Gotta Replace Church's Production

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So was listening to local sports radio as I usually do despite the garbage politics they constantly and passive aggressively interject (Which inevitably makes me change stations,) and they mentioned how the games we either lost or gave up the most points in were those Church missed due to injury. Mention of giving up 30+ points without him around (I dunno not a stat nerd.)

Now Church typically leads the team in tackles along with Lee and he's had a few games with picks which has been pleasant but dude plays hard, gets hurt every year and with that misses games, but in my mind he was really a #2. I want a serious upgrade and we possibly can do just that now, it's exciting to anticipate what gets unwrapped here.

Now I want to believe inserting Heath will at the very least be a push be we don't know if he can take that many reps and not get hurt, it can be a violent position at times. Funny thing is he's the one that typically injures other players and not himself lol.

Some say he might be an upgrade, he has more speed and might even be better at covering a receiver, others are skeptical and rightfully so.

In any event I always want insurance. Safety is arguably a Top 3 need along with corner and defensive end (And of course RT, 1-Tech, LB, WR, KR, etc.) Ok I'm getting excited about X-Mas here..

Not a big college football guy Zone so I gotta ask, who could potentially be available and worthy of our 1st or second pick at the safety position? Are there any rangy ballhawk hitters with size? Any sleepers? How long shall we ignore safety?
 
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CowboyFan74 said:
So was listening to local sports radio as I usually do despite the garbage politics they constantly and passive aggressively interject (Which inevitably makes me change stations,) and they mentioned how the games we either lost or gave up the most points in were those Church missed due to injury. Mention of giving up 30+ points without him around (I dunno not a stat nerd.)

Now Church typically leads the team in tackles along with Lee and he's had a few games with picks which has been pleasant but dude plays hard, gets hurt every year and with that misses games, but in my mind he was really a #2. I want a serious upgrade and we possibly can do just that now, it's exciting to anticipate what gets unwrapped here.

Now I want to believe inserting Heath will at the very least be a push be we don't know if he can take that many reps and not get hurt, it can be a violent position at times. Funny thing is he's the one that typically injures other players and not himself lol.

Some say he might be an upgrade, he has more speed and might even be better at covering a receiver, others are skeptical and rightfully so.

In any event I always want insurance. Safety is arguably a Top 3 need along with corner and defensive end (And of course RT, 1-Tech, LB, WR, KR, etc.) Ok I'm getting excited about X-Mas here..

Not a big college football guy Zone so I gotta ask, who could potentially be available and worthy of our 1st or second pick at the safety position? Are there any rangy ballhawk hitters with size? Any sleepers? How long shall we ignore safety?
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Good luck. He was a top 3 defender for us. It's gonna be a while. Watch this team draft peppers who isn't even a good tackler.
 
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pacboyX said:
I'm sorry but happy to see Church gone. Let's get some new blood with some speed and young explosion. Plenty of safeties in this draft doubt we will miss tbh. Underrated maybe, overrated also possible.
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He was like a micro LB safety. Great tackler as long as he wasn't slipping on water, ice, or greased owl dookie. There were a few that could shatter his ankles but he was a B talent for us.
 
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Church is solid but he wasn't the difference between winning and losing.

We can either upgrade and get an impact player or just get another guy that isn't the difference between winning and losing like Barry.
 
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StarBoyz83 said:
Wilcox isnt half the player church is. No rookie is going to come in here and match his play.
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That's your opinion. I think there are plenty of safeties that can exceed what Church did. Obviously will mclay does also. Guess you think too highly of our average former safetywho never showed up to a big game in his life
 
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stilltheguru88 said:
That's your opinion. I think there are plenty of safeties that can exceed what Church did. Obviously will mclay does also. Guess you think too highly of our average former safetywho never showed up to a big game in his life
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I'm not saying there's not I'm saying it won't happen this year. So ss and cb is downgraded for the season. But Dallas is obviously not in the win now mode most of us think we should be. I just hope Dallas really start's hitting on defensive players because they haven't been doing very good the last 6 years or so.
 
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I'm not saying there's not I'm saying it won't happen this year. So ss and cb is downgraded for the season. But Dallas is obviously not in the win now mode most of us think we should be. I just hope Dallas really start's hitting on defensive players because they haven't been doing very good the last 6 years or so.
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I think Rayshawn Jenkins, Nate Gerry, Orion Stewart and Jordan Sterns could come in day 1 and match/pass Church. Cowboy fans think way too highly of him imo
 
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stilltheguru88 said:
I think Rayshawn Jenkins, Nate Gerry, Orion Stewart and Jordan Sterns could come in day 1 and match/pass Church. Cowboy fans think way too highly of him imo
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Low Drafted players usually don't make a big impact their first year. Especially when they are on defense. But we could get lucky. Which is is what Dallas needs a ton of right now. But I'm glad the secondary got flushed don't get me wrong.
 
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StarBoyz83 said:
Not that'll match his play this season.
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Church's 60 tackles and poor coverage is not anything to write home about.

Heath can match it. He is a physical tackler with better range.

Frankly, worrying about a S tackle numbers misses the point. Hitchens/Durant platoon did better and Jaylon can also match that is he is recovered.

Church is the most overrated Cowboy I can ever recall. Eatman saying he should go to the pro bowl is a joke.
 
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Brown was better than Church last year and he was a 6th round pick playing strongside corner. The draft is loaded with DBs. The notion that a rookie cannot beat 60 tackles is ridiculous.
 
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People are panicking because we let a bunch of fringe players walk in free agency all at one time. Guys, when was the last time we let FA defenders walk and then regretted it?
George Selvie? Bruce Carter? Henry Melton? Cmon.

We complain around here during the season that these types of guys (Wilcox, Carr, etc) aren't good enough to be long term starters and then moan and groan when we don't overpay to retain them?

I really think there's a lot over reacting happening to this. Both Church and Mo missed a bunch of time due to injury anyway. Carr's time is up, and Wilcox was a project player who peaked as a rotational hitter during the 2016 season. These are hardly key pieces to our future's success.

At some point you either decide that you trust what the FO is doing as far as roster construction, or you don't.

At this point, I do.
 
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Proximo said:
People are panicking because we let a bunch of fringe players walk in free agency all at one time. Guys, when was the last time we let FA defenders walk and then regretted it?
George Selvie? Bruce Carter? Henry Melton? Cmon.

We complain around here during the season that these types of guys (Wilcox, Carr, etc) aren't good enough to be long term starters and then moan and groan when we don't overpay to retain them?

I really think there's a lot over reacting happening to this. Both Church and Mo missed a bunch of time due to injury anyway. Carr's time is up, and Wilcox was a project player who peaked as a rotational hitter during the 2016 season. These are hardly key pieces to our future's success.

At some point you either decide that you trust what the FO is doing as far as roster construction, or you don't.

At this point, I do.
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Church has turned into prime Darren Woodson this offseason lol. How soon we forget that in our 3 biggest games the past 5 years he did absolutely nothing.........except get burned by golden Tate
 
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