News: Goodell is now worried about the catch rule

[percyhoward]

We already went over this percy and you're wrong. Nobody did anything retroactively to cover anything. We established that Blandino was consistent throughout and we used videos and articles YOU provided to show it. Going to the ground applied because "those 3 things" didn't happen, most notably the football move, which when compared to other demonstrative ball reaches (which again, YOU showed examples of), you refused to answer direct questioning about it 4 times. Nails in the coffin if you're actually attempting to debate. Yet you continue spewing this incorrect "conspiracy" angle to rile up the emotional people who can't let it go and would rather play victim than actually read the rules.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you really believe that you've asked me something 4 times that I haven't answered.

So ask me a fifth time. I'll hold any questions for you until after I answer yours.

 

[NotForLong]

Funny how ESPN fails to mention that the NFL refused to air a Veteran's Association commercial because it was 'too political.'

But this is typical Goodell. He's only concerned because Rooney is upset over it and that's a key owner for him.

Enjoy the next 4 years with him.

I know I won't.




YR

I won't because I won't be watching

 

[percyhoward]

Moving the ball from two hands to one is a football move.

Absolutely. And that's not even mentioning Dez's third step.

Why else did the catch committee add "taking additional steps," and "tucking the ball" as examples of football moves in 2016? They were assigned the task of clarifying completion of the catch process, and they approached that task by looking at plays, obviously including Dez's catch, and asking themselves, "What, if anything, does he do with it after the catch?"

 

[khiladi]

His team the Patriots benefitted by over-turning the clear catch by the Steelers tight end, getting HF advantage, so he’s got to pretend that he’s concerned about the rule..

Even if we neglect the fact he caught it and turned his body to cross the plane, the ball moving is totally irrelevant because his hands were underneath the ball the whole time.

Convenient, isn’t it... ball touches the ground for a Pats WR after it moves in his hands, but they have no problems calling it a catch, you know, because his hands were underneath the ball

 

[khiladi]

The rules ‘change’ after the Patriots conveniently benefit from them...

 

[CPanther95]

The Maras and Rooneys are in laws.

So, not surprised at all.

If my bookie convinced me to buy an NFL franchise for $2500, then gave me a tip that won $50,000 that I parlayed into $350,000 ($5.7 million today) ... I'd also name a son after him and marry off one of my daughters to his family.

 

[MarcusRock]

He grabs the ball with two hands, brings it down to get shoulder pad/chest and is cradling it with both arms, THEN switches the ball to the other side of his body and only his left hand. Moving the ball from two hands to one is a football move.

I’ll add that your post seems emotional.

You don't "switch" a ball when you have two hands on it. You take one hand off of it which is what happened. Neither was it tucked to the body but left exposed away from the body. Dez should have kept two on to prevent the ball from coming loose. Where is "moving the ball from two hands to one" a football move in the rules?

my question always has been, whatever the rule application or interpretation is, was the replay clear and irrefutable? we are still debating this years later. if not, the play should stand and not be overturned. if it was ruled fumble, i'm fine with the call standing.

Almost every Cowboys fan would be fine with the call standing if it favors what they want to happen. I wanted it to be a catch too. It was a gutsy call. But once I saw the replays I knew it would be overturned because of the going to the ground rule. The ball popping out did him in. I don't fault Dez for intending to reach the ball over the goal line because he was just doing what comes natural. It was an awkward fall and the DB Shields did just enough to make the extra effort necessary which is what caused the ball to come loose.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Here’s anecdotal evidence of a big worry for “Good ol boy” and the NFL owners- I have three adult sons aged 34, 32 and 29. They all grew up Cowboys and NFL fans. My sons were 12, 10, and 7 the last time the ‘Boys played in the SB.

Despite loving Cowboys games as they grew up, today, all three emphatically say they find the Cowboys and the NFL “boring”. My youngest told me recently he hasn’t watched a Cowboys game since 2007. All 3 of my sons say that Jerry’s dominance of their once favorite team just wore them down. They just think Jerry is a cancer on the team. They also say almost all of their friends are no longer Cowboys fans.

While their old man still watches the Cowboys and always will, it saddens me that my sons want nothing to do with the DC. Goodell and the owners should be mindful of how many young people are leaving the NFL. The future of the NFL may depend on these arrogant men running it to do some soul searching.

I have no idea why younger fans would ever chose the Cowboys as their favorite team other than it was their parents' team.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

And oh yea. We were robbed and I'll never stop saying it.

 

[MarcusRock]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you really believe that you've asked me something 4 times that I haven't answered.

