Giants' Kiwanuka accuses Samuels of dirty play

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Updated: September 5, 2008, 6:40 PM EST

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) - New York Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka said on Friday that Washington Commanders tackle Chris Samuels made a dirty play when he fell on the back of his ankle after being beaten on a pass rush on the final play of the NFL season opener.

Kiwanuka hurt his left ankle on the play. X-rays were negative, but the ankle was still sore on Friday, and so was Kiwanuka.

Replays showed that Kiwanuka beat Samuel to the outside on a pass rush and started moving toward Commanders quarterback Jason Campbell in the waning seconds of the Giants' 16-7 victory.

Samuels quickly turned and made a low lunging tackle, wrapping his arms around Kiwanuka's legs. His upper torso pinned Kiwanuka's left ankle.

"Honestly, I thought it was a dirty play," Kiwanuka said. "There's no question about it. He was definitely beat and instead of recovering or giving up, I don't know how many options you had, but I just don't think there is any place for that in the NFL."

Samuels said he wasn't trying to hurt anyone.

"On that particular play I was just trying to protect my quarterback," Samuels said through a Commanders spokesman. "It was never my intention to go out there and injure another player."

Replays also showed Samuels wave his arms in a move that suggested that he was upset after the play. He stood over Kiwanuka as Giants trainers came on the field.

"Samuels, I spoke to him right after and he said it wasn't intentional and I will just leave that at that," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Friday.

Kiwanuka was upset, especially after missing the final six games of last season with a broken lower leg that also caused ligament damage to his ankle.

"I don't think there is any place for that in professional football," he said.

Kiwanuka also wasn't buying the idea that Samuels was trying to protect his quarterback.

"That doesn't matter. Honestly, you take hits," Kiwanuka said. "I took a big hit during the game and at this level, this is something that happens. Even the greatest players get knocked down. You have to stand back up, be a man and line up for the next snap. Something like that, I would never do it, having been out for the end of last season I know how valuable these games are. I would never do it to anybody, and I wouldn't expect anyone to do it to me."

Drafted in the first round in 2006 as a defensive end, Kiwanuka has a big role this season in the wake of the season-ending knee injury to Pro Bowler Osi Umenyiora. It forced Coughlin to switch him back from linebacker to end a couple of weeks ago.

Kiwanuka was worried that he was seriously injured after the play, but he knew it was not serious when he was able to put pressure on the ankle. He has not talked with Samuels. He does not believe the player targeted his left ankle, but he believes he deliberately jumped on it after being beaten.

"I don't think he thought that deep into it," Kiwanuka said. "He definitely tried to make a play intentionally that I felt was out of line."

Fellow defensive end Justin Tuck understands Samuels desire to protect his quarterback, but he did not condone the play.

"You put another players' health in the balance, that is always going to be questionable," Tuck said. "I know Chris. He is not a guy who will go out there and intentionally hurt a guy. It was just a bad judgment play."

Defensive captain Antonio Pierce said the play was not pretty.

"I don't want to label anybody, but obviously a play that should not have happened."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8529736/Giants'-Kiwanuka-accuses-Samuels-of-dirty-play
 

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it was a very dirty play...mk is lucky he did not suffer a broken leg on that play.
 

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"nobody gives us respect" "he tried to hurt me" "wah wah wah"
 

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I didn't see it as a dirty play. There was even a replay of it and it looked like Samuels fell and then tried to trip him up as he came down.
 

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lane;2238236 said:
it was a very dirty play...mk is lucky he did not suffer a broken leg on that play.

So is it dirty then when a defensive player tackles a ball carrier, WR, or QB down from behind like that?

I doubt if Tuck, or his buddy Kiw, had tackled Clinton Portis like that and hurt him that they'd view it as a dirty play.

Samuels tackled him to protect his QB, which is his job. Yes you don't want to hold, obviously, but you don't just let your QB get crushed from behind either.

I doubt, very seriously, that Samuels was trying to hurt him and this is a joke, at best, with this dirty play crap.
 

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First time, I have ever heard of Samuels being involved in a dirty play.

Sounds unlikely.
 

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Commanders | Kiwanuka gets blown up by Portis
Sat, 6 Sep 2008 06:28:55 -0700

WRBB's Heather May reports New York Giants DL Mathias Kiwanuka (Bruised ego, Whiplash, contused Jaw) says that Washington Commanders RB Clinton Portis made a dirty play when he blew him up. "Honestly, I thought it was a dirty play," Kiwanuka said. "There's no question about it, I never saw him, he knew that. I don't know how many options you had, but I just don't think there is any place for that in the NFL to hit a defenseless DE with a blindside block like that." Portis said he indeed was trying to hurt Kiwanuka. "On that particular play I was just trying to protect my quarterback, I knocked the snot out of him with a legal hit and will do it again, Book it."
 

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BraveHeartFan;2238530 said:
So is it dirty then when a defensive player tackles a ball carrier, WR, or QB down from behind like that?

I doubt if Tuck, or his buddy Kiw, had tackled Clinton Portis like that and hurt him that they'd view it as a dirty play.

Samuels tackled him to protect his QB, which is his job. Yes you don't want to hold, obviously, but you don't just let your QB get crushed from behind either.

