Google unveiling its own operating system

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6518911.html

Google Inc. is working on a new operating system for inexpensive computers in a daring attempt to wrest away Microsoft Corp.’s long-running control over people’s computing experience.

The new operating system, announced late Tuesday night on Google’s Web site, will be based on the company’s nine-month-old Web browser, Chrome. Google intends to rely on help from the community of open-source programmers to develop the Chrome operating system, which is expected to begin running computers in the second half of 2010.

The Mountain View, Calif.-based company disclosed its plans for the operating system shortly after an online technology news service, Ars Technica, and The New York Times telegraphed the news on their Web sites.

Google is designing the operating system primarily for “netbooks,” a lower-cost, less powerful breed of laptop computers that is becoming increasingly popular among budget-conscious consumers primarily interested in surfing the Web.

The operating system represents Google’s boldest challenge yet to its biggest nemesis — Microsoft.

A high-stakes duel between the two technology powerhouses has been steadily escalating in recent years as Google’s dominance of the Internet’s lucrative search market has given it the means to threaten Microsoft in ways that few other companies can.

Google already has rankled Microsoft by luring away some of its top employees and developing an online suite of computer programs that provide an alternative to Microsoft’s top-selling word processing, spreadsheet and calendar applications.

Meanwhile, Microsoft has been trying to thwart Google by investing billions of dollars to improve its own Internet search and advertising systems — to little avail so far. In the past month or so, though, Microsoft has been winning positive reviews and picking up more users with the latest upgrade to its search engine, now called “Bing.” Microsoft is hailing the makeover with a $100 million marketing campaign.

Now Google is aiming for Microsoft’s financial jugular with Chrome its operating system.

Microsoft has drawn much of its power — and profits — from the Windows operating system that has steered most personal computers for the past two decades.

Google’s chief executive, Eric Schmidt, and its co-founders, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, have made little attempt to conceal their disdain for Windows in recent years.

Schmidt maintains Microsoft sometimes unfairly rigs its operating system to limit consumer choices — something that Microsoft has consistently denied doing. Google fears Microsoft could limit access to its search engine and other products if Windows is set up to favor Microsoft products in the default settings.

Page and Brin have frequently derided Windows as a clunky operating system susceptible to computer viruses and other security problems.

Google made a veiled reference to Windows’ perceived shortcomings in its blog posting.

“We hear a lot from our users and their message is clear — computers need to get better,” wrote Sundar Pichai, Google’s vice president of product management and Linus Upson, Google’s engineering director.

A Microsoft spokesman didn’t immediately respond to an e-mail request for comment sent early this morning.

Schmidt and Brin are expected to discuss Google’s new operating system later this week when they appear at a media conference hosted by Allen & Co. at the Sun Valley resort in Idaho.

Despite its own power and prominence, Google won’t have an easy time changing the status quo that has governed the personal computing industry for so long.

As an example of how difficult it is to topple a long-established market leader, Google estimates about 30 million people are now using its Chrome browser — a fraction of those that rely on Microsoft’s market-leading Internet Explorer. And there have been various attempts to develop open-source software to undermine Microsoft with relatively little effect.

The Chrome operating system will run in a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel — computer coding that has been the foundation for the open-source software movement for nearly two decades.

Google has already introduced an operating system for mobile devices, called Android, that vies against various other systems, including ones made by Microsoft and Apple Inc.

The Android system worked well enough to entice some computer makers to begin developing netbooks that will eventually run on it.

Google, though, apparently believes a Chrome-based system will be better suited for running applications in netbooks.

“We believe choice will drive innovation for the benefit of everyone, including Google,” wrote Pichai and Upson.
 

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We are all very familiar with some of the shortcomings of Windows.

However, I think a case could be made that the main reason why Windows and Internet Explorer are so vunerable is because they are so prevelant and in the hands of alot more unsophisticated users who don't have firewalls or the protection that businesses offer.

I tried Bing a few weeks ago to test out the Map feature and it still doesn't has as much data as Google.

Also, with the big image in the background, Microsoft still hasn't learned that one of the great things about Google is how simplistic the web page looks.
 

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The more competition the better. I do prefer Chrome as my primary browser due to its speed.
 

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What has Google done of significant impact outside of creating a search engine really?

I think Google is simply funded by people who are anti-Microsoft and want a new player in the arena.

