Gosselin's top 100

[InmanRoshi]

Not Dareus?
I think he'll be strong.

I don't mind Dareus in the teens, but if I'm taking a DL with a the 2nd pick in the draft I want someone who makes some plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Dareus rarely did that.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't mind Dareus in the teens, but if I'm taking a DL with a the 2nd pick in the draft I want someone who makes some plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Dareus rarely did that.

I think the kid is going to be better than you think. He isn't the disruptor that Suh is, but the guy is quick and he is a wall that is damn hard to get past. (He will be better than Gerald McCoy) He is quick and can shed blocks and get to his man. He is easily better than Marcus Spears. There are only two player players I would take before Dareus. Peterson and Tyron Smith. The only reason I take Smith first is because it's a more valuable position and I think Smith is going to end up being one of the better tackles in the league.

If a 4-3 team takes Dareus, I think he ends up being like a Marcus Stroud. A run stopping machine who can push the pocket backwards especially in a 1-on-1 situation that happen for 4-3 DTs. If he goes to a 3-4 team, it will be hell to run at him. It will be even worse if he plays DE that team has a decent OLB hanging off his hip.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

When Casserly was asked about Fairley's stock falling, he said he hadn't talked to one team that had Fairley ahead of Dareus, ever.

Funny, Parcells has Solder as his #1 OT and now Goose hears he's the #2 OT. Still can't figure out why so many people think he's garbage.

Seems to me that the two QBs are such a wild card this year. Both have big upside but also big question marks. I just can't see both of them falling that far, though.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Stroud might be a very good comparison...

From his 2001 Draft bio...

. Stroud flashes exciting tools but doesn't make as many plays as expected from a player with his ability. He would be drafted high more on potential than overall production.

That's kind of how I feel about Dareus. Stroud has only averaged 3 sacks a year for his career. He was pretty much a stout run plugger who rarely made plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

Again, not that I necessarily hate Dareus, but just that I want more big play ability out of the #2 pick. I still can't get over the fact that Fairely literally made more than double the plays behind the line of scrimmage that Dareus did, when they played in the same conference against largely the same compeition.


If you're picking Dereus at #13 (where Stroud was drafted), I would be more at ease with him.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Funny, Parcells has Solder as his #1 OT and now Goose hears he's the #2 OT. Still can't figure out why so many people think he's garbage.

Based upon his time here, I have a hard time placing much stock in Parcells' evaluation of offensive lineman (though he did a great job in terms of evaluating talent at other positions). In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that his evaluation may lend credence to the prevailing view that Solder is garbage.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah, IR, Dareus is a guy I was hoping we'd take early in the process before his stock shot up... It seems like he got graded up for his combine workouts, because IMO he doesn't play as athletic as he timed. He does seem like more of a run player, and I'm not sure he's a top-3 kind of guy.

But again, he's supposedly a great character guy, and I suspect Fairley has more negative things going on than we know about. And that does matter a lot when you're paying a young guy a fortune.

Also, are we sure Dareus wasn't just doing what was asked of him in Saban's scheme?

 

[gimmesix]

Me too. I can't go another season w/ Colombo on the right side. Smith is 20 years old. If he pans out. We may have a 15 year starter.

Even if we draft Smith, you might have to go another season w/Colombo on the right side. Food for thought.

 

[burmafrd]

Even a raw rookie would be better than colombo

 

[AmishCowboy]

James Carpenter at 41 if they draft Watt in the first.

This is my backup plan as well

 

[28 Joker]

Cowboys get a steal at 9.

Tyron Smith

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Pity the Carolina Panthers.

They won just twice in 16 games last season to earn the first overall choice of the 2011 NFL draft.

But there isn’t a Sam Bradford waiting there for them. There isn’t a Peyton Manning or an Orlando Pace. Even the Ndamukong Suhs and Matt Ryans are nowhere to be found at the top of this draft board.

The Panthers have the first overall selection in a draft that has no consensus first overall choice. Some teams have Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green at the top of the board. Others have LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson. Still others have Texas A&M linebacker Von Miller.

Unfortunately for the Panthers, they have a pressing need at quarterback. When Andrew Luck decided to return to Stanford for his senior season in 2011, Carolina lost out on a potential franchise quarterback of its own.

If the Panthers are to address the need at quarterback with either Cam Newton or Blaine Gabbert in this draft, they will have to skip over more talented players at other positions. But if you don’t have a quarterback in the NFL, you don’t have a chance.

The Panthers are one of eight teams that will be staring at the quarterback board in the first round. So expect a run of passers early in this draft, starting with the Panthers.

But pencil in Green at No. 1 on the annual Top 100 of The Dallas Morning News. The Top 100 is compiled based on conversations with NFL general managers, personnel directors, pro and college coaches and scouts. This is not a mock draft. Teams will skip around the board on draft day to make selections that fit their needs.



