Good contracts

[Nightman]

Dallas has 2 bad contracts, Romo and Carr. The rest are good

Romo signed a 4yr/68m extension. That is less than market value for a Top 10 QB. If he's still getting it done, they have him for 2 more years at 20m a piece. I don't see the problem.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Dallas has 2 bad contracts, Romo and Carr. The rest are good

Can we wait until Romo's contract starts first, Nostradamus? He's yet to play a game under it.

 

[Idgit]

I think it goes without saying that Mincey received too much in guaranteed money. Reminds me a lot of what they did with Livings and Bernadeau.

You didn't like those OG contracts? Others were signing for $10m per that same offseason in Tampa and NO. Ours were a relative value, even though too many freaked out at the time.

 

[TrailBlazer]

The Ware contract was one of the best superstar contracts ever given out. It worked out perfect for both sides. The Austin contract was fine until the cap penalty, sometimes you have to pay to keep your young stars. Austin didn't fulfill his end of the deal, but that was because of injuries. Players get hurt in the NFL.

This may all be true.

Doesn't change the fact that ware and Austin's contracts crippled the teams cap last season. That's why they had to go.

 

[Galian Beast]

You didn't like those OG contracts? Others were signing for $10m per that same offseason in Tampa and NO. Ours were a relative value, even though too many freaked out at the time.

Mincey signed a two-year contract worth $4.5 million, $2 million guaranteed. That is a pretty reasonable deal.

Relative value? No. Not at all. The guy isn't a legit starter, and we paid him money as if he were. I'd be surprised if he made the team had they not already paid him as if he did.

Not reasonable at all, especially not when you realize that no one else would have paid him that.

 

[Galian Beast]

Carr's contract was a bad one. Was he the best corner on the market the year we signed him. I think most people would say that he was. That being said they made him the 2nd highest paid cornerback in the NFL. He wasn't even in the top 10. Surprised his contract hasn't been addressed yet.

Franchising Spencer the 2nd year was not a sound move. There were players who were younger and better than Spencer who would have cost less than him in that free agency period. They didn't read things well at all. Combined with the cap penalties we received (that they didn't fight), this certainly hurt us pretty badly.

Romo's contract is a really good contract, anyone who says otherwise isn't familiar with the NFL or the QB position. It was a very team friendly contract and well under the going rate for top QBs.

The Sean Lee contract was another really good contract. Also very team friendly.

I wonder if what we signed Scandrick for was above the going rate. Never really understood the love this guy gets from the front office.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Relative value? No. Not at all. The guy isn't a legit starter, and we paid him money as if he were. I'd be surprised if he made the team had they not already paid him as if he did.

Not reasonable at all, especially not when you realize that no one else would have paid him that.

I think it was a case of Marinelli wanting the guy for the WDE spot and willing to pay more to secure his rights.

Was it a foolish signing... I dunno... We will find out though!

But keep in mind the circumstances of the decision by the Cowboys, they had just let go of an established stat at weakside DE and all we had left in the hopper was Wilson and maybe Rayford...

Mincey has played over 2,000 snaps in the NFL and he's been "OK" on average, with him generating about 1 sack per 100 snaps in his two better seasons.

And this was before the draft so no counting on Lawrence as of that point.

I think Mincey can supply some needed snaps at the WDE spot, and won't embarrass himself when it comes to rushing the passer.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I wonder if what we signed Scandrick for was above the going rate. Never really understood the love this guy gets from the front office.

I think at the time Scandrick's signing was probably a bit on the high side... at the time.

Now that he's the starting CB, and arguably the best CB on the team... The contract doesn't look so bad at all now.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think at the time Scandrick's signing was probably a bit on the high side... at the time.

Now that he's the starting CB, and arguably the best CB on the team... The contract doesn't look so bad at all now.

Scandrick's contract doesn't look better to me, merely the signing of carr and the drafting of claiborne simply looks worse.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Ratliff Austin spencer Romo's is questionable. Carr. The constant restructuring is questionable. Franchising spencer was a bad move any way you slice it. I know hindsight is 20/20 but can't turn a blind eye to the crap contracts Jerry has given in the not so distant past.

Ware and Austin alone crippled our cap. Lets not pretend Jerry knows what's he's doing.