Microsoft has had its faults in the past, but it has learned from them, and still produces quality software and development products.

The fact is, since Microsoft products are so prevalent and widely used, they are also going to be more open to attack and have more bugs, like all software has, found in them. Far from its buggy and distant past, Microsoft's QA department has been significantly enhanced and upgraded, such that I have heard that they have two QA people per developer.
 

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SultanOfSix;2835359 said:
What has Google done of significant impact outside of creating a search engine really?

I think Google is simply funded by people who are anti-Microsoft and want a new player in the arena.

Microsoft has had its faults in the past, but it has learned from them, and still produces quality software and development products.

The fact is, since Microsoft products are so prevalent and widely used, they are also going to be more open to attack and have more bugs, like all software has, found in them. Far from its buggy and distant past, Microsoft's QA department has been significantly enhanced and upgraded, such that I have heard that they have two QA people per developer.

Steve Ballmer, is that you :laugh2: ?

Nah, I agree with alot of what you said.
 

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SultanOfSix;2835359 said:
What has Google done of significant impact outside of creating a search engine really?

I think Google is simply funded by people who are anti-Microsoft and want a new player in the arena.

Microsoft has had its faults in the past, but it has learned from them, and still produces quality software and development products.

The fact is, since Microsoft products are so prevalent and widely used, they are also going to be more open to attack and have more bugs, like all software has, found in them. Far from its buggy and distant past, Microsoft's QA department has been significantly enhanced and upgraded, such that I have heard that they have two QA people per developer.

:hammer:
 

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SultanOfSix;2835359 said:
What has Google done of significant impact outside of creating a search engine really?

I think Google is simply funded by people who are anti-Microsoft and want a new player in the arena.

Microsoft has had its faults in the past, but it has learned from them, and still produces quality software and development products.

The fact is, since Microsoft products are so prevalent and widely used, they are also going to be more open to attack and have more bugs, like all software has, found in them. Far from its buggy and distant past, Microsoft's QA department has been significantly enhanced and upgraded, such that I have heard that they have two QA people per developer.

Google Earth is probably one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
 

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SultanOfSix;2835359 said:
What has Google done of significant impact outside of creating a search engine really?
They do offer many more services other than just a search engine (Google maps, Google Earth, Gmail, news, shopping, etc). Nothing else has had an impact like their search engine, but that's not really a knock, considering their search engine has had the biggest impact on the internet of anything since, well, Al Gore.
 

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theogt;2835524 said:
They do offer many more services other than just a search engine (Google maps, Google Earth, Gmail, news, shopping, etc). Nothing else has had an impact like their search engine, but that's not really a knock, considering their search engine has had the biggest impact on the internet of anything since, well, Al Gore.

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Google to enter operating system wars with Chrome OS
Wed Jul 8, 2009 12:51PM EDT

In what is certain to be the biggest tech story of the summer, Google is finally making official what has been rumored for years: It will create its own computer operating system, Chrome OS, slated for release in late 2010.

While the news is stunning in its potential impact on the industry, it hardly arrives without warning. Google already makes its own cell phone OS, the fledgling Android, which continues to slowly gain devotees. And well before the company unleashed its own web browser, Chrome, many had long since assumed that Google had been preparing to release an operating system. When the Chrome browser was released instead, many observers actually saw it as a bit of a letdown in the news department.

Now it's clear what Google has been up to all along: Chrome is simply the centerpiece of a larger table setting, a full-blown operating system that will run without Windows or the MacOS beneath it.

Google is keeping many details close to the vest -- and, with at least a year before the OS comes out, it really has no choice since the OS has miles to go before it's ready -- but the company has made a few details public. Chrome OS will be open source, like Linux operating systems, upon which Chrome will be based; it will be designed to be "fast and lightweight, to start up and get you onto the web in a few seconds;" and it will be designed with security in mind (though, seriously, everybody says that). The OS will run on both ARM and x86 CPUs, the latter being the most common PC chip architecture on the planet, used on virtually every PC produced today.

Despite the hints about Chrome OS, many, many questions remain. Obviously Chrome is designed with the web in mind, and it will undoubtedly be closely tied into Google's extensive suite of services. But what will its offline components look like, if any? With Linux as a base, it will obviously be able to run Linux-based applications, though it won't be compatible with Windows... or will it? Emulator systems exist that could let Chrome run Windows apps, but they're complex and at odds with the goal of creating a streamlined, super-simple operating system. I am immediately curious as to how big of a hard drive a Chrome OS laptop would have, if it will have one at all.

