this is one of those "just shake your head" type things. You gotta feel for everyone in the situation. But you would think that a 16 year old kid would know what sex sounds like. The 11 yr old may have been worried, but when you saw they were both naked, there is your first clue. However, the fact that the dad has abused her bofore is inexcusable. Also, the fact that she stayed with him after being abused multiple times is rediculous. This is screwed up all the way around...............................................no pun intended...lol