprise the players that I said needed to go this year: Carr and Free.

I'm trapped. Part of me wants to focus entirely on upgrading the secondary, the other part of me wants us to do whatever we can to draft Ezekiel Elliot. Really wish we had signed Cromartie and Tillman.

Running back notes:
Matt Forte - 507 yards (1st in the nfl)
Todd Gurley - 314 yards (16th in the nfl)
Melvin Gordon - 299 yards (18th in the nfl)
Joseph Randle - 289 yards (22nd in the nfl)
DeMarco Murray - 239 yards (31st in the nfl)
Darren McFadden - 129 yards (57th in the nfl)

Right now, we need a WR 100 times more than we need a RB. A backup QB can win if he takes care of the ball and has someone to throw it to. We need Dez back asap if we are going to win any games.

 

[DandyDon1722]

I think that is a huge part of it, but, also, QB play is just downright bad.

The 3 best QBs in the league (Rodgers, Brady, Romo) are all undefeated. Roethlisberger only lost to the Pats.

Good observation and unfortunately we all better get used to it. When you have high draft picks coming out of college who have never taken a snap from under center or who have never called a play in a huddle there just will never be the numbers coming out of the draft of guys who can excel at an NFL quarterback level. You just have to hope you're one of the 12-15 teams in the league that has that guy because if you have everything else but that it just doesn't matter--

See Buffalo Bills.

 

[Idgit]

So much angst over a running game during a season that ought to have underlined the importance of the passing game to anybody watching. One, our running game has not been that bad. Two, our RB plan for the season included a healthy dose of Dunbar which was actually working great for us both in terms of productivity and time of possession while we had him. Three, by any reasonable standard, Demarco Murray has been a huge disappointment through the first third of a season in PHI. Didn't he just break 100 yards rushing for the season the week before last? He's gone. To a division rival. On purpose. Bye.

We're not trading for Forte. The Bears wouldn't trade him anyway. We're going to get our QB and allpro WR back, and then we're going to be doing some significant damage in the NFC like we always expected. Hopefully, bearing in mind that we'd have struggled mightily last season with Romo out for 8 games and Dez 6, too. Demarcus Murphy or no.

 

[ShiningStar]

So much angst over a running game during a season that ought to have underlined the importance of the passing game to anybody watching. One, our running game has not been that bad. Two, our RB plan for the season included a healthy dose of Dunbar which was actually working great for us both in terms of productivity and time of possession while we had him. Three, by any reasonable standard, Demarco Murray has been a huge disappointment through the first third of a season in PHI. Didn't he just break 100 yards rushing for the season the week before last? He's gone. To a division rival. On purpose. Bye.

We're not trading for Forte. The Bears wouldn't trade him anyway. We're going to get our QB and allpro WR back, and then we're going to be doing some significant damage in the NFC like we always expected. Hopefully, bearing in mind that we'd have struggled mightily last season with Romo out for 8 games and Dez 6, too. Demarcus Murphy or no.

so basically you agree with the coaches, risk playing a RB note worthy of injuries. That being one bad mistake and 2 sign a guy also with a long list of injuries. Good to know.

Chris Johnson and Spiller were avialable thats all im saying on that.

im ok we let Murray walk, im disappointed in what we did after. I am upset we let Callahan go, and how Dallas handled that. im ok with Pollack so far. So far, gotta give him time. Im ok with the defense. Yea we all bet Romo would stay healthy, i mean come on, Weeden was the best chocie knowing ROmo never had an injury so he was good to go. Weeden would never see the field like Orton or ever been needed like Orton never was. Than risk the season with 1 rb who is the best when the opposing team is in prevent, (kep in mind the legend and excuses for a RB whos best feat is going forward) and people are dazzled he gets yards when no one is near him, (no other RB does that) and than we we keep a vet on the offensive line with a knee ready to go and keep his understudy off as much as we can. Than for ice the season, we dont use a TE correctly, we keep starting one who brings new emaning to old and busted (yes hes HoF no he wont get in the HoF becase of his starts). Than we bank on our WRs to bail us out knowing full well Dez too will never go down.

All the mistakes i blame on the coaches and heads of this organization.


Over all i did give Garrett a great off season but the two moves i questioned, Mc Fadden who i accepted afterwards and Weeden. I do not claim to say "ooo i knew all this was going to happen" but i will say we did gamble a lot and deserve what we go.

 

[Idgit]

so basically you agree with the coaches, risk playing a RB note worthy of injuries. That being one bad mistake and 2 sign a guy also with a long list of injuries. Good to know.

