Gil Brandt talks Henry and Romo - 6/7/08

theogt

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Thanks dude, but I couldn't hardly understand a word Gil was saying. Is it me or the file?
 

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theogt;2110050 said:
Thanks dude, but I couldn't hardly understand a word Gil was saying. Is it me or the file?
it's Gil trying to swallow the mic. if he wants henry at fs it would've been nice 2 hear who he wants to play ss.
 

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Rampage;2110058 said:
it's Gil trying to swallow the mic. if he wants henry at fs it would've been nice 2 hear who he wants to play ss.
well I think the assumption is that moving Henry to FS means Hamlin moves to SS and Roy gets the boot.
 

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theogt;2110050 said:
Thanks dude, but I couldn't hardly understand a word Gil was saying. Is it me or the file?

It's Gil's crappy phone. I don't think he's in studio because the host comes thru fine, but Gil sounds a little muffled.
 

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Also couldn't hear it well. Can somebody tell me what he said about Romo beyond the need for Romo to play well in December.
 

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sago1;2110092 said:
Also couldn't hear it well. Can somebody tell me what he said about Romo beyond the need for Romo to play well in December.

..the Cowboys as a team and also Romo as QB in the last 2 years he's played has only won 50% of his games in December including the playoffs.

He said that the difference b/w Dallas and NE or the Jints specifically last year, was that Manning improved at the end of the season and it carried over into the playoffs where it counted.

That the QB must be the catalyst for playoff wins and Romo hasn't produced yet there.

That's the reason Dallas hasn't gone further.

The QB play.

And he's right.

Romo was rendered very conservative in the Seattle and the Jints losses.

The coaches got very much away from what he is comfortable with and IMO were playing not to lose as oppossed to trying to win in both the playoff losses.

You just can't do that in the playoffs. Or it's one and done.

Interesting comments by Brandt.

Still a very acute football scout.

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSS :starspin
 

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Redball Express;2110172 said:
..the Cowboys as a team and also Romo as QB in the last 2 years he's played has only won 50% of his games in December including the playoffs.

He said that the difference b/w Dallas and NE or the Jints specifically last year, was that Manning improved at the end of the season and it carried over into the playoffs where it counted.

That the QB must be the catalyst for playoff wins and Romo hasn't produced yet there.

That's the reason Dallas hasn't gone further
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The QB play.

And he's right.


Romo was rendered very conservative in the Seattle and the Jints losses.

The coaches got very much away from what he is comfortable with and IMO were playing not to lose as oppossed to trying to win in both the playoff losses.

You just can't do that in the playoffs. Or it's one and done.


Interesting comments by Brandt.

Still a very acute football scout.

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSS :starspin

I completely disagree Romo is not the reason the Cowboys havent gone further. While is part of the reason, he is not THE reason.

Our gameplan against the Seahawks was horrible at the very least. Dropping the FG attempt is inexcusable, but to have our offensive gameplan that we did combined with our defense folding in crunch time after Romo's drop didnt help.

Our gameplan against the Giants was perfect. Their pass rush came on strong, and what did we do to counter it? Had a beautiful running game plan. They adjusted in the 2nd half, and we were forced into obvious passing situations where they got to unleash their pass rush on us.

We also allow the Gmen to score on a 49 yard TD pass where we couldnt tackle, then at the end of the first half give up a TD drive in under a minute. That's not on Romo. Granted he missed passes that he normally made, and made a few bad decisions in crunch time, but before Peyton won a Super Bowl he choked HORRIBLY in big games. And if you're talking about Eli that improved, you do realize he threw 4 picks, 3 of which were returned for TD's in the Vikings game. Hardly improving. He's the same Eli. Inconsistant. Dont try to make him into something he's not.

To put the playoff losses on Romo is insane. He had a very good game against Seattle given the gameplan, and besides the dropped FG I was very pleased with his performance.

The Giants game was an overall team loss. Every side of the ball had their mishaps. From Romo taking a big sack, and getting called for (a bad call) Intentional Grounding, to our defense forgetting how to tackle, to Crayton dropping the ball to our Oline getting worn out and not blocking.
 

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You know, Romo wasn't flawless in the Giants game, but he was certainly NOT the main reason we didn't win. Fasano or Crayton hold on to the ball and the Cowboys likely win. Didn't the Cowboys convert something like 9 straight 3rd downs? Romo was a big reason why. He even had another huge 3rd down pass called back because Glenn lined up incorrectly. Crayton's drop was ENORMOUS. Fasano's dropped TD was the point difference in the game. Romo was good enough to win and he was good enought to win the Seattle game if it wasn't for a series of flukish things occurring (Glenn's fumble and the bobble of the slick ball - not QB play). Romo certainly could have played better, but he did not lay an egg in either of those games. Sometimes the breaks don't fall your way. I have a feeling this team will be focused and shut the critics up this year.
 