No., player Pos. School
1, A.J. Green WR Georgia
2, Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
3, Patrick Peterson CB LSU
4, Marcell Dareus DT Alabama
5, Julio Jones WR Alabama
6, Cam Newton QB Auburn
7, Tyron Smith OT Southern California
8, Nick Fairley DT Auburn
9, Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
10, Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri
11, J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin
12, Cam Jordan DE California
13, Nate Solder OT Colorado
14, Aldon Smith DE Missouri
15, Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
16, Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College
17, Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
18, Mark Ingram RB Alabama
19, Corey Liuget DT Illinois
20, Mike Pouncey C Florida
21, Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
22, Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
23, Jake Locker QB Washington
24, Phil Taylor DT Baylor
25, Jimmy Smith CB Colorado
26, Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
27, Christian Ponder QB Florida State
28, Danny Watkins G Baylor
29, Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
30, Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State
31, Aaron Williams CB Texas
32, Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
33, Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple
34, Andy Dalton QB TCU
35, Marcus Cannon G TCU
36, Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech
37, Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
38, Akeem Ayers S UCLA
39, Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
40, Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
41, James Carpenter OT Alabama
42, Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
43, Greg Little WR North Carolina
44, Brooks Reed DE Arizona
45, Kenrick Ellis DT Hampton
46, Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
47, Rahim Moore S UCLA
48, Torrey Smith WR Maryland
49, Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson
50, Orlando Franklin OT Miami
51, Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois
52, Titus Young WR Boise State
53, Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin
54, Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
55, Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
56, Will Rackley G Lehigh
57, Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
58, Allen Bailey DE Miami
59, Terrell McClain DT South Florida
60, Martez Wilson OLB Illinois
61, Shareece Wright CB Southern California
62, Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
63, Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
64, Brandon Harris CB Miami
65, Bruce Carter OLB North Carolina
66, Rodney Hudson C Florida State
67, Dontay Moch DE Nevada
68, Shane Vereen RB California
69, Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
70, Jah Reid OT Central Florida
71, Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
72, Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson
73, Steve Wisniewski C Penn State
74, Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
75, K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State
76, John Moffitt G Georgia
77, Tandon Doss WR Indiana
78, Drake Nevis DT LSU
79, Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
80, Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State
81, Ben Ijalana G Villanova
82, Jabaal Sheard OLB Pittsburgh
83, Jalil Brown CB Colorado
84, DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma
85, Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech
86, Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy
87, Johnny Patrick CB Louisville
88, Jurrell Casey DT Southern California
89, Clint Boling G Georgia
90, Bilal Powell RB Louisville
91, Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
92, Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple
93, Brandon Burton CB Utah
94, Sam Acho DE Texas
95, James Brewer OT Indiana
96, Rob Housler TE Florida Atlantic
97, Quinton Carter S Oklahoma
98, Jerrell Powe NY Mississippi
99, Colin McCarthy OLB Miami
100, David Arkin OT Missouri State

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41, James Carpenter OT Alabama
what was the seahawks thinking?

 

[dbair1967]

Even if we draft Smith, you might have to go another season w/Colombo on the right side. Food for thought.

Food for thought, no it aint gonna happen.

Colombo will be released.

 

[StarHead69]

Goose did a pretty darn good job again. Here's whats left to start round 2.


22, Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
26, Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
31, Aaron Williams CB Texas


34, Andy Dalton QB TCU
35, Marcus Cannon G TCU
36, Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech
38, Akeem Ayers S UCLA
39, Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
40, Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
42, Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
43, Greg Little WR North Carolina
44, Brooks Reed DE Arizona
45, Kenrick Ellis DT Hampton
46, Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
47, Rahim Moore S UCLA
48, Torrey Smith WR Maryland
49, Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson
50, Orlando Franklin OT Miami
51, Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois
52, Titus Young WR Boise State
53, Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin
54, Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
55, Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
56, Will Rackley G Lehigh
57, Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
58, Allen Bailey DE Miami
59, Terrell McClain DT South Florida
60, Martez Wilson OLB Illinois
61, Shareece Wright CB Southern California
62, Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
63, Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
64, Brandon Harris CB Miami
65, Bruce Carter OLB North Carolina
66, Rodney Hudson C Florida State
67, Dontay Moch DE Nevada
68, Shane Vereen RB California
69, Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
70, Jah Reid OT Central Florida
71, Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
72, Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson
73, Steve Wisniewski C Penn State
74, Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
75, K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State
76, John Moffitt G Georgia
77, Tandon Doss WR Indiana
78, Drake Nevis DT LSU
79, Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
80, Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State
81, Ben Ijalana G Villanova
82, Jabaal Sheard OLB Pittsburgh
83, Jalil Brown CB Colorado
84, DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma
85, Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech
86, Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy
87, Johnny Patrick CB Louisville
88, Jurrell Casey DT Southern California
89, Clint Boling G Georgia
90, Bilal Powell RB Louisville
91, Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
92, Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple
93, Brandon Burton CB Utah
94, Sam Acho DE Texas
95, James Brewer OT Indiana
96, Rob Housler TE Florida Atlantic
97, Quinton Carter S Oklahoma
98, Jerrell Powe NY Mississippi
99, Colin McCarthy OLB Miami
100, David Arkin OT Missouri State

 

[jblaze2004]

i think we might trade down at 40.

 

[Gaede]

Prediction: trade down, grab Ellis

 

[big dog cowboy]

Prediction: trade down, grab Ellis

I could see that.

 

[BIGDen]

Bumping this thread for easy reference during the draft.