Gimme's interior offensive line draft

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Again, this is based on PFW draft guide profiles and projections.

1. G Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusetts
Mike Iupati (16) and center Maurkice Pouncey (18) are gone, and Ducasse probably should be considered gone as well as PFW's 24th-ranked prospect, but that would surprise me. If Dallas has Ducasse that high on its draft board, then I can understand taking him because of what he potentially can be. Ducasse has all the physical traits you could want and his flaws are mostly technical stuff that can be improved with good coaching. Still, this is really higher than I think he should go, but I'm going with PFW here. If you want to hold me to the technicality that he won't be here since he's 24th, then the next-best interior prospect is Indiana's Roger Saffold (33rd), who is very athletic but probably more suited to left tackle because he's a little too finesse-oriented for the inside.

2. G Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale
Another tackle-guard prospect with great upside. Seems a bit tall for guard, but PFW says he's "ideally suited" to play it, and his great movement skills and work ethic should help him be a factor wherever he plays. The No. 70th overall prospect.

3. G Sergio Render, Virginia Tech
I put Render here despite a fifth- to sixth-round grade because I just don't like what I read about the guards and centers graded in this range (and I'm a big advocate for Mitch Petrus). They are either suited for a zone-blocking scheme or have some major flaws. Render has flaws, too, in his work ethic and technical lapses, but has "starting-caliber physical tools" and pushes people around with a nasty streak. I probably would not draft him this high, but felt the need to put someone here.

4. C Joe Hawley, UNLV
Another player I'm overdrafting here is Hawley, another fifth- to sixth-round prospect. Hawley really intrigues me despite a lack of great size. He's a football-smart player with long arms who uses his hands well, has a strong work ethic and displays a nasty streak. He also has long-snapping ability. I'd actually love to pick him up in the sixth.

6. G Brandon Carter, Texas Tech or G Chris Scott, Tennessee
Carter, a late draftable pick, is a big, strong mauler with a lot of toughness and intensity. May be limited in his movement skills and can be overly emotional. Scott is another mauler, but has some fluctuating weight issues. This late draftable pick has had some big games against good competition (like Florida's Carlos Dunlap) and seems to have all the physical traits needed to succeed if he'll just stay motivated.

7. C Dorian Brooks, James Madison or C Ed Olsen, Notre Dame or G Reggie Stephens, Iowa State or C Sean Allen, East Carolina
Brooks, listed as a priority free agent, is an intriguing player. He's a converted defensive tackle with lots of upside because of his long arms, movement skills and balance. I was surprised to find that Olsen is listed as a priority free agent because so many seem high on him. PFW really knocks his athletic ability, which is not good for a center, but shows him love for his intangibles and core strength. Would be worth a look this late. Stephens is a fairly big boy who needs to work on his body, but he has strong hands, a good base and is tough. Getting him in the weight room could turn him into at least an adequate backup. Allen, a late draftable prospect, has decent size and strength, and enough movement skills to be effective even though he's limited athletically.
 
UnoDallas;3326149 said:
hey Gimme let me ask a stupid question

what is PFW ?

Pro Football Weekly. Their draft guide is one of the more comprehensive ones available in stores such as Hastings and it at least used to be considered one of the better draft guides when Joel Buschbaum was alive and running the show.

I haven't quite figured out if Nolan Nawrocki knows what he's talking about.
 
MarionBarberThe4th;3326151 said:
I think Chris Scott really has potential. He just needs to revamp his body.

It seems that the ability is there, but motivation might be a problem.
 
gimmesix;3326138 said:
Again, this is based on PFW draft guide profiles and projections.

1. G Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusetts
Mike Iupati (16) and center Maurkice Pouncey (18) are gone, and Ducasse probably should be considered gone as well as PFW's 24th-ranked prospect, but that would surprise me. If Dallas has Ducasse that high on its draft board, then I can understand taking him because of what he potentially can be. Ducasse has all the physical traits you could want and his flaws are mostly technical stuff that can be improved with good coaching. Still, this is really higher than I think he should go, but I'm going with PFW here. If you want to hold me to the technicality that he won't be here since he's 24th, then the next-best interior prospect is Indiana's Roger Saffold (33rd), who is very athletic but probably more suited to left tackle because he's a little too finesse-oriented for the inside.

2. G Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale
Another tackle-guard prospect with great upside. Seems a bit tall for guard, but PFW says he's "ideally suited" to play it, and his great movement skills and work ethic should help him be a factor wherever he plays. The No. 70th overall prospect.

3. G Sergio Render, Virginia Tech
I put Render here despite a fifth- to sixth-round grade because I just don't like what I read about the guards and centers graded in this range (and I'm a big advocate for Mitch Petrus). They are either suited for a zone-blocking scheme or have some major flaws. Render has flaws, too, in his work ethic and technical lapses, but has "starting-caliber physical tools" and pushes people around with a nasty streak. I probably would not draft him this high, but felt the need to put someone here.