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I doubt Tex is laying all on Romo. Rather he is saying you must have stellar QB play in the playoffs if you want to advance. And for the most part that is true. At times a defense has carried the day but generally a QB catches fire or is just that good.

Aikman is a great example of a QB that picks it up in the postseason. I will agree QBs have always gotten too much credit and too much blame. But the general idea of your QB having to bump it up in the playoffs is generally true.
 

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jobberone;2110275 said:
I doubt Tex is laying all on Romo. Rather he is saying you must have stellar QB play in the playoffs if you want to advance. And for the most part that is true. At times a defense has carried the day but generally a QB catches fire or is just that good.

Aikman is a great example of a QB that picks it up in the postseason. I will agree QBs have always gotten too much credit and too much blame. But the general idea of your QB having to bump it up in the playoffs is generally true.

Tex? lol. I know you meant Tex Schramm. I used to do the same exact thing.

I wonder how many more people get them confused?
 

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NextGenBoys;2110239 said:
I completely disagree Romo is not the reason the Cowboys havent gone further. While is part of the reason, he is not THE reason.


To put the playoff losses on Romo is insane. He had a very good game against Seattle given the gameplan, and besides the dropped FG I was very pleased with his performance.

The Giants game was an overall team loss. Every side of the ball had their mishaps. From Romo taking a big sack, and getting called for (a bad call) Intentional Grounding, to our defense forgetting how to tackle, to Crayton dropping the ball to our Oline getting worn out and not blocking.

That is very true. Unfortunately, that is the life of an NFL quarterback.

When Dallas lost to Cleveland in 1968 34-20, was it Meridith's fault Tom Landry's defense had no answer for Paul Warfield? Despite getting out of a hospital bed the day before?

Was that Danny White that let Montana drive the length of the field to score the winning touchdown? Not on the drive itself, but you could make a case for the before and after the drive. Regardless, the Doomsday Defense let us down. Scoring 27 points should be efficient enough to win a playoff game.

So, like it or not, Romo is joining those ranks. It always goes back to the quarterback.
 

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Manster68;2110281 said:
That is very true. Unfortunately, that is the life of an NFL quarterback.

When Dallas lost to Cleveland in 1968 34-20, was it Meridith's fault Tom Landry's defense had no answer for Paul Warfield? Despite getting out of a hospital bed the day before?

Was that Danny White that let Montana drive the length of the field to score the winning touchdown? Not on the drive itself, but you could make a case for the before and after the drive. Regardless, the Doomsday Defense let us down. Scoring 27 points should be efficient enough to win a playoff game.

So, like it or not, Romo is joining those ranks. It always goes back to the quarterback.
well i hope Romo doesn't end up like they did.
 

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dcfanatic;2110280 said:
Tex? lol. I know you meant Tex Schramm. I used to do the same exact thing.

I wonder how many more people get them confused?

I know the difference. I just had a senior moment. I like Gil. We owe him and Tex a lot.
 

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I do not agree Romo is the reason we lost those playoff games.
Sorry Gil but it's not that simple.
The Seattle playoff lost was a combination of Parcells conservative heavy handed approach of our offense and that made the game very close at the end when Glenn and Romo made some costly mistakes at the very end.
The Giants loss was due to the fact that we got beat in 2 out of the 3 phases of the game.
I think our defense held it's own against the Giants.
But our offense and especially our special teams got beaten badly in that game.
Our offense played well in the first half but then our offensive line was beaten badly by the Giants D-line in the second half.
And our special teams was horrible all game long against the Giants.
We were constantly losing field position because of lousy kick coverage all game long.
I really think Romo was the main reason we had a chance to win that game at the end, especially with the Giants d-line in his face the entire second half.
 

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Redball Express;2110172 said:
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Interesting comments by Brandt.

Still a very acute football scout.

I love what Gil Brandt helped build this team into in the 70's, but honestly he is the main reason this team tackled so badly in the mid to late 80's and probably the reason that we could never get over the top in the early 80's and actually win another super bowl...his drafting was basically putrid from 1978 onward...he had a couple of cases of bad luck and in the end, did draft Irvin, Norton and Hennings but otherwise, he was about as bad as it got as a scout


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