Glen Coffee Retires...????

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BraveHeartFan;3497174 said:
Yeah. It's way less 'selfish' to just stay around doing something you don't want to be doing anymore just so some fans or a company, who will dump you in a heart beat and won't honor their commitment to you either if it suits them, aren't feeling cheated out of a draft pick.

Get out of town.

That whole argument, and not just in this particular case but all cases in sports, is nonsense.

These players don't owe it to the fans, the owners of the teams, or anyone to just stay and play there, or play for their contract when they've out played the terms of them, or to even stay in the game when they don't want to anymore.

You think if the 49ers found some running backs this year that they liked better, and believed would help them more, that they'd say "Gosh darn it. We like these other two backs better but, well, we better only keep one so we can keep that Coffee kid. I mean afterall we did make a commitment to him and all so we'd better honor it."

They'd cut his but and unemployee him quicker than you can blink an eye.

They guy doesn't want to play anymore, has something he'd rather be doing, and thats what he should be doing. Playing for the sake of playing cause someone drafted you is cheating yourself, them, and the game of football.

Very well said.
 

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Hostile;3497236 said:
Actually if I remember right a whole group of fishermen actually dropped their nets to go into the Priesthood when they were invited to. So you're wrong.

had any of them committed to a team by allowing themselves to be drafted?
 

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AbeBeta;3497161 said:
No, the stupid call was a guy giving up nearly a million dollars. You have all your life to be a minister or whatever, yet you put yourself in a position for a certain career where a team made an investment. You can give the money back but you cannot give the team the pick they invested back. You go into the draft and you need to commit. Now he's screwed the 49ers out of a high pick.

You can call that his "calling" but others might call it shortsighted or even selfish.
:lmao2:wow. he's leaving to minister to others.
 

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AbeBeta;3497623 said:
had any of them committed to a team by allowing themselves to be drafted?

Who cares?

It's his life, he can do what he wants.

You're drafted to play a game, not serve a life sentence.

If the guy doesn't want to play, he shouldn't feel obligated to. It's not like the 9ers are being forced to pay all that money anyway.

Friggin 3rd rounder anyway. It's not like he was some huge investment and decided to quit because he wanted to flip burgers.
 

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Hostile;3497084 said:
We both know a book that predicts that reaction. It is not surprising, Pat Tillman was mocked for retiring to be a soldier.

Money drives so many, that they cannot grasp when someone else is not driven by it. Same book discusses that too.

I like that book.... a lot! ;)
 

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Bob Sacamano;3497624 said:
:lmao2:wow. he's leaving to minister to others.

and he's taken something from a team that paid him well last year that they can't get back. The used a pretty high pick on the kid and he is walking away. If someone has faith in you and invests in you then you do owe them something
 

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Hoofbite;3497662 said:
Who cares?

It's his life, he can do what he wants.

You're drafted to play a game, not serve a life sentence.

If the guy doesn't want to play, he shouldn't feel obligated to. It's not like the 9ers are being forced to pay all that money anyway.

Friggin 3rd rounder anyway. It's not like he was some huge investment and decided to quit because he wanted to flip burgers.

If you are committed enough to enter the draft you should honor that commitment. A 3rd is nothing to sneeze at.
 

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AbeBeta;3497940 said:
and he's taken something from a team that paid him well last year that they can't get back. The used a pretty high pick on the kid and he is walking away. If someone has faith in you and invests in you then you do owe them something


I bet Singeltary is totally pissed

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If teams can kick a player under contract off the team then players can quit those same teams whenever they damn well please without being selfish.
 

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urface59;3498040 said:
If teams can kick a player under contract off the team then players can quit those same teams whenever they damn well please without being selfish.
thats not what everybody said about ricky williams.
 

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rkell87;3498085 said:
thats not what everybody said about ricky williams.

True, its just my opinion though. I didn't have a problem with what williams did.
 

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urface59;3498040 said:
If teams can kick a player under contract off the team then players can quit those same teams whenever they damn well please without being selfish.

actually a team who did that would have no claim on the signing bonus. so there is a difference
 

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AbeBeta;3498107 said:
actually a team who did that would have no claim on the signing bonus. so there is a difference
thats not what he is talking about
 

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AbeBeta;3497161 said:
You can call that his "calling" but others might call it shortsighted or even selfish.

I love it. When free agents leave their team for a better offer or hold out for a better contract, they're selfish. When they pass up money that they could have had, they're selfish. They can't win.
 

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Hostile;3497236 said:
Actually if I remember right a whole group of fishermen actually dropped their nets to go into the Priesthood when they were invited to. So you're wrong.

Excellent point.


AbeBeta;3497940 said:
and he's taken something from a team that paid him well last year that they can't get back. The used a pretty high pick on the kid and he is walking away. If someone has faith in you and invests in you then you do owe them something

Remember that the next time a team cuts a guy they made a 'committment to. I want you to be in here ripping the ownership for being selfish.


AbeBeta;3498107 said:
actually a team who did that would have no claim on the signing bonus. so there is a difference

So the real truth here is it's completely about the money he walked away from and nothing really to do with how selfish he was to the team.

You just can't understand how a person isn't driven by money, as you clearly are, and would willingly walk away from it.
 

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jimnabby;3498170 said:
I love it. When free agents leave their team for a better offer or hold out for a better contract, they're selfish. When they pass up money that they could have had, they're selfish. They can't win.

no, he is selfish for committing to the draft, knowing that that commitment was a 4 year one at minimum. you go into the draft and you accept that a team owns your rights for a certain period. seems selfish to me to tell a team you are ready to accept that, then not.
 
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