Graziano: Kiper's 'Grade A' draft: NFC East

[PJTHEDOORS]

Not at all a fan.

Especially not considering his own big board.
He has us reaching 5 spots to draft Williams.
That makes literally zero sense when he has an OT and a S rated higher between 18 and Williams.

His rationale again is soft. At DT we have Jay Ratliff, Jason Hatcher, Sean Lissemore and Tyrone Crawford. That's a legit NFL rotation.

What exactly do we have at RT or S other than hopes and dreams?

A lot of folks like Warford. But good grief he tested poorly. He is severely overweight. He has no explosion at all. He jumped 22" for a vertical. My 10 year old daughter can jump 30" and she is 4 foot tall. He ran a horrendous 5.56. I mean this dude has no chance to run 100 yards. The game would be over.

And in most prospect rankings I see Warford mid 50s. That's another reach.

Then you finish with Kruger who CBS and ESPN both rank as a 6th round value....

Good grief. "A" draft my butt.

Crawford is a DE. Hatcher is moving from DE to DT. Ratliff is injury prone.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I would be thrilled doing back flips in the front yard. Warford didn't test well but you gotta look at the tape. The kid can flat out play. I don't think he is as big a scheme problem as people are making him out to be. He doesn't fit zbs as well as Cooper, but he can still play it IMO. I think Kruger is a second round guy.

 

[Fletch]

Those first two picks would be walk off home runs.

Yes they would be. I'd be more than content.

 

[visionary]

And we'd be scrambling for a CB.

yup, we could have stayed put and drafted brockers or decastro in rd 1 and then "scrambled" all the way into rd 2 to pick a CB

if only we knew how to set priorities and evaluate talent

 

[DFWJC]

I know who this guy is, but seriously, has he ever been right about who the Cowboys would draft?

He was not predicting who the Cowboys will draft.

 

[DFWJC]

That 3rd pick is a huge head-scratcher.
The 3rd round should be loaded and he gives us Kruger that early.

 

[hookemhorns72]

And we'd be scrambling for a CB.

Would've loved to pick Baron and then Hayward in the second round last year.

 

[Future]

I know who this guy is, but seriously, has he ever been right about who the Cowboys would draft?

Other than Bobby Carpenter, has anybody?

 

[TheRomoSexual]

yup, we could have stayed put and drafted brockers or decastro in rd 1 and then "scrambled" all the way into rd 2 to pick a CB

if only we knew how to set priorities and evaluate talent

This type of "20/20" hindsight post is worthless and ridiculous. It's also premised on absurdly flawed logic.

 

[visionary]

This type of "20/20" hindsight post is worthless and ridiculous. It's also premised on absurdly flawed logic.

that there were other teams that picked CBs in rd 2 that played at least as well if not better than Mo and if we had the ability to actually evaluate talent we could have done the same and therefore not need to be "scrambling" for CB (at the same time have a starting DT or OG) is flawed logic?

only in the bizarro universe you live in where wasting resources is OK



BTW, your post was "lacking in substance" as usual

 

[speedkilz88]

They would never have traded up for Barron. The Cowboys would have taken Zeitler over DeCastro and probably didn't want either that high.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

that there were other teams that picked CBs in rd 2 that played at least as well if not better than Mo and if we had the ability to actually evaluate talent we could have done the same and therefore not need to be "scrambling" for CB (at the same time have a starting DT or OG) is flawed logic?

only in the bizarro universe you live in where wasting resources is OK



BTW, your post was "lacking in substance" as usual

If you can't grasp the concept that our trade affected the draft in completely unpredictable ways, thus rendering any "coulda, woulda" type post moot...well, then I can't help you.

 

[visionary]

If you can't grasp the concept that our trade affected the draft in completely unpredictable ways, thus rendering any "coulda, woulda" type post moot...well, then I can't help you.

by this logic, one cant ever learn from a mistake one made because "something might have happened differently had i dont it the other way" and everything would be "altered in completely unpredictable ways"

so people who want to learn from history are complete morons and we should get rid of that subject in school

my post wasnt directed at you anyway

why dont you stay out of it and let the grown ups talk?

 

[TheRomoSexual]

by this logic, one cant ever learn from a mistake one made because "something might have happened differently had i dont it the other way" and everything would be "altered in completely unpredictable ways"

so people who want to learn from history are complete morons and we should get rid of that subject in school

my post wasnt directed at you anyway

why dont you stay out of it and let the grown ups talk?

Actually, that's not at all what it means. It means you can't say for certain that X would have happened because Y modified the given course. But, alas, you're right -- explaining basic logical principles to you is obviously a futile endeavor.

 

[visionary]

Actually, that's not at all what it means. It means you can't say for certain that X would have happened because Y modified the given course. But, alas, you're right -- explaining basic logical principles to you is obviously a futile endeavor.

OK, lets play along with this stupidity for as second

you are saying that if we had not picked Mo at #6, there is no way to know that Casey Hayward (who was picked #62 by GB) would still be there by the time dallas made its second pick at #45, 16-17 picks BEFORE GBs pick?

of course there is no way to know for sure, but LOGIC would tell us otherwise

 

[TheRomoSexual]

OK, lets play along with this stupidity for as second

you are saying that if we had not picked Mo at #6, there is no way to know that Casey Hayward (who was picked #62 by GB) would still be there by the time dallas made its second pick at #45, 16-17 picks BEFORE GBs pick?

of course there is no way to know for sure, but LOGIC would tell us otherwise

I'm saying I have no idea what would have happened, so your whining is unfounded an pointless. Your complaints are also premised on the ridiculous notion that the Cowboys should have known who would be available in the second, which is truly inane.

 

[ufcrules1]

IMO our Dline and just as bad as our Oline. They both need to be majorly addressed.

 

[visionary]

IMO our Dline and just as bad as our Oline. They both need to be majorly addressed.

that is the sad part

we could have got brockers or decastro had we just stood pat in rd 1

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

that is the sad part

we could have got brockers or decastro had we just stood pat in rd 1

No telling how the draft would have fallen. Don't know how you can be sold on Decastro or Brockers yet.

 

[visionary]

No telling how the draft would have fallen. Don't know how you can be sold on Decastro or Brockers yet.

give me brockers/decastro + hayward any day over Mo