Great team building Revisited

[Big_D]

There’s a big difference between assembling a roster and building a team. A collection of talented players is not necessarily also a team.

One of the reasons we’ve had this 26 year drought in the playoffs has been the lack of understanding that talent alone is NEVER enough. Here’s a simple process of what it takes to build a winner:

1. Having a General Manager and front office with a clear plan of what they are building and who is best suited to coach and lead the team.
2. Allowing the GM to hire the right head coach who is empowered to hire a great staff aligned to the organizational plan to win.
3. Being able to scout and draft talent that fits your plan.
4. Being able to coach and develop that talent into cohesive TEAM.

That final step of coaching and developing talent includes shaping those players to play their roles within the team. This is where talented coaches make a difference. All 53 players must work together as pieces of a whole in specific roles.

I’m often amazed at things I read on here like “Let’s get this guy- he’s talented” without any thought of what kind of team we’re assembling and whether that player would fit here. What we need is a real TEAM, not just a collection of stars.

It’s a constant year round endeavor, some just think it happens on draft day!

 

[kskboys]

This off-season was more about money than about football ...... and as long as the current Jones's are in charge that is how it will always be.

Not money, self aggrandizement, ego trips, extreme feeling of self importance, stuff like that. It stopped being about money a long time ago.

 

[kskboys]

1. No. Great teams pay blindside tackle, edge rusher, cover corner, top WR, and QB. They don't give big contracts to RBs, LBs, and guards.
2. Defense. Offense has too many question marks and the offensive line isn't anything close to what it was a few years ago. At least the defense has play makers.
3. Yes. They pay some positions you shouldn't pay, have too much faith in their own draft picks, and always seem reactive rather than proactive.

It's no accident that this front office has won next to nothing over the last 25+ years. Same guys doing the same things, expecting different results.

1. Or great players in general. Cincy gave NT Reader a big contract. Rams gave interior rusher huge contract.

All too often we give contracts to the wrong players due to very poor player evaluations.

 

[john van brocklin]

And then moments later it happened.

I find no joy in being right and hope and pray Tyrone has a fast recovery.
He is a Warrior but has not played a full season since 2015 and relying on him was/is not a smart business plan.

 

[john van brocklin]

Prophetic.

He has not played a full season since 2015, this should not come as a surprise...
Still , sorry to see it happen.
Hope he has a speedy recovery.
Wish him nothing but the best.

 

[fivetwos]

We may very well have seen the last of Tyron Smith.

Yet another Hall of Famer who didn't get a ring here.

How many is that now Jerry?

Coaching matters. The dude in charge doesn't agree.

Edit.....forget RING.....change that to 'didn't even sniff an NFCCG.'

 

[tm1119]

We may very well have seen the last of Tyron Smith.

Yet another Hall of Famer who didn't get a ring here.

How many is that now Jerry?

Coaching matters. The dude in charge doesn't agree.

Edit.....forget RING.....change that to 'didn't even sniff an NFCCG.'

Has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with the “dude in charge”

 

[fivetwos]

Has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with the “dude in charge”

Well the "dude in charge" is the guy who hires the coaches, and does so based mostly upon if they are willing to cater to his ego.

Chicken vs egg.

 

[MyFairLady]

Jerry has assembled a lovable gang of well dressed young men and we will support them no matter what!

 

[dsturgeon]

The last 3 SB winners are easy examples of great teams built by young, smart GMs who were aggressive with their use of cap space and had HCs with full locker room authority. It’s not like those teams just got lucky at the craps table.

That is true, but there are far more teams that fail with that same criteria than there are that win it all.

I think there are examples to make whatever case you want with team building. I actually think it comes down to getting lucky with 1 or 2 special players, during the right year, with the right supporting cast and coaches. The special players being far more important than the coaching and g.m. They could make a artificial intelligence program that could gm

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

That is true, but there are far more teams that fail with that same criteria than there are that win it all.

I think there are examples to make whatever case you want with team building. I actually think it comes down to getting lucky with 1 or 2 special players, during the right year, with the right supporting cast and coaches. The special players being far more important than the coaching and g.m. They could make a artificial intelligence program that could gm

I can't even think of the last team to win a superbowl by completely sitting out of free agency. You could make an argument for the Patriots but they had a generational head coach and QB for nearly 20 years.

 

[dsturgeon]

I can't even think of the last team to win a superbowl by completely sitting out of free agency. You could make an argument for the Patriots but they had a generational head coach and QB for nearly 20 years.

When pete carroll came into the league, they had a ton of draft picks for a few years, and hit big. I am not sure what they did in free agency the year they got theirs, but those draft picks and depth were the reason they were the team they were. It would be interesting to see a break down on it. The free agents acquired, and the role they played in the team the year they won a super bowl.

That is why a think almost all super bowls are won because of 1 or 2 special players, at the right time, with the right supporting casts. The right time being the key factor, and it has many contributing factors. Coaches are important, but I doubt bellicheck ever gets back to the super bowl, which kind of eliminates him from how important he was. Even though I could make arguments for him as well.

There are lots of teams with a few special players, coaches, structure, etc who never get a super bowl. That is the way it goes. You might be on good teams, have a chance to make a run, and a catch/no catch decides it. Then it is a failure in the gm/coaches for not have spent enough capital on defense, contracts, etc.