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2nd WR Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian (5-11 1/2, 185 pounds, 4.34)
REASON Knox has everything you want in a receiver other than size and pedigree. His speed shows on the field and he has soft hands and does a good job of catching with his hands. He's rated lower as an unknown, but I think his speed and production (30 TDs in two seasons, 1,000-yard seasons) will shoot him up draft boards, and deservedly so.
ALTERNATE Depends on who falls from higher-rated groups. Obviously, if a first-round talent falls to 51, we should take him and hope to get Knox in the third.

3rd C/G Eric Wood, Louisville (6-3 7/8, 310, 5.18)
REASON Wood could be gone in the second round, but I think there's a chance he'll slip to the third because of how strong the center group is in this draft. A smart, tough and competitive player who can back up both the center and guard spots and eventually move into a starting role.
ALTERNATE C Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas (possibly with slight trade down)

4th ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina (6-1 1/2, 252, 4.69)
REASON Brinkley is a big, strong player who had a great season in 2006 before being set back by an injury in 2007. I don't think he was completely back to health in 2008 and feel he's on the same level as Bradie James as a linebacker.
ALTERNATE ILB Jason Phillips, TCU

4th S Michael Hamlin, Clemson (6-2, 214, 4.59)
REASON Instinctive player with good size and work ethic. Good on-field leader and solid tackler.
ALTERNATE FS DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati

5th CB/S Lardarius Webb, Nicholls State (5-9 3/4, 179, 4.39)
REASON I like feisty, fast guys. Webb plays bigger than his size and easily stood out at his level of competition. He breaks on the ball well and is not afraid to hit.
ALTERNATES CB Ryan Mouton, Hawaii or CB Domonique Johnson, Jackson State or CB Chris Owens, San Jose State

5th NT Roy Miller, Texas (6-1 1/4, 310, 4.99)
REASON Although he's short, Miller is relentless, understands leverage and is technically sound. He's not likely to shed blocks and make a lot of plays, but will work tirelessly to clog the middle as Jay Ratliff's backup
ALTERNATES NT Sammie Hill, Stillman or NT Terrance Knighton, Temple

5th OLB Connor Barwin, Cincinnati (6-3 3/4, 256, 4.59)
REASON Converted to defensive end from tight end in 2008 and had 11 sacks. All his measurables are great, but he has a lot to learn about playing defense. Plays hard, though, and has good first step quickness.
ALTERNATE OLB Victor Butler, Oregon State

6th OT Sebastian Vollmer, Houston (6-7 1/4, 314, 5.4)
REASON Has good quickness and speed and plays hard. Needs to work on his strength, but showed some improvement in that area as the 2008 season wore on and at the East-West Shrine game. From Germany and still learning the game.
ALTERNATES G/T Robert Brewster, Ball State or G/T Cornelius Lewis, Tennessee State

6th CB Mark Parson, Ohio (5-8 1/2, 188, 4.5)
REASON Does a good job of shadowing receivers and had 31 career pass breakups. Fluid and confident.
ALTERNATES CB Don Carey, Norfolk State or CB Greg Toler, St. Paul's

7th WR Domonique Edison, Stephen F. Austin (6-2 1/2, 204, 4.42)
REASON Nice ability to separate and production.
ALTERNATE WR Chris Williams, New Mexico State

7th QB Liam Coen, Massachusetts (6-1 1/2, 225)
REASON Has completed over 60 percent of his passes every year, has a strong enough arm, nice touch and timing. Good student of the game and will stand in against pressure and make good decisions.
ALTERNATE QB Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas
 

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There's a lot going on here that I don't agree with but thanks for sharing your mock.
 

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TheCount;2717008 said:
There's a lot going on here that I don't agree with but thanks for sharing your mock.

Well, I'm used to people disagreeing with me, and certainly expect it when it comes to mock drafts.

Figured I'd get blasted for the Knox pick, but I really believe in the kid and think GMs are going to have him higher-rated than all the so-called draft "experts" out there.
 

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I'm not saying small school players can't be giants, but dang. This looks like a post Jimmy-pre Parcells Jerruh concoction sans some obligatory dude from Ohio State who can't play.
 

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5th OLB Connor Barwin, in every mock draft I have seen this player is being picked in either round 1 or 2, the fifth round will never happen. Not especially trilled with this mock, but hey thanks for the effort.
 

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dbair1967;2717176 said:
I stopped reading right there.

Except for the Knox (2nd) and Barwin (5th) pick, that seems like a reasonable draft. Barwin will be a top 50 pick and you're drafting Knox a full 2-3 rounds early.
 

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RamziD;2717372 said:
Except for the Knox (2nd) and Barwin (5th) pick, that seems like a reasonable draft. Barwin will be a top 50 pick and you're drafting Knox a full 2-3 rounds early.


May be better flipping these two picks. I think you over value a few guys and I like a lot of your alternatives over your primaries.
 

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Gimmie,

I like your draft a lot other than Knox in the 2nd and Barwin in the 5th.