You're using hindsight.

Ratliff and Spencer don't get injured or Miles stays healthy and nobody talks about their contracts.

And i'm happy to pay Romo given his exceptional level of play.

The fact that those are the contracts you bring up speaks volumes.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Scandrick's contract doesn't look better to me, merely the signing of carr and the drafting of claiborne simply looks worse.

It's one of those things that looking at from one perspective or another could yield a different answer.

Seeing what corners are being paid... It's a difficult market to judge.

 

[Nightman]

This may all be true.

Doesn't change the fact that ware and Austin's contracts crippled the teams cap last season. That's why they had to go.

I don't think they were crippled at all. They chose to franchise Spencer at 10.6m and that ate up almost half of the cap space.

You are confusing Ware's and Austin's cap number with their contract. We could have kept both if they were producing. They were cut because they weren't producing, not because of their contracts.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Carr's contract was a bad one. Was he the best corner on the market the year we signed him. I think most people would say that he was. That being said they made him the 2nd highest paid cornerback in the NFL. He wasn't even in the top 10. Surprised his contract hasn't been addressed yet.

Franchising Spencer the 2nd year was not a sound move. There were players who were younger and better than Spencer who would have cost less than him in that free agency period. They didn't read things well at all. Combined with the cap penalties we received (that they didn't fight), this certainly hurt us pretty badly.

Romo's contract is a really good contract, anyone who says otherwise isn't familiar with the NFL or the QB position. It was a very team friendly contract and well under the going rate for top QBs.

The Sean Lee contract was another really good contract. Also very team friendly.

I wonder if what we signed Scandrick for was above the going rate. Never really understood the love this guy gets from the front office.

Have you not seen Scandrick play?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

And LOL at the Mincey hate. Mincey can earn a max of 4.5M over the next two seasons. This is the deal we are crying about?

I'm cool with it.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I don't think they were crippled at all. They chose to franchise Spencer at 10.6m and that ate up almost half of the cap space.

You are confusing Ware's and Austin's cap number with their contract. We could have kept both if they were producing. They were cut because they weren't producing, not because of their contracts.

Maybe Austin.

If ware wouldve agreed to paycut, he'd still be here.

Dallas couldn't afford to do much with those 2 contracts on the books. That's why they had to go. To free up 10M+.

 

[TrailBlazer]

You're using hindsight.

Ratliff and Spencer don't get injured or Miles stays healthy and nobody talks about their contracts.

And i'm happy to pay Romo given his exceptional level of play.

The fact that those are the contracts you bring up speaks volumes.

Bad contracts. Anyway you try to spin it.

Dallas didnt get what they paid for in Ratliff spencer and miles.

Hindsight or not. There's a reason Dallas couldn't afford to do much in FA.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Bad contracts. Anyway you try to spin it.

Dallas didnt get what they paid for in Ratliff spencer and miles.

Hindsight or not. There's a reason Dallas couldn't afford to do much in FA.

What do you mean hindsight or no? That's ********. Sorry I don't expect my front office to be able to see the future.

 

[xwalker]

And LOL at the Mincey hate. Mincey can earn a max of 4.5M over the next two seasons. This is the deal we are crying about?

I'm cool with it.

I doubt if the people crying have even watched him play.

 

[dogunwo]

What was the last bad contract this team gave out?

Carr was market value and a good signing at the time. So was Austin. Even Lee's contract was structured intelligently with playing time incentives.

I hated that we payed age in Hatch....oh wait. No we didn't.

You're spouting a tired narrative. I can't be upset with what the organization has done on the cap front the last 4 years or so....

Now next year when we have some money to burn...

This started when getting rid of guys like Andre Gurode

 

[TrailBlazer]

What do you mean hindsight or no? That's ********. Sorry I don't expect my front office to be able to see the future.

Those extensions were bad. Point blank. He wasted a lot of money on guys who didnt contribute. That, in my mind, is a bad contract. When giving extensions, trying to predict the future plays a part. He guessed dead wrong and put the team in a bad spot cap wise. Jerry couldve gave incentive laced contracts to keep from being robbed. Instead he handed out a lot of cash for little to no return on those investments.

The fact you are trying to justify these egregious errors in judgment 'speaks volumes'.