Grade the Joey Porter Jr. trade

[DarkVader33]

We give up draft resources for a good player that won't help a defense that can't even make opposing QB's get nervous in the pocket.

C

I don’t think you expected this team to compete this year. I know I didn’t. Adding a major piece to what hopefully happens next year is the way to go if you don’t have any better options. Besides, do you really believe that even if we got Reggie White in his prime that it would make a difference? We have a coach and many players that are developing and that’s going to take time. Next year we hopefully add more pieces and then we may have something, if we can resign him. If not, we at least should get a third rounder back.

 

[KingCorcoran]

"He’s arguably a top 10 CB in the league"



We still don't know how he will fit with this Cowboys Team. Keep in mind he had TJ Watt on his Steeler team, and this is something Dallas doesn't have.
Not saying this isn't an upgrade, but I don't think it's the same kind of upgrade that some people think it will be.

Added: If Dallas were to get some good pass rush going (By either someone already on the team or bringing in an FA and or Trade) this trade will look pretty damn good.

“arguably”? Meaning someone may have an argument that he isn’t?

 

[DarkVader33]

Wow didn’t realize someone would take it so personally. Seems juvenile.
The CB position is highly unlikely to win us a single game esp with the rules as they are. Even Deion can’t cover an average WR for six seconds. Other than the injuries, I don’t see how a CB improves the D unless he’s going to pull a season like Bland had or Diggs prime. Those seasons by those CBs came due to the pressure coming from up front and Micah. If Porter starts picking off a bunch of passes then I’ll change my mind but hard to see how Porter moves the needle.

I asked this of another poster. What did you really expect us to win this year? I doubt you expected much. This could end up being a brilliant move for the future.

 

[rambo2]

We give up draft resources for a good player that won't help a defense that can't even make opposing QB's get nervous in the pocket.

C

He certainly will help the defense.

 

[rambo2]

F. Doubtful he alters a single game from L to W.
Still miss the playoffs

Hard to miss the playoffs when you win the division.

 

[rambo2]

A+ easily and irrefutably.

Even if you try to refute it, I won’t listen to you. Because you can’t refute it.

You are correct. There is no way this is below an A.

 

[Bobhaze]

I have a C. The trade price is reasonable if Joey Porter is healthy, performs at a high level, and is signed long term. That’s a lot of ifs.

Secondly, although I recognize Porter’s talent, I don’t think he gives what we are desperate for now - any kind of a pass rush.

Side note: How important is having a pass rush that produces turnovers? In the last decade the Cowboys are 0-10 (including Sunday’s loss to the ravens) when they have zero sacks and zero TOs. If we don’t start getting some pass rush, having a stud Corner isn’t going to help enough.

 

[rambo2]

I have a C. The trade price is reasonable if Joey Porter is healthy, performs at a high level, and is signed long term. That’s a lot of ifs.

Secondly, although I recognize Porter’s talent, I don’t think he gives what we are desperate for now - any kind of a pass rush.

Side note : How important is having a pass rush that produces turnovers? In the last decade the Cowboys are 0-10 (including Sunday’s loss to the ravens) when they have zero sacks and zero TOs. If we don’t start getting some pass rush, having a stud Corner isn’t going to help enough.

There is no way it is below an A. He is one of the best corners in the league. If you let me pick any corner in the league for our team it would be Joey Porter Jr. They stole him. As for the pass rush. It will magically appear in the Houston game. No Lamar Jackson in this game.

 

[Bigrandrn]

If he signs long term, and he plays the way he has…..it will be an A, a high tier corner for a second, 2 years from now….young and in his prime.

 

[Tabascocat]

Too early to grade but if he isn’t a 14-game rental…..he is a big piece of the defensive puzzle for the future from a solid trade.

 

[Vintage]

I have a C. The trade price is reasonable if Joey Porter is healthy, performs at a high level, and is signed long term. That’s a lot of ifs.

Secondly, although I recognize Porter’s talent, I don’t think he gives what we are desperate for now - any kind of a pass rush.

Side note: How important is having a pass rush that produces turnovers? In the last decade the Cowboys are 0-10 (including Sunday’s loss to the ravens) when they have zero sacks and zero TOs. If we don’t start getting some pass rush, having a stud Corner isn’t going to help enough.

The only way this is a C is if it’s a one year rental and we miss the playoffs. If we make the playoffs and it’s a one year gamble, the compensatory pick we get will mostly offset the draft capital and was worth the gamble.

If he’s kept, he gives us a legit #1 CB with low draft capital.

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

I like the trade, but I would of LOVED it, if it had come with an extension, if he is just a rental its an F

 

[plasticman]

D

Great, Jerry is "all in". If the Cowboys don't win it all, there is little help on the way via the next couple drafts. The Cowboys have severely handicapped their future prospects

Porter will help this year, assuming he is healthy. However, he is either a 1-year rental or insures Pickens departure.

He could be the 2nd coming of Dieon Sanders and it would make little difference without a measurable pass rush. The difference between a successful or unsuccessful DB is a fraction of a second.

Once again, splash moves replace meaningful team building.

 

[ghst187]

Hard to miss the playoffs when you win the division.

We will find out on the 26th.

 

[ghst187]

I asked this of another poster. What did you really expect us to win this year? I doubt you expected much. This could end up being a brilliant move for the future.

Sure if he stays and doesn’t have back trouble but also cost us a massive contract and two draft picks one being a second rounder. If we resign him and that causes us to lose Pickens or Lamb I would say it’s a mistake. If he’s a one year rental, that’s a massive failure to give up those picks. See more ways for this to go sideways than succeed. I also just don’t see the value in CBs these days with the rules what they are. So we have Revel on rookie contract and Bland on a large second deal. Next year we would will either have to have two CBs on very large deals or part with one.
Now if Porter comes in and starts picking off a bunch of passes I will change my opinion and be happy about it but it ain’t 1995 and there’s no such thing as a lock down CB.