I don't think there is any way Barwin drops that much, unless there is some drug scandal we don't know about. He most likely goes in the 2nd and possibly the 3rd if something dramatic happens.

As for Knox, I could see taking him maybe in the mid to late 4th, but no earlier, IMO.
 

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Woods;2717403 said:
Gimmie,

I like your draft a lot other than Knox in the 2nd and Barwin in the 5th.

I don't think there is any way Barwin drops that much, unless there is some drug scandal we don't know about. He most likely goes in the 2nd and possibly the 3rd if something dramatic happens.

As for Knox, I could see taking him maybe in the mid to late 4th, but no earlier, IMO.

I guess I've missed it on Barwin. The things I've read said to expect him to be a middle- or late-round choice, primarily because of his lack of time and experience on defense. But I can understand him being higher-rated based on productivity and speed.

That's partly why I believe Knox will be higher-rated among teams. I can't see any reason other than him being from a small school and being 5-11 and slight built for him to make it past the second round.

I could be wrong about it, and wouldn't mind getting him later, but I think he's worth taking in the second and believe that's where he'll go.

I certainly like him over several "higher-rated" players who have real flaws in their games but are getting more love simply because the experts believe they are supposed to. How many times have the experts been proven to be wrong?

This kid has the all-around ability that some of these other receivers don't possess, and I won't mind at all if Dallas takes him in the second.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2717087 said:
DING DING DING!!! We got a winner!!

The worst Mock Draft in AFL/NFL history!!!!!!!

No, I'll let you keep that honor.
 

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dbair1967;2717176 said:
I stopped reading right there.

It's amazing how some people on a message board are such absolute experts on the draft.

What GMs have you talked to to know that Knox is not worth being taken in the second round?

Don't like the pick? Fine. But if you want to say something about it, why not at least throw out some facts to tell me why you wouldn't take Knox in the second instead of being snarky.

I really don't understand this ridicule attitude many fans have here any time anyone posts something.
 

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Monster Heel;2717105 said:
I'm not saying small school players can't be giants, but dang. This looks like a post Jimmy-pre Parcells Jerruh concoction sans some obligatory dude from Ohio State who can't play.

Yeah, I might get a little carried away with the small-school guys, probably cause their flaws aren't as exposed as the bigger-school players. But I did spend the third- and fourth-round picks and one in the fifth on big-school players ... that's got to count for something, right?
 

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I could see Knox jumping from the 4th-5th round, to the late 2nd-early 3rd, he kind of reminds me of Eddie Royal who was slated to go in the 3rd round last year, but was taken with the 11th pick of the 2nd round

it was pretty weak for receivers though, so...
 

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As I recall your mock draft last year were fairly out there. You should remember people in glass houses should not throw bricks. I agree this would not be my choice for the first pick but your other picks are very much right on especially the Vollmer kid, he is a big secret, nice choice. I sure would like to see the QB from A&M and Knox just a little lower down the board. No one knows anything about where anyone is going, I commend you on these choices, you still have the right to amend them at anytime without condemnation from the guys who missed Bennett and Jenkins last year. If I recall some of these guys were advocates of trading up for McFadden, can you imagine that? These are the same guys who think our special team play was OK and it was all the coach.
dbair1967;2717176 said:
I stopped reading right there. .
 

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Macnalty;2719011 said:
As I recall your mock draft last year were fairly out there. You should remember people in glass houses should not throw bricks. I agree this would not be my choice for the first pick but your other picks are very much right on especially the Vollmer kid, he is a big secret, nice choice. I sure would like to see the QB from A&M and Knox just a little lower down the board. No one knows anything about where anyone is going, I commend you on these choices, you still have the right to amend them at anytime without condemnation from the guys who missed Bennett and Jenkins last year. If I recall some of these guys were advocates of trading up for McFadden, can you imagine that? These are the same guys who think our special team play was OK and it was all the coach.

Can you maybe throw out some names on here that wanted to trade up for Mcfadden?? So I cannot listen to them again with their terrible credibility..PM me! lol..I think I know who some were...
 

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Dude.......some of your guys are WAY out of place. I mean 2-3 rounds out of place. But thanks for posting b/c we are all kind of bored around here and some of it does make sense.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2719010 said:
I could see Knox jumping from the 4th-5th round, to the late 2nd-early 3rd, he kind of reminds me of Eddie Royal who was slated to go in the 3rd round last year, but was taken with the 11th pick of the 2nd round

it was pretty weak for receivers though, so...

I think he will because, like Royal, he has one thing teams covet.

But he's not a one-trick pony because he also has good hands and runs good routes.

Now, I'm not for Dallas reaching to get him, but if the Cowboys see him as a legitimate value at that pick, I'm all for taking him. Obviously, I see him as a legitimate value at that pick ... but some people on here seem to think I'm crazy, so what do I know?
 

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DFWJC;2719043 said:
Dude.......some of your guys are WAY out of place. I mean 2-3 rounds out of place. But thanks for posting b/c we are all kind of bored around here and some of it does make sense.

I acknowledge that Barwin is out of place, and I know most believe Knox is, but who else do you consider 2-3 rounds off?
 
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