Generational talent

[Mark]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

 

[nate dizzle]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

It's hard to look at this kid and not think that right now, whether you're corporate media or fan. Assuming his career isn't going to get derailed by off field issues or injury, and that he will continue to get better with experience, it's a pretty solid bet to say this dude will be one of the greats. There's always time to change your mind later, but it's okay to be really excited about him now.

 

[JoeKing]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

CZers, I swear that's not me with that commentary of Parsons. I didn't do it.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Generational talent just means potential. Doesn't mean it will necessarily be realized.

 

[JBS]

It’s called generational “talent” not generational production

 

[HungryLion]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

I think you’re overly focused on the word “generational” and not paying enough attention to the word “talent”


They’re not saying generational production or generational on field play necessarily.

they are talking about talent level.

Micah Parsons is a freak of a talented football player. When you mix physical ability, natural instincts, strength, speed, quickness, etc.


that talent level is generational.

Now he still has to actually maintain the level of play. But the natural talent is on that level.

He is one of the most gifted linebackers/Pass rushers I’ve ever seen.”

 

[Mark]

Appreciate the comments. If "generational talent" is simply an estimate of potential, have we not seen such a hundred times over the past few decades? Todd Marinovich? Tony Mandarich? Ryan Leaf? Etc., etc., etc. I'm simply remarking on what may (or may not) strike one as a trendy, over-the-top descriptor.

Don't get me wrong...I think Micah is an absolute beast. I just hate all the pressure being heaped upon him by the fans.

 

[Reality]

The only true generational talent in the league right now is Tom Brady.

There have been many "NEXT GREATEST OF ALL TIME" players come in the league and have one or two great seasons and people were already voting them into the HOF and deciding where they ranked in the greatest of all time lists only to have the player drop off, get injured or simply get figured out by the league.

Micah Parsons is amazing, but he's not even through one season yet so there is no way he is "generational talent" at this point.

After 7 or 8 seasons, if he's maintained this performance level or improved on it, then we can start talking about him being a generational talent.

 

[Aviano90]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

First time I heard it was with Zeke in 2016.

 

[nate dizzle]

Appreciate the comments. If "generational talent" is simply an estimate of potential, have we not seen such a hundred times over the past few decades? Todd Marinovich? Tony Mandarich? Ryan Leaf? Etc., etc., etc. I'm simply remarking on what may (or may not) strike one as a trendy, over-the-top descriptor.

Don't get me wrong...I think Micah is an absolute beast. I just hate all the pressure being heaped upon him by the fans.

True enough, but he seems to welcome the pressure and he seems exceptionally driven to prove he's everything we think and hope he is. Pressure bursts pipes and creates diamonds. My bet is he will end up the latter.

 

[Malhavoc]

I think the way we plan to use Parsons will have a lot do do with how special he can be. You want this guy to be a primary pass rusher, but you also want him to be the beast in the middle in certain situations.

 

[Vanilla2]

I hear that from time to time but I just try to stay humble.

 

[john van brocklin]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

True

 

[CATCH17]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

Body of work and talent aren’t the same thing.


No matter how many Super Bowl Tom Brady wins he’s still not a very talented player.

 

[Ken]

Does anyone else bristle at this corporate-speak term? Pretty sure I first heard it applied to Trevor Lawrence. Now, to Micah Parsons. One would think that such grandiose anointments should be made a generation hence...after a reasonable body of work has been established & evaluated in context. Certainly not in the rookie year of a player's career.

Not when it is warranted.

I don't know that I have seen a player who had the size, speed, and natural instincts that Parsons possesses. Can't think of a player who runs a 4.3, can cover, tackle, and pass rush- all at elite levels.

 

[Mark]

Body of work and talent aren’t the same thing.


No matter how many Super Bowl Tom Brady wins he’s still not a very talented player.

What an odd comment. In what respect is Brady not talented? Can't throw? Can't see the field? Can't strategize? Can't lead? Just lucky, surrounded by "generational talent.?" ;-) Help us out here.

 

[CATCH17]

What an odd comment. In what respect is Brady not talented? Can't throw? Can't see the field? Can't strategize? Can't lead? Just lucky, surrounded by "generational talent.?" ;-) Help us out here.

There is nothing special about his game on the field.

Brady is just more skilled and has the mental side of football mastered.

His physical tools are mediocre.

 

[Mark]

There is nothing special about his game on the field.

Brady is just more skilled and has the mental side of football mastered.

His physical tools are mediocre.

Do you not contradict yourself mightily? Is "talent" all physical, or would you say that "football IQ" and intellectual mastery of the nuances of the game are equally - if not more - important?

 

[Tussinman]

Agreed. It's takes a little time to truly know

For example by Zach Martins end of the rookie contract you knew he was generational talent. When he retires he'll be like the 3rd interior o-lineman to make 1 ballot in like a 40 year span (textbook generational right there).

Quentin Nelson was another one they where hyping as generational talent but he has had a slight skid last year due to injuries and is playing pretty medicore this season due to injury as well (he might of been crowned generational too soon)

 

[kskboys]

Appreciate the comments. If "generational talent" is simply an estimate of potential, have we not seen such a hundred times over the past few decades? Todd Marinovich? Tony Mandarich? Ryan Leaf? Etc., etc., etc. I'm simply remarking on what may (or may not) strike one as a trendy, over-the-top descriptor.

Don't get me wrong...I think Micah is an absolute beast. I just hate all the pressure being heaped upon him by the fans.

If any of those guys were called generational talent, the user of that term in this instance needs to be cancelled.