So ask me a fifth time. I'll hold any questions for you until after I answer yours.

People can see you avoiding it HERE. That ship has sailed. You had more than enough chances to answer then and you didn't because it would have killed your entire premise. No need to rehash the same argument with you when you've proved you're willing to flat out ignore counterpoints during a debate. You can keep pushing the same false narrative and the emotional will swallow it without investigation, just like the media works. I like chiming in when blatant falsehoods are spread so that might happen here and there, lol.

 

[ESisback]

I have no idea why younger fans would ever chose the Cowboys as their favorite team other than it was their parents' team.

Perhaps they like Witten or Dak or Sean Lee or some other player. Maybe they like the helmet or uniform. Maybe friends influence. As always, there are many potential reasons why someone would like the Cowboys.

With all the rule changes, politics, greed, lawsuits, bad behavior, questionable officiating, etc., it's a wonder kids like football period!

 

[MarcusRock]

His team the Patriots benefitted by over-turning the clear catch by the Steelers tight end, getting HF advantage, so he’s got to pretend that he’s concerned about the rule..

Even if we neglect the fact he caught it and turned his body to cross the plane, the ball moving is totally irrelevant because his hands were underneath the ball the whole time.

Convenient, isn’t it... ball touches the ground for a Pats WR after it moves in his hands, but they have no problems calling it a catch, you know, because his hands were underneath the ball

Not sure what you're trying to show with that GIF but the ball touching the ground doesn't matter unless the ball rolls without the receiver controlling it or the ball comes loose completely.

 

[ESisback]

People can see you avoiding it HERE. That ship has sailed. You had more than enough chances to answer then and you didn't because it would have killed your entire premise. No need to rehash the same argument with you. You can keep pushing the same false narrative and the emotional will swallow it without investigation, just like the media works. I like chiming in when blatant falsehoods are spread so that might happen here and there, lol.

Howdy Marcus! Gonna do the weekly "just for fun" thing here?

 

[diefree666]

The whole 'football move' BS needs to be banned forever. A catch is a catch if the player has control of the ball. AND THAT IS ALL.

 

[ESisback]

Not sure what you're trying to show with that GIF but the ball touching the ground doesn't matter unless the ball rolls without the receiver controlling it or the ball comes loose completely.

FOR the Steelers and AGAINST the Cowboys? That's a familiar tune.

 

[MarcusRock]

Howdy Marcus! Gonna do the weekly "just for fun" thing here?

Hey ES! It took me a bit to figure out who you were exactly, lol. I'll see how busy things are once the season starts. I almost didn't do it this season but I'll see then.

 

[CPanther95]

The whole 'football move' BS needs to be banned forever. A catch is a catch if the player has control of the ball. AND THAT IS ALL.

Blame the fantasy football nerds.

The complicated catch rules were created to generate more scoring. Any reasonable catch definition will lead to more drive-killing turnovers, and the NFL can't have that.

 

[foofighters]

https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1148503619595

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22257695/concerned-roger-goodell-wants-nfl-catch-rule-changed

So glad he got his extension, this guy is always at the forefront and never reactionary when it is too late. Im sure he wouldnt over correct a situation either....

Lol

"Fans want catches" Lol, Don't fool yourselves, Goodell doesn't care what the fans want. He's only interested in self-preservation.

 

[HanD]

Almost every Cowboys fan would be fine with the call standing if it favors what they want to happen. I wanted it to be a catch too. It was a gutsy call. But once I saw the replays I knew it would be overturned because of the going to the ground rule. The ball popping out did him in. I don't fault Dez for intending to reach the ball over the goal line because he was just doing what comes natural. It was an awkward fall and the DB Shields did just enough to make the extra effort necessary which is what caused the ball to come loose.

i would have been fine if the call went against dallas because the ruling on the field was no catch and it was not overturned. i didn't think it was clear enough on review to overturn a call in either direction because of needing irrefutable evidence and the possibility of reaching for the goalline being a football move.

 

[MarcusRock]

i would have been fine if the call went against dallas because the ruling on the field was no catch and it was not overturned. i didn't think it was clear enough on review to overturn a call in either direction because of needing irrefutable evidence and the possibility of reaching for the goalline being a football move.

What was irrefutable was that the going to the ground rule applied which is why it was changed. When the on field official applies the wrong rule, replay should apply the correct one. The ball hit the ground and the ball came loose which replay clearly showed. Dez intended to reach, he did not execute which is what Pereira, Steratore the official, and Blandino all said after the game that very day.