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Greg Ellis named HC Southwest Assemblies of God

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Hardline, Jun 27, 2022.

  1. VaqueroTD

    VaqueroTD Well-Known Member

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    Where did you read this? Never heard it was Gailey.

    Moss falling was the earlier equivalent of Johnny Manziel falling and Jerry needing the $#!& shaken out of him by his own son not to go for the pick. So not surprised if Gailey was involved.
     
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  2. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    It's the consensus opinion of the local DFW sports media that were around back then (Mickey, etc.).
     
  3. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    The EXISTENCE of people within the organization that said Moss would be too much of a headache doesn’t mean that they were responsible for the pick.
    Every organizations have dissenters.

    No, Jerry gets it, because they needed a WR an it only happened because Jerry went with it. He probably thought he could get another Haley, because he kept picking busts like Shante Carber. And even Jim Garrett told them to draft Moss. Jerry over-rules all the time and suddenly he drafts Greg Ellis. Even Zimmerman said he was a game changer and Woodson also thought they were going to draft him. He also stayed with Deion Sanders when he along with others came.

    It’s convenient to blame anybody but Jerry but we know he started his player development program with Hill the year before and the objections to Moss were ‘character’. So that why Jerry went with Ellis.

    Let’s also not pretend like Greg Ellis didn’t have a fragile ego to when he also complained, not just about the shift to 3-4 “setting him up to fail” but when the Cowboys drafted Spencer as well and then he forced a new contract, because he wanted the team to show him “commitment”.
     
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  4. buybuydandavis

    buybuydandavis Well-Known Member

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    Good for Greg!
    Comeback Player of the Year, still coming back!
     
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  5. SinceDayOne

    SinceDayOne Active Member

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    First and foremost congrats to Greg Ellis. A good guy and a good Cowboy for over a decade. He had nothing to do with Randy Moss being passed by the Cowboys. He was not the greatest 1st round pick in team history but he was far from the worst.

    The Cowboys and Jerry Jones were not the only team to pass on Moss. He fell to number 21 in the first round due to his history of issues. Passing on him by the Cowboys was not a mistake but a decision based on facts. The mistake came when Jones let it be known for years how he regretted skipping over Moss. Every time Moss would light up the Cowboys (and he did a few times) the media would say what a mistake Jerry made. And Jerry would not help matters by letting it be known privately and in public he regretted the decision. That was the mistake. He should have said something along the line "We made a choice based on facts and we got a good player. We have no regrets and are not second guessing ourselves now." That would have been the smart move. But he went the other way, let his feeling show and folks rubbed it in.
     

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