Chris Johnson and Spiller were avialable thats all im saying on that.

im ok we let Murray walk, im disappointed in what we did after. I am upset we let Callahan go, and how Dallas handled that. im ok with Pollack so far. So far, gotta give him time. Im ok with the defense. Yea we all bet Romo would stay healthy, i mean come on, Weeden was the best chocie knowing ROmo never had an injury so he was good to go. Weeden would never see the field like Orton or ever been needed like Orton never was. Than risk the season with 1 rb who is the best when the opposing team is in prevent, (kep in mind the legend and excuses for a RB whos best feat is going forward) and people are dazzled he gets yards when no one is near him, (no other RB does that) and than we we keep a vet on the offensive line with a knee ready to go and keep his understudy off as much as we can. Than for ice the season, we dont use a TE correctly, we keep starting one who brings new emaning to old and busted (yes hes HoF no he wont get in the HoF becase of his starts). Than we bank on our WRs to bail us out knowing full well Dez too will never go down.

All the mistakes i blame on the coaches and heads of this organization.

Over all i did give Garrett a great off season but the two moves i questioned, Mc Fadden who i accepted afterwards and Weeden. I do not claim to say "ooo i knew all this was going to happen" but i will say we did gamble a lot and deserve what we go.

'A RB note-worthy of injuries...' is that Dunbar? If so, then, yes. He's a good player, and I don't typically buy into the idea of young guys being more injury prone than others. I certainly don't think his ACLs are weaker than the next guys. He plays a position where players get hurt. It happens.

I was never in favor of signing McFadden, if that's the other guy you were mentioning. I don't think he can play that well, and I don't think he's suited for a zone scheme.

We had to let Murray walk. And there wasn't an option for keeping Callahan, though I don't like that we lost him, either. I'm on record saying not upgrading QB2 was a bigger mistake than anything we did at RB this season. That said, Weeden's responsibility for the losing streak is getting way, way overplayed here. He's bad, and he got no support until the defense came to play v. NE. And we weren't going to beat NE, anyway. I also didn't see a ton of options out there who were obvious upgrades for us, honestly. Cassel was actually the guy I had my eye on. We were reportedly interested in Shaun Hill, but he preferred to return to the Vikes. There wasn't anybody in this draft that we were in range of who I thought had a chance to be anything other than a failed experiment.

Witten's still playing TE at the highest level.

And I don't see the coaching mistakes that everybody else is talking about. There have been a few gaffes, but there always are. I'd say, overall, our team wasn't enough prepared for the start of the season. Specifically along the OL where we've looked off (though they do seem to be coming together somewhat, finally. If Leary weren't giving ground last weekend, we'd have looked pretty good, overall). I know people are mad about the vanilla offense, but I"m all in favor of that when our QB can't process information quickly enough. I think we'll see that change fairly dramatically under Cassel. The new problem is going to be ball security and that fact that our WRs still have troubles uncovering.

 

[Bleu Star]

I love how Demarco has one good game and you're out here thumping your chest.

Sorry. I love how he fit into our offense. Sue me.

 

[gmoney112]

A RB isn't going to come in, and by some miracle, save the Dallas Cowboys. Especially not Forte.

*When*, not if, we start winning, it'll be because 1) Our backup QB has actually started anticipating routes. 2) Our WR's have started getting separation by talent or design, 3) CMike has become more decisive in hitting the holes

and almost as importantly

4) Our defense with Hardy/McClain and now Gregory back in the mix racking up the sacks and pressures leading to
5) Our DB's actually holding onto the balls that hit them in the hands.

I just don't really see how some people refuse to admit that this team, and most teams in general, are actually quite a bit worse when their best players are out. We don't need to trade for a RB, it'd be nice to have a better one, hopefully CMike can provide that spark, but really we just needed guys to get healthy and our defensive backfield to produce turnovers that they've just missed. Dez coming back, alone, will provide a big boost to the running game and the entire offense in general.

It's really not that complicated.

 

[Bleu Star]

Again..

Sunday Dallas beats the NYG and goes into the Seattle game with steam. Cmike, Collins, Cassell, and that defense provide a major spark.

Get ready for it folks. It's really not that complicated.

 

[gmoney112]

Again..

Sunday Dallas beats the NYG and goes into the Seattle game with steam. Cmike, Collins, Cassell, and that defense provide a major spark.

Get ready for it folks. It's really not that complicated.

Agreed.

 

[Zordon]

With the Giants likely to lose at this rate, we're certainly still very much in this thing, especially if we can pull out a win against them next week.