4. C Joe Hawley, UNLV
Another player I'm overdrafting here is Hawley, another fifth- to sixth-round prospect. Hawley really intrigues me despite a lack of great size. He's a football-smart player with long arms who uses his hands well, has a strong work ethic and displays a nasty streak. He also has long-snapping ability. I'd actually love to pick him up in the sixth.

6. G Brandon Carter, Texas Tech or G Chris Scott, Tennessee
Carter, a late draftable pick, is a big, strong mauler with a lot of toughness and intensity. May be limited in his movement skills and can be overly emotional. Scott is another mauler, but has some fluctuating weight issues. This late draftable pick has had some big games against good competition (like Florida's Carlos Dunlap) and seems to have all the physical traits needed to succeed if he'll just stay motivated.

7. C Dorian Brooks, James Madison or C Ed Olsen, Notre Dame or G Reggie Stephens, Iowa State or C Sean Allen, East Carolina
Brooks, listed as a priority free agent, is an intriguing player. He's a converted defensive tackle with lots of upside because of his long arms, movement skills and balance. I was surprised to find that Olsen is listed as a priority free agent because so many seem high on him. PFW really knocks his athletic ability, which is not good for a center, but shows him love for his intangibles and core strength. Would be worth a look this late. Stephens is a fairly big boy who needs to work on his body, but he has strong hands, a good base and is tough. Getting him in the weight room could turn him into at least an adequate backup. Allen, a late draftable prospect, has decent size and strength, and enough movement skills to be effective even though he's limited athletically.

Where's Alabama G Mike Johnson on your list?, he was rated by PFW as a 2nd or 3rd round pick, would be a good fit for us.
 
AmishCowboy;3326178 said:
Where's Alabama G Mike Johnson on your list?, he was rated by PFW as a 2nd or 3rd round pick, would be a good fit for us.

What I read about him makes me believe he would not be a good pick for our team. (I did figure I would be asked about him, though.)

PFW says he has a "core strength deficiency" and "natural leverage disadvantage" that makes him a better fit for a slide-zone protection scheme as a backup. In the guide, he's listed as a third- to fourth-round pick.

I don't think he'd make a good guard for us based on the assessment. His profile sounds a lot like what we see from Cory Proctor.
 
we don't go 1st interior unless the BEST guy is there. Your look at the history of the draft and you are a fool to take the 2nd or 3rd best interior lineman in the first. Most years ONE guy if any at the C-G position go first round. A third interior lineman in the first round? Come the frick on.
 
AbeBeta;3326228 said:
we don't go 1st interior unless the BEST guy is there. Your look at the history of the draft and you are a fool to take the 2nd or 3rd best interior lineman in the first. Most years ONE guy if any at the C-G position go first round. A third interior lineman in the first round? Come the frick on.

I agree with that and don't see Ducasse being taken before the second round, but since PFW has him rated 24th and I like what I read about him, I have to take him in the first round for the purposes of this draft/evaluation process.

In reality, I don't think he'll make it to our pick in the second round, but I think it would be a reach to take him in the first.
 
Veldheer's tall, but light. He'd do great pulling as a Guard with quicker feet than most big-body guards.
 
I want Marshall Newhouse..............
 
SDogo;3328228 said:
I want Marshall Newhouse..............

The write-up on Newhouse is scary. PFW says his natural ability will intrigue on paper, but he "plays too passively, lacks functional strength, cannot sink his hips or generate any power, and will have to fit in a zone-blocking scheme to have a chance. Will be overdrafted on measurables."

Just couldn't include him based on that.
 
gimmesix;3328233 said:
The write-up on Newhouse is scary. PFW says his natural ability will intrigue on paper, but he "plays too passively, lacks functional strength, cannot sink his hips or generate any power, and will have to fit in a zone-blocking scheme to have a chance. Will be overdrafted on measurables."

Just couldn't include him based on that.

lmao, the guys has one of the nastiest mean steaks in this years draft. His team mates say he has no idea what a whistle is.

He can play any position along the OL and did so at the East/West game where his "lack of strength" produced a OL leading 4 pancake blocks (1 at each OG and OT position)

He runs a sub 5.0 40 and was one of the strongest players in the weight room this past season.

I think you need to toss your PFW mag in the garbage

In all seriousness, for the past 15+ years you never would of caught me not having a copy of PFW in my house come draft time. The last 5 years it has turned into total garbage
 
SDogo;3328250 said:
I think you need to toss your PFW mag in the garbage

That's possible. Some of their profiles have been right on in the past, so I want to see how these turn out.

One of the points of this exercise for me is to strictly go by PFW to see if I should stop shelling out $20 a year for its guide.
 
gimmesix;3328432 said:
That's possible. Some of their profiles have been right on in the past, so I want to see how these turn out.

One of the points of this exercise for me is to strictly go by PFW to see if I should stop shelling out $20 a year for its guide.

That's my other issue with it, quality has gone down but price has gone up. I remember when I could purchase it at a newstand for $4.95
 

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