I doubt, very seriously, that Samuels was trying to hurt him and this is a joke, at best, with this dirty play crap.

I agree. Samuels knew he was beat and did what he could to protect his QB. That is not a dirty play. It was just unfortunate that Mathias hurt his ankle on the play.
 

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I swear the Giants whine more than any team I have ever seen.....all they have done for the last two years is whine whine whine.

The March of the Cherokees (known as the Trail of Tears)....had less crying than the Meadowlands Lockerroom.....

Hell, there were less tears shed during Titanic's epic run at the box office......
 

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WoodysGirl;2238229 said:
Updated: September 5, 2008, 6:40 PM EST

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) - New York Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka said on Friday that Washington Commanders tackle Chris Samuels made a dirty play when he fell on the back of his ankle after being beaten on a pass rush on the final play of the NFL season opener.

Kiwanuka hurt his left ankle on the play. X-rays were negative, but the ankle was still sore on Friday, and so was Kiwanuka.

Replays showed that Kiwanuka beat Samuel to the outside on a pass rush and started moving toward Commanders quarterback Jason Campbell in the waning seconds of the Giants' 16-7 victory.

Samuels quickly turned and made a low lunging tackle, wrapping his arms around Kiwanuka's legs. His upper torso pinned Kiwanuka's left ankle.

"Honestly, I thought it was a dirty play," Kiwanuka said. "There's no question about it. He was definitely beat and instead of recovering or giving up, I don't know how many options you had, but I just don't think there is any place for that in the NFL."

Samuels said he wasn't trying to hurt anyone.

"On that particular play I was just trying to protect my quarterback," Samuels said through a Commanders spokesman. "It was never my intention to go out there and injure another player."

Replays also showed Samuels wave his arms in a move that suggested that he was upset after the play. He stood over Kiwanuka as Giants trainers came on the field.

"Samuels, I spoke to him right after and he said it wasn't intentional and I will just leave that at that," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Friday.

Kiwanuka was upset, especially after missing the final six games of last season with a broken lower leg that also caused ligament damage to his ankle.

"I don't think there is any place for that in professional football," he said.

Kiwanuka also wasn't buying the idea that Samuels was trying to protect his quarterback.

"That doesn't matter. Honestly, you take hits," Kiwanuka said. "I took a big hit during the game and at this level, this is something that happens. Even the greatest players get knocked down. You have to stand back up, be a man and line up for the next snap. Something like that, I would never do it, having been out for the end of last season I know how valuable these games are. I would never do it to anybody, and I wouldn't expect anyone to do it to me."

Drafted in the first round in 2006 as a defensive end, Kiwanuka has a big role this season in the wake of the season-ending knee injury to Pro Bowler Osi Umenyiora. It forced Coughlin to switch him back from linebacker to end a couple of weeks ago.

Kiwanuka was worried that he was seriously injured after the play, but he knew it was not serious when he was able to put pressure on the ankle. He has not talked with Samuels. He does not believe the player targeted his left ankle, but he believes he deliberately jumped on it after being beaten.

"I don't think he thought that deep into it," Kiwanuka said. "He definitely tried to make a play intentionally that I felt was out of line."

Fellow defensive end Justin Tuck understands Samuels desire to protect his quarterback, but he did not condone the play.

"You put another players' health in the balance, that is always going to be questionable," Tuck said. "I know Chris. He is not a guy who will go out there and intentionally hurt a guy. It was just a bad judgment play."

Defensive captain Antonio Pierce said the play was not pretty.

"I don't want to label anybody, but obviously a play that should not have happened."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8529736/Giants'-Kiwanuka-accuses-Samuels-of-dirty-play


man I can't stand the giants
 

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It's official.. the G'nads are the NFL's biggest crybaby's no way lookin around it. all they ever do is cry and cry, sick of them punks. and i thought the chargeless were the biggest crybaby's.
 

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if that happened to a Cowboys player, you guys would be up in arms.

Kiwanuka reacted the way he did because he is playing for the first time in the regular season since he broke his leg. I am sure that makes him more sensitive to something like this.

But don't for one second pretend you guys wouldn't be outraged if Ware was brought down like that.
 

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Tom [Giants fan];2239984 said:
if that happened to a Cowboys player, you guys would be up in arms.

Kiwanuka reacted the way he did because he is playing for the first time in the regular season since he broke his leg. I am sure that makes him more sensitive to something like this.

But don't for one second pretend you guys wouldn't be outraged if Ware was brought down like that.
don't compare kiwi to Ware
 

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T.O81;2239848 said:
It's official.. the G'nads are the NFL's biggest crybaby's no way lookin around it. all they ever do is cry and cry, sick of them punks. and i thought the chargeless were the biggest crybaby's.

Hey Romo, how's the chin?
 

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Spytheweb;2255215 said:
Hey Romo, how's the chin?
And did Romo cry to the media like the typical Giant players saying that it was a dirty play?
 

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It was a dirty play because Samuels intentionaly used an illegal move to bring down Kiwi, which resulted in injury. So yes, Samuels is a dirty player because of the intent of the move.

However, the Whinants do need some pacifiers. But this whine is legit. The whole board would be up in arms if ware got hurt like that. People would be crying about fines and suspensions.
 
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