The Giants loss yesterday, I hope would compel Jerry Jones to make sure this team can make it through the absence of Romo. The Chicago Bears are now 2-4, I'm still hoping we can take some things off their hands. Namely Matt Forte or I'd like us to get some wide receiver help, but I don't see that really happening.

Players that need to go next year:
No surprise the players that I said needed to go this year: Carr and Free.

I'm trapped. Part of me wants to focus entirely on upgrading the secondary, the other part of me wants us to do whatever we can to draft Ezekiel Elliot. Really wish we had signed Cromartie and Tillman.

Running back notes:
Matt Forte - 507 yards (1st in the nfl)
Todd Gurley - 314 yards (16th in the nfl)
Melvin Gordon - 299 yards (18th in the nfl)
Joseph Randle - 289 yards (22nd in the nfl)
DeMarco Murray - 239 yards (31st in the nfl)
Darren McFadden - 129 yards (57th in the nfl)

GB, first, second, third priority this offseason should be to fix this sorry secondary. If we're going to stick with this defense, we need to get some corners that fit the system. Replace Church or Wilcox asap. It's inexcusable that they are still not making plays on the ball with a pass-rush. I watch NFL all around the league, every week I see corners and safeties making athletic interceptions and open field tackles. These guys can't tackle and they can't catch balls thrown right to them. I'd also look to upgrade the secondary coach. His group hasn't improved at all the last 3 years.

 

[darthseinfeld]

RBBC = 418 yards. Good for 2nd. Don't forget the bye week also played a part in this. Odds are, they would be in first.

Try 18th best

 

[stilltheguru88]

Melvin gordon is a bust

 

[Galian Beast]

They are not going to make any trades at this time. We do not need Forte
They are not going to cut any players, except for Moore when Romo returns. Or a player lower on the depth chart if they don't work out, like Rod Smith or one of the OL, like Brown, if they activate Green.

Why show a chart comparing RBs when we have RBBC, of course they will be lower ranked. That is like having an agenda against them. A RB that has few series a game will be near the last. Your chart is biased IMO.

As much as I a want them to get Elliot next year, the only way that happens if we don't win another game, or only a few, or we trade up. Which I am for trading up to get him.

And we will be getting WR help, Butler will be back this week, and possibly Dez, if not this week then the next week.

You really came to your own conclusion here. I posted it to show where our running backs were compared to the running backs most people wanted at some point (though I forgot to add Peterson). My point mostly was that we made the right choice not resigning Murray.

I don't see a trade happening. And the defense isn't exactly out in the clear either. We looked good on defense for roughly 3 quarters against the Patriots. You hope with Hardy, Gregory and McClain coming back that the defense will really turn it on down the stretch, but I'll believe it when I actually see it.

I actually like the addition of Rod Smith.





YR

I don't see a trade happening, but I think one should happen. I think this is our year and I would be devastated if we missed the playoffs before we could show that.

its like you never watched a Giants Cowboys game ever. How is it likely the giants are goign to lose against us at any rate. I have seen bad Giant teams beat good dallas teams and vice versa. There mere fact you are so confident the Cowboys are going to win questions if you even have the basic understanding of whats going on.



Carr and Free car and free car and free, SAY SOMETHING ORGINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Wow, you picked teh two unpopular kids. Wow. Than you put on the 20 20 glasses. Amazing how that works.

We've dominated the Giants the last few times we've played them. I feel like you're living in the past. Also if you think I'm using hindsight regarding Free and Carr, please ask someone to help you out.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/doug-frees-second-injury-in-one-year.309591/

This is me calling for Free not to be resigned back in December last year.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/claiborne-and-carr-never-fit.320892/

Here is me saying Carr and Claiborne don't fit this defense back in May.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-should-go-after-cromartie.316750/page-4#post-6011608

Here is me saying we should have gotten Cromartie and Tillman back in March. Notice the lack of Carr.

 

[Galian Beast]

GB, first, second, third priority this offseason should be to fix this sorry secondary. If we're going to stick with this defense, we need to get some corners that fit the system. Replace Church or Wilcox asap. It's inexcusable that they are still not making plays on the ball with a pass-rush. I watch NFL all around the league, every week I see corners and safeties making athletic interceptions and open field tackles. These guys can't tackle and they can't catch balls thrown right to them. I'd also look to upgrade the secondary coach. His group hasn't improved at all the last 3 years.

I have no confidence in Jerome Henderson at all. Hasn't developed a single player since he got here. Reminds me of the special teams coach Rich Bissachia.... I have no idea why they are still here.

That being said, I do think they'll improve with the pass rush now, but none of these guys have hands or instincts.