Another big question involves the hardware this operating system will run on. Google obviously has inexpensive, low-power netbooks in mind for Chrome OS, but will tinkerers be able to install it on computers they already own? Driver issues become a major obstacle at that point, as a "simple" OS can't possibly account for the thousands of hardware variations present in modern PCs (printing alone is going to be a headache as it is). My hunch is that a downloadable version will eventually be available, but that it won't be supported by Google at all should you decide to install it on a non-approved PC.

That leads to the question of whether Google is ignoring a key part of the market. Netbooks are great little toys, but they're hardly the tools of choice for those looking to get real work done. By embracing the web and largely ignoring offline applications, Chrome-based netbooks will by necessity remain tools for the low end of the market, playthings for when you're not really being productive. Like the Linux-based netbooks before them, they just won't do enough for many users.

And that's an ominous issue hanging out there for Chrome OS's future. Linux-based netbooks haven't been a rousing success, as Windows fought back with a vengeance after they hit the market, offering buyers a more familiar working environment and compatibility with their other computers while keeping prices down. Consumers have so far warmed up to the idea of having more features on their netbooks, not fewer, relegating Linux on netbooks to the background. Will a spiffy, Googleized version of Linux change consumer opinion? Maybe, but probably not dramatically.

Contrary to public opinion, everything that Google touches does not turn to gold, and to be frank, Google has a serious uphill battle ahead for its OS ambitions. I'm cautiously optimistic that Google will put something brilliant together here, and can't wait to get my eyes on the software, but the challenges it faces are extreme. Put together something too unique and different and consumers may be put off and confused. Or you could make an OS that clings closely to the Windows interface, but what would be the point of that?

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/146051
 

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theogt;2835341 said:
The more competition the better. I do prefer Chrome as my primary browser due to its speed.

I prefure Safari. its 3.2x faster then chrome :p:;)

SultanOfSix;2835359 said:
What has Google done of significant impact outside of creating a search engine really?

I think Google is simply funded by people who are anti-Microsoft and want a new player in the arena.

Microsoft has had its faults in the past, but it has learned from them, and still produces quality software and development products.

The fact is, since Microsoft products are so prevalent and widely used, they are also going to be more open to attack and have more bugs, like all software has, found in them. Far from its buggy and distant past, Microsoft's QA department has been significantly enhanced and upgraded, such that I have heard that they have two QA people per developer.

lots of things, they have already bested MSFT in many situations.

Vista and XP arent buggy? I dont care if they had a 5:1 ratio. The base of the OS is crap and has been crap. As soon as they switch to unix or find a way to create something more sescure then that they are fubar'd
 

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The issue will be compatability so its most likely a fail.
 

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the kid 05;2836532 said:
I prefure Safari. its 3.2x faster then chrome :p:;)
I know you were kidding, but Chrome is certainly faster.

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http://cultofmac.com/google-chrome-looking-way-faster-than-safari/2673

http://www.manu-j.com/blog/safari-vs-firefox-vs-chrome-on-mac-javascript-performance/355/
 

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the kid 05;2836532 said:
I prefure Safari. its 3.2x faster then chrome :p:;)

lots of things, they have already bested MSFT in many situations.

Vista and XP arent buggy? I dont care if they had a 5:1 ratio. The base of the OS is crap and has been crap. As soon as they switch to unix or find a way to create something more sescure then that they are fubar'd

XP is a very good OS. It was almost six years before MS released another OS because it was pretty darn good. Vista has had issues with application and device compatibility, as well as performance. Certainly not a very good release compared to XP. It's why they are releasing Windows 7 much sooner than expected. Personally, I've had no problems with Vista except for the performance issues, because I tend to be responsible with my machine. MS will be releasing Windows 7 near the end of this year, and from all reports, it is a significant upgrade over Vista and is getting really good reviews.

I installed Chrome on my work machine a few weeks ago. A couple weeks later, I got a message from the Network department saying it has to be uninstalled because of a serious security vulnerability. Chrome is barely used compared to other browsers out there like IE or Firefox because it is relatively new. It is also based on open source software (Apple's Webkit) and isn't solely a Google creation.

Google has created a great search engine, and Google Maps is "pretty neat." But, other than that, I see nothing special from it as a company.
 
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