Goose's comments on team penalties for problem players

[Reality]

I don't think it solves the problem as what he should do is fine the team a substantial amount of money. This will stop teams from drafting these types of players. If theses teams were slapped with a million dollar fine, they would draft differently.

I like Goose usually but this is a completely stupid idea.

It's easy to think, "well, Jones had character issues coming into the draft" but what about players who have no problems? They get rich in the NFL, bad influences target them and they end up in trouble. Why should their team get penalized because some player who was a poster child for character all of a sudden takes a bad turn on the path of life?

A lot of minority players come from bad neighborhoods and a rule like that would greatly affect their chances to play in the NFL. There are plenty of stories of players who grew up in trouble with the law because it was the only thing they knew. Once they became adults, they matured and many become great people (not just players) getting involved with charity groups and some even forming their own.

I have no problem punnishing the players who forget they're role models and are lucky to be where they are. When those players are suspended, the teams are already paying a heavy price .. adding financial penalties on top of that means the team will be punnished twice while the player will only be punnished once.


-Reality

 

[5Stars]

I like Goose usually but this is a completely stupid idea.

It's easy to think, "well, Jones had character issues coming into the draft" but what about players who have no problems? They get rich in the NFL, bad influences target them and they end up in trouble. Why should their team get penalized because some player who was a poster child for character all of a sudden takes a bad turn on the path of life?

A lot of minority players come from bad neighborhoods and a rule like that would greatly affect their chances to play in the NFL. There are plenty of stories of players who grew up in trouble with the law because it was the only thing they knew. Once they became adults, they matured and many become great people (not just players) getting involved with charity groups and some even forming their own.

I have no problem punnishing the players who forget they're role models and are lucky to be where they are. When those players are suspended, the teams are already paying a heavy price .. adding financial penalties on top of that means the team will be punnished twice while the player will only be punnished once.


-Reality

I agree with you! That is just a silly notion. How is a team supposed to predict the future of a player's behavior?

Bad Goose...his goose needs cooked!

 

[theogt]

I like this policy. Ultimately it's the team that pays the players. It's the team that should be responsible for their actions. Under the current policy, you've got strange tug-of-wars going on like the current conflict over Tank Johnson, with Lovie Smith lobbying for him to not get suspended (at least to the extent that Pacman was). But if Johnson isn't suspended for at least a year, Goodell will look like a supreme hypocrite.

In the end, the teams pay for the players. The teams benefit from their good play and are hurt from their suspensions. Let the teams deal with them. And if the teams don't do a sufficient job, fine the team. The league is just an almagation of owners. Let the owners deal with their players and the NFL deal with the owners.

 

[mmillman]

target with a rifle not a shotgun. the offenders should be punished harshly and the rest left alone.

 

[theogt]

target with a rifle not a shotgun. the offenders should be punished harshly and the rest left alone.

Or you could be preventative, rather than reactive, by giving the teams incentive to control their players.

 

[Reality]

Or you could be preventative, rather than reactive, by giving the teams incentive to control their players.

That's all well and good but what about players who have shown no bad tendencies during their youth and college careers?

People can change at any age so just because a psych test and background check says they're of high character does not mean they'll be that way throughout their NFL career.

The same goes for players who had a troubled youth but get good counselling that's available in the NFL that is not really available to high school and many lower end university programs and end up being one of the leading role models for the NFL.

-Reality

 

[theogt]

That's all well and good but what about players who have shown no bad tendencies during their youth and college careers?

People can change at any age so just because a psych test and background check says they're of high character does not mean they'll be that way throughout their NFL career.

The same goes for players who had a troubled youth but get good counselling that's available in the NFL that is not really available to high school and many lower end university programs and end up being one of the leading role models for the NFL.

-Reality

I think it's a stupid policy to punish anyone, the team or the person, for a first time offense. It doesn't look like that will be the case under the new system (J. Porter probably won't get punished), so that doesn't really effect whether you punish the team or the person